I spent a week in jail for finding a lost cellphone...legal recourse? [Thread Fail!]

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CZroe

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:thumbsup:

if i may ask... why the change of heart?

Probably because my thread would've been better as a post made here. :)

Cliffs: Don't trust the ones operating the lost and found to return something you found to the owner (usually due to high value)? Simple! Just leave a description with your contact info. Why no one mentioned this is BEYOND me.
 
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CZroe

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Thanks for adding the original OP, mods, but could you also add the original thread title? No one knows to look for "..." to return.

We're here to serve. -DrPizza
 
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CZroe

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What's that for? It's the perfect response to AV. He uses his suspicion of the L&F operators as suspicious reasoning for leaving the store with it. Someone should have told him that, if that were true, he would have left contact info and a description. It would have been the right call and pointing it out would have called him out for his motives.
 

guyver01

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What's that for?

Since the OP is a thief... he'd never give contact info to a store he no doubt robbed in the past....

altho i'd laugh if he did it... because we'd probably see him on "Worlds Dumbest Criminals"
 

CZroe

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Since the OP is a thief... he'd never give contact info to a store he no doubt robbed in the past....

altho i'd laugh if he did it... because we'd probably see him on "Worlds Dumbest Criminals"

Which is specifically why his refusal to do so would call him out, yet no one asked for him to explain why he didn't do it.
 
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Ichinisan

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I'm guessing the woman phone-owner saw him pocket her phone without checking the contacts or recent numbers, and without asking any of the people around him. She may have even watched him turn it off. If he had any intent to return it, he would have immediately asked people around him and looked for a number in the phone. It would have been clear he was stealing it and she would have been afraid to confront him by herself. She saw him leave his girlfriend and exit the store, so she knew he was waiting outside. She contacted store security. If this store is like the other Walmart stores in GA, there are off-duty officers hired by the store and usually posted somewhere near the exit as a deterrent. They're able to detain shoplifters and radio their on-duty buddies, who respond in minutes. They didn't even need to review a tape. She probably just explained to the officer that she needed him to come with her as she confronted the theif.

By the way, OP:
Those multimeters and graphing calculators you stole in high school...you stole those from ME, asshole! I was working, paying GA taxes and paying for that shit. What would the world be like if everyone was like you and believed that individuals aren't impacted by theft from a business or institution?

As Deeko pointed out in post # 153, the iPhone 3GS was released in mid-2009. OP claims several times that he used to be a theif "years ago." it was most likely less than a year ago when you stole that phone. Stolen from a friend of a friend at a party? You must have been high when you admitted to that. You're an embarrassment to humankind.

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Also, as my brother (CZroe) said: If you really wanted to take responsibility for returning the phone, you would have at least told customer service that you have it. They could make an announcement. You could ask the person claiming the phone to describe it or state the phone number to prove ownership.
 
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Number1

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What's the point of keeping this thread open other then to inflict further ridicule on the OP?
I am starting to feel a little sorry for him. Not only is he permaban and unable to defend himself, more material that can be used by the law against him keeps accumulating in here. Is that what we want?
 

Sukhoi

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What's the point of keeping this thread open other then to inflict further ridicule on the OP?
I am starting to feel a little sorry for him. Not only is he permaban and unable to defend himself, more material that can be used by the law against him keeps accumulating in here. Is that what we want?

Why in the world wouldn't you want that? OP seems like a dipshit.
 

skyking

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My best found phone story: wife and I are in Victoria BC for the first time. We decide to take our first bike taxi ride. I find the phone on the street as we get on board and immediately dial the last call. The person on the other end tells me the owner's name, and our taxi driver knows them! He was another driver.:) Some calls are made and he is waiting for his phone.
 

DrPizza

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What's the point of keeping this thread open other then to inflict further ridicule on the OP?
I am starting to feel a little sorry for him. Not only is he permaban and unable to defend himself, more material that can be used by the law against him keeps accumulating in here. Is that what we want?

Put yourself in the shoes of the friend of a friend whose phone he stole. Put yourself in the shoes of the person who's lost phone he was stealing. Put yourself in the shoes of everyone else he's stolen from. If you can manage to do that, then the answer is, "ummm, uhhh, yeah."

Are you saying that you don't believe people should get the punishment they deserve for ripping off the rest of people in society? Are you saying that you had lawfulness and our justice system? You think that it should be 100% up to the law to catch people, and if people manage to get away with being anti-social, more power to them?

Sometimes, seeing someone ripped on this badly might be all it takes to make someone else think twice about some questionable actions they may be pondering. Another example - see the bucket of water against the door thread. In it, you'll see
<beavis/butthead>
"huh huh huh huh, did you see that guy get pissed? That was cool."
</beavis/butthead>
Followed by that person being ripped on by a lot of others. Yet another person who didn't learn elsewhere in life, but learned here that vandalism isn't a prank.
 
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Number1

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Put yourself in the shoes of the friend of a friend whose phone he stole. Put yourself in the shoes of the person who's lost phone he was stealing. Put yourself in the shoes of everyone else he's stolen from. If you can manage to do that, then the answer is, "ummm, uhhh, yeah."

Are you saying that you don't believe people should get the punishment they deserve for ripping off the rest of people in society? Are you saying that you had lawfulness and our justice system? You think that it should be 100% up to the law to catch people, and if people manage to get away with being anti-social, more power to them?

Sometimes, seeing someone ripped on this badly might be all it takes to make someone else think twice about some questionable actions they may be pondering. Another example - see the bucket of water against the door thread. In it, you'll see
<beavis/butthead>
"huh huh huh huh, did you see that guy get pissed? That was cool."
</beavis/butthead>
Followed by that person being ripped on by a lot of others. Yet another person who didn't learn elsewhere in life, but learned here that vandalism isn't a prank.

Don't put words in my mouth. What I am saying is this guy already has received oh plenty of humiliation in this thread and leaving it open is just like turning a knife in an open wound but it was all of his own making.
When you attempt to fool ATOT expect retaliation in a big way.
You're right about this thread serving as an exemple to others who would want to consider doing something like this that it might not be all that good of an idea at all. LOL

I have had my cell phone stolen, the work one at that and it was humiliating and I had to buy a new one. In a way I can look at what we got going here as a revenge toward all those out there doing this kind of crap.
So ya, let him have it, him and others will think twice before doing it again.
 

spaceman

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yea this is pretty shabby
my 2c
cant sperate fact from fiction w it
yeah no on asked
l8r
 

classy

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This a bit touchy for me. I don't know the guy as a poster, but I would imagine a lot of people would have walked out with the phone with the intention of turning it in. While he should have immediately took it to the front desk I am not going to pretend that many people would not have kept it to do exactly as he said he was going to do. I found a wallet in the parking lot one day and I did not take it in the store because I thought someone might steal something out of it, so I contacted the guy directly. I don't know about this one...........
 

skyking

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This a bit touchy for me. I don't know the guy as a poster, but I would imagine a lot of people would have walked out with the phone with the intention of turning it in. While he should have immediately took it to the front desk I am not going to pretend that many people would not have kept it to do exactly as he said he was going to do. I found a wallet in the parking lot one day and I did not take it in the store because I thought someone might steal something out of it, so I contacted the guy directly. I don't know about this one...........
I would do as I did before, dial the last call. That person has the best odds of knowing where the phone owner is/was going, and you can get them the phone back as quickly as possible. If the OP had just done that and the owner witnessed that, he would not be in trouble. The person on the other end would describe them and say they are in Wallyworld, and it would be cake to then go have a PA announcement made. Done deal. Phone in right hand, took all of 2 minutes.
 

CZroe

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This a bit touchy for me. I don't know the guy as a poster, but I would imagine a lot of people would have walked out with the phone with the intention of turning it in. While he should have immediately took it to the front desk I am not going to pretend that many people would not have kept it to do exactly as he said he was going to do. I found a wallet in the parking lot one day and I did not take it in the store because I thought someone might steal something out of it, so I contacted the guy directly. I don't know about this one...........

Like I said, because the owner is likely to check back even without word from you, the LEAST you could do was notify the management that you found it and leave your contact info, even if you aren't going to leave the lost item. That's what I do when I don't trust them enough to turn it over and I want to ensure that it gets back to the owner.

I would do as I did before, dial the last call. That person has the best odds of knowing where the phone owner is/was going, and you can get them the phone back as quickly as possible. If the OP had just done that and the owner witnessed that, he would not be in trouble. The person on the other end would describe them and say they are in Wallyworld, and it would be cake to then go have a PA announcement made. Done deal. Phone in right hand, took all of 2 minutes.

Dial a wallet's last call? That suggestion does not always work... even for cell phones! I've found them run dead or with damaged displays. My solution still applies.