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I supported invading Iraq.

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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I believed my President who told me he was sure they were a threat to the U.S. I believed on an issue so important that he had the proof.
I am thoroughly disillusioned.

After 5 years of Bushes promises I have had to take a hard look at the state of our country.
I am appalled at the mess.
I can't find one thing outside of the good tactics used in Afhanistan to say about Bush.
What is even more frightening than the state we are in is the upcoming troubles.
Where are the trillions needed for the drug benefit?
The deficit is out of sight and I fear we may have to start paying it back in just a few years.
Social Security is still not fixed.
I am fearful that the real and needed planning for a wmd or destructive terrorist attack has not been done. And in fact the people put in charge of Fema were political hacks who were incompetent.

I could literally go on and on.
I have been mislead.

 

BBond

Diamond Member
Oct 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: techs
I believed my President who told me he was sure they were a threat to the U.S. I believed on an issue so important that he had the proof.
I am thoroughly disillusioned.

After 5 years of Bushes promises I have had to take a hard look at the state of our country.
I am appalled at the mess.
I can't find one thing outside of the good tactics used in Afhanistan to say about Bush.
What is even more frightening than the state we are in is the upcoming troubles.
Where are the trillions needed for the drug benefit?
The deficit is out of sight and I fear we may have to start paying it back in just a few years.
Social Security is still not fixed.
I am fearful that the real and needed planning for a wmd or destructive terrorist attack has not been done. And in fact the people put in charge of Fema were political hacks who were incompetent.

I could literally go on and on.
I have been mislead.

Originally posted by: Genx87
JacobJ is that you?


Feel free to ignore Genx87 just as he feels free to ignore the facts.
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
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Your first mistake was believing any politician on such important issues without questioning them. Most everyone signed on to this from the Dems to the Press. Few seriously questioned the premise, in spite of the action that was obviously coming.

Looks like The Who was wrong. We did get fooled again.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: techs
I believed my President who told me he was sure they were a threat to the U.S. I believed on an issue so important that he had the proof.
I am thoroughly disillusioned.

After 5 years of Bushes promises I have had to take a hard look at the state of our country.
I am appalled at the mess.
I can't find one thing outside of the good tactics used in Afhanistan to say about Bush.
What is even more frightening than the state we are in is the upcoming troubles.
Where are the trillions needed for the drug benefit?
The deficit is out of sight and I fear we may have to start paying it back in just a few years.
Social Security is still not fixed.
I am fearful that the real and needed planning for a wmd or destructive terrorist attack has not been done. And in fact the people put in charge of Fema were political hacks who were incompetent.

I could literally go on and on.
I have been mislead.

Originally posted by: Genx87
JacobJ is that you?


Feel free to ignore Genx87 just as he feels free to ignore the facts.


lmao the irony
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Your first mistake was believing any politician on such important issues without questioning them. Most everyone signed on to this from the Dems to the Press. Few seriously questioned the premise, in spite of the action that was obviously coming.

Looks like The Who was wrong. We did get fooled again.

Ayup...but it takes real American to admit to having been snookered. The rest are still blindly apologizing and sucking up the propaganda.

Congrats, techs, on realizing the lies.
 

ShaneDOTM

Member
Jul 25, 2005
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"Social Security is still not fixed."

thank you Democrats.

As for Iraq, we got what we went over there to do done. And at this point what's done is done and really, we have nobody but us to blame. We did elect the president remember. Electing someone to office, especially the presidentcy, means that we trust him enought to run our country and make decisions based on the information that he has in defense of the country and hold responsible people like Saddam who promised that he would not have WMD's. Is it Bush's fault if he was told that WMD's existed in Iraq and we invaded because of it?

 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: ShaneDOTM
"Social Security is still not fixed."

thank you Democrats and Republicans.
Fixed

As for Iraq, we got what we went over there to do done.
Uh, I thought the US set out to rid Saddam of WMDs? If we got it done, that means we found the WMDs and destroyed them. Would you mind posting a link to an article that shows that's what happened?

KTHXBYE

Oh, btw, the NEW reason, which is "spreading democracy", also has failed as the new constitution is based on...ayup...you guessed it: the Quran!

And at this point what's done is done and really, we have nobody but us to blame. We did elect the president remember. Electing someone to office, especially the presidentcy, means that we trust him enought to run our country and make decisions based on the information that he has in defense of the country and hold responsible people like Saddam who promised that he would not have WMD's. Is it Bush's fault if he was told that WMD's existed in Iraq and we invaded because of it?
Who's this "we"? I sure as hell didn't elect that miserable P.o.S.

As for the information about WMDs, we all know it was falsified and exaggerated in order to SELL the war. Didn't you do ANY reading on your own at any point in time before, during, or after the war?
 

Pabster

Lifer
Apr 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: conjur
Oh, btw, the NEW reason, which is "spreading democracy", also has failed as the new constitution is based on...ayup...you guessed it: the Quran!

Lies, Lies, and more lies.

The new Iraqi constitution is not based off the Quran. Might there be some similiarities (given that we are talking about a largely Muslim country)? Of course. But spreading FUD like what you posted is ridiculous.

Of course, I'd expect nothing less from you.
 

JacobJ

Banned
Mar 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: conjur
Oh, btw, the NEW reason, which is "spreading democracy", also has failed as the new constitution is based on...ayup...you guessed it: the Quran!

Lies, Lies, and more lies.

The new Iraqi constitution is not based off the Quran. Might there be some similiarities (given that we are talking about a largely Muslim country)? Of course. But spreading FUD like what you posted is ridiculous.

Of course, I'd expect nothing less from you.
I'd suggest you read chapter 1 article 2 of their constitution before you him a liar.
 

Harvey

Administrator<br>Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: techs
I believed my President who told me he was sure they were a threat to the U.S. I believed on an issue so important that he had the proof.
I am thoroughly disillusioned.

After 5 years of Bushes promises I have had to take a hard look at the state of our country.
I am appalled at the mess.
I can't find one thing outside of the good tactics used in Afhanistan to say about Bush.
What is even more frightening than the state we are in is the upcoming troubles.
Where are the trillions needed for the drug benefit?
The deficit is out of sight and I fear we may have to start paying it back in just a few years.
Social Security is still not fixed.
I am fearful that the real and needed planning for a wmd or destructive terrorist attack has not been done. And in fact the people put in charge of Fema were political hacks who were incompetent.

I could literally go on and on.
I have been mislead.
Welcome back to planet Earth. Your friends have missed you. :)

Sorry it took so much sad reality to wake you up. :(

 

DarkKnight69

Golden Member
Jun 15, 2005
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Article (2): 1st - Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation:
(a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.
(b) No law can be passed that contradicts the principles of democracy.
(c) No law can be passed that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms outlined in this constitution.
2nd - This constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the Iraqi people and the full religious rights for all individuals and the freedom of creed and religious practices.

Ill post it for you so you dont even have to work. undisputed rules of islam...wtf!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/24_08_05_constit.pdf
 

cwjerome

Diamond Member
Sep 30, 2004
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People change their mind all the time. It's too bad you bought the anti-war propaganda. Have a nice life.

I supported in before it started, when it started, and still support it today. That doesn't mean I agree with every specific policy and strategy, ie, our exact tactics and plans.
 

LLCOOLJ

Senior member
Oct 26, 2004
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Originally posted by: cwjerome
People change their mind all the time. It's too bad you bought the anti-war propaganda. Have a nice life.

I supported in before it started, when it started, and still support it today. That doesn't mean I agree with every specific policy and strategy, ie, our exact tactics and plans.
That's no surprise, you would have supported Attila the Hun.

 

Proletariat

Diamond Member
Dec 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: The Lord
Originally posted by: cwjerome
People change their mind all the time. It's too bad you bought the anti-war propaganda. Have a nice life.

I supported in before it started, when it started, and still support it today. That doesn't mean I agree with every specific policy and strategy, ie, our exact tactics and plans.
That's no surprise, you would have supported Attila the Hun.
LOL :laugh:
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
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Originally posted by: DarkKnight69
Article (2): 1st - Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation:
(a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.
(b) No law can be passed that contradicts the principles of democracy.
(c) No law can be passed that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms outlined in this constitution.
2nd - This constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the Iraqi people and the full religious rights for all individuals and the freedom of creed and religious practices.

Ill post it for you so you dont even have to work. undisputed rules of islam...wtf!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/24_08_05_constit.pdf

Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: conjur
Oh, btw, the NEW reason, which is "spreading democracy", also has failed as the new constitution is based on...ayup...you guessed it: the Quran!

Lies, Lies, and more lies.

The new Iraqi constitution is not based off the Quran. Might there be some similiarities (given that we are talking about a largely Muslim country)? Of course. But spreading FUD like what you posted is ridiculous.

Of course, I'd expect nothing less from you.

Aww...did wittle Pabster wun away from da ugwee twuth?
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Originally posted by: cwjerome
People change their mind all the time. It's too bad you bought the anti-war propaganda. Have a nice life.

I supported in before it started, when it started, and still support it today. That doesn't mean I agree with every specific policy and strategy, ie, our exact tactics and plans.
So, you support the disarming of Saddam? Well, where are the WMDs? HMMM?
 

rickn

Diamond Member
Oct 15, 1999
7,064
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Originally posted by: techs
I believed my President who told me he was sure they were a threat to the U.S. I believed on an issue so important that he had the proof.
I am thoroughly disillusioned.

After 5 years of Bushes promises I have had to take a hard look at the state of our country.
I am appalled at the mess.
I can't find one thing outside of the good tactics used in Afhanistan to say about Bush.
What is even more frightening than the state we are in is the upcoming troubles.
Where are the trillions needed for the drug benefit?
The deficit is out of sight and I fear we may have to start paying it back in just a few years.
Social Security is still not fixed.
I am fearful that the real and needed planning for a wmd or destructive terrorist attack has not been done. And in fact the people put in charge of Fema were political hacks who were incompetent.

I could literally go on and on.
I have been mislead.


might I make a friendly suggestion?

the next time a Bush family member runs for office, don't fvcking vote for them!
 

BBond

Diamond Member
Oct 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: ShaneDOTM
"Social Security is still not fixed."

thank you Democrats.

As for Iraq, we got what we went over there to do done. And at this point what's done is done and really, we have nobody but us to blame. We did elect the president remember. Electing someone to office, especially the presidentcy, means that we trust him enought to run our country and make decisions based on the information that he has in defense of the country and hold responsible people like Saddam who promised that he would not have WMD's. Is it Bush's fault if he was told that WMD's existed in Iraq and we invaded because of it?

It was Bush's fault that he ignored any intel that didn't agree with his predetermined goal of invading Iraq.

And it was more than just the Democrats who didn't like Bush's plan to kill Social Security.

Social Security Plan's Support Dwindling

Look at the chart. Sixty-two percent disapprove, thirty-four percent approve.

 

ShadesOfGrey

Golden Member
Jun 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: DarkKnight69
Article (2): 1st - Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation:
(a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.
(b) No law can be passed that contradicts the principles of democracy.
(c) No law can be passed that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms outlined in this constitution.
2nd - This constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the Iraqi people and the full religious rights for all individuals and the freedom of creed and religious practices.

Ill post it for you so you dont even have to work. undisputed rules of islam...wtf!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/24_08_05_constit.pdf

Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: conjur
Oh, btw, the NEW reason, which is "spreading democracy", also has failed as the new constitution is based on...ayup...you guessed it: the Quran!

Lies, Lies, and more lies.

The new Iraqi constitution is not based off the Quran. Might there be some similiarities (given that we are talking about a largely Muslim country)? Of course. But spreading FUD like what you posted is ridiculous.

Of course, I'd expect nothing less from you.

Aww...did wittle Pabster wun away from da ugwee twuth?

I doubt it because he is the one embracing it, while you are spinning it and distorting it. The Constitution also states that "No law can be passed that contradicts the principles of democracy." So why aren't you making the claim that Iraq is a Democracy?

That's right, you are a doom and gloomer and only look for things to spin in a negative fashion. It's really sad that you people are so consumed by your hate that you have lost perspective and sense of reality.
 

Stoneburner

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May 29, 2003
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what are the principals of democracy? That's such a loaded yet vague term whearas q'uran law is not.
 

ShadesOfGrey

Golden Member
Jun 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: Stoneburner
what are the principals of democracy? That's such a loaded yet vague term whearas q'uran law is not.

"rules of Islam"
"principles of democracy"

I can see where you get lost... :roll:
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: techs
...I could literally go on and on.
I have been mislead.

:thumbsup: to you Techs. Happy you finally saw through the BS and realized the truth.