I see HFCS products here.

[lxskllr]

What are trans fats ?

Usually found in hydrogenated oil. Margarine is a good example. They're used in a lot of baked goods as a lard replacement. A rough way of keeping track, are oils that want to be liquid, but are forced into being solid are probably bad for you.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Usually found in hydrogenated oil. Margarine is a good example. They're used in a lot of baked goods as a lard replacement. A rough way of keeping track, are oils that want to be liquid, but are forced into being solid are probably bad for you.

I looked it up. Unnatural fats. I do not understand much of it since i lack a chemistry education. Hydrogenation is what they use to make it.

Wiki makes it all to clear :

Although trans fats are edible, consumption of trans fats increases the risk of coronary heart disease

 

[Doppel]

I looked it up. Unnatural fats. I do not understand much of it since i lack a chemistry education. Hydrogenation is what they use to make it.

Wiki makes it all to clear :

They are the worst fat you can eat from what I can tell. FDA Has said there is no safe amount. Even foods with 0 grams of it may still have some because they can have a small amount and still call it 0 grams.

 

[vshah]

Know what else has HFCS that you would never even guess? Maple syrup! Yes, most of the popular brands of maple syrup such as Aunt Jamima is not actually real maple syrup. I imagine if you look hard enough you'll find the real stuff, but most people just buy what's in front of them and what they've known and grew up with, and assume the product actually is what it says. WRONG! Check the ingredients. Check the ingredients on peanut butter too. It's not just peanuts. If, there even is peanuts.

Lot of companies use very sneaky tactics to mislead the consumer, without actually lying, and still follow all the regulations such as listing the ingredients. The food industry is not about feeding us, it's about making money, without getting sued, so they still have to put some effort towards making food actually safe, but not more than that. If it taste good, we keep buying it, does not really matter what's in it.

Trader joes has real syrup, it is delicious

 

[Mixolydian]

Know what else has HFCS that you would never even guess? Maple syrup! Yes, most of the popular brands of maple syrup such as Aunt Jamima is not actually real maple syrup. I imagine if you look hard enough you'll find the real stuff, but most people just buy what's in front of them and what they've known and grew up with, and assume the product actually is what it says. WRONG! Check the ingredients.

I thought everyone knew this? Those "big brand" syrups are just liquid sugar.

Real maple syrup is readily available, at least In my area.

 

[dank69]

They are the worst fat you can eat from what I can tell. FDA Has said there is no safe amount. Even foods with 0 grams of it may still have some because they can have a small amount and still call it 0 grams.

Pretty sure it isn't any more "dangerous" than saturated fat, it's just that it is in everything so people eat more than they should. And yes, less than 0.5g/serving = 0g on the label.

 

[lxskllr]

Pretty sure it isn't any more "dangerous" than saturated fat, it's just that it is in everything so people eat more than they should. And yes, less than 0.5g/serving = 0g on the label.

They raise cholesterol levels higher than saturated, or other fats.

 

[surfsatwerk]

What are trans fats ?

Boy fats that want to be girl fats.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Boy fats that want to be girl fats.

You mean like this ? :biggrin:

 

[Soundmanred]

I thought everyone knew this? Those "big brand" syrups are just liquid sugar.

Yup, and here's a fun fact:
It doesn't say "maple syrup" anywhere on the bottles of Aunt Jemima, Hungry Jack, Mrs Butterworth's, etc.
They don't even misrepresent themselves, people just like to believe they do.

 

[surfsatwerk]

You mean like this ? :biggrin:

Yep, he/she could totally stand to lose a few pounds.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Yep, he/she could totally stand to lose a few pounds.

Does not look fat to me. Seems very sportive.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Usually found in hydrogenated oil. Margarine is a good example. They're used in a lot of baked goods as a lard replacement. A rough way of keeping track, are oils that want to be liquid, but are forced into being solid are probably bad for you.

Congrats, in a thread full of idiocy, you took the cake. This is easily the most illogical and nonsensical quote of the entire thread, though to be fair, I haven't read past your post yet.

There's no way of keeping track short of analyzing the composition of fatty acid content.

Furthermore, you can't "force" a liquid into being a solid, the melting point of fats is solely a function of its chemical structure. The structure can be modified (i.e. converted into another type of fat) by chemical reactions such as hydrogenation to improve its physical characteristics and improve texture, shelf life, etc.

I have no idea where you came up with that line, but it shows a massive misunderstanding of the chemistry involved with food and disease, though to be fair, even most "expert" nutritionists don't get it either.

 

[lxskllr]

Congrats, in a thread full of idiocy, you took the cake. This is easily the most illogical and nonsensical quote of the entire thread, though to be fair, I haven't read past your post yet.

There's no way of keeping track short of analyzing the composition of fatty acid content.

Furthermore, you can't "force" a liquid into being a solid, the melting point of fats is solely a function of its chemical structure. The structure can be modified (i.e. converted into another type of fat) by chemical reactions such as hydrogenation to improve its physical characteristics and improve texture, shelf life, etc.

I have no idea where you came up with that line, but it shows a massive misunderstanding of the chemistry involved with food and disease, though to be fair, even most "expert" nutritionists don't get it either.

You think awfully highly of yourself for knowing fuck all about what you're talking about. When an oil is hydrogenated it's melting point gets raised, hence I colloquially said it's "forced in to being a solid". Fuckwit...

 

[feralkid]

Know what else has HFCS that you would never even guess? Maple syrup! Yes, most of the popular brands of maple syrup such as Aunt Jamima is not actually real maple syrup.

You can't possibly be serious.

 

[who?]

Fructose goes to the liver and may cause problems there. Steve Jobs was a fruitarian and look what happened to him.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Fructose goes to the liver and may cause problems there. Steve Jobs was a fruitarian and look what happened to him.

He had pancreas cancer.

The prognosis for pancreatic cancer is usually very poor;[210] Jobs stated that he had a rare, far less aggressive type known as islet cell neuroendocrine tumor.

If it is the same cells, it is the islets of Langerhans.
That makes me think of viruses and not fruit.
In my amateur opinion , could have been a combination infection of lymphocytic choriomeningitis virus or Coxsackie B4 virus or Paramyxoviruses. We will never know.
Something that has not been discovered by his immunesystem. I do not know.

 

[William Gaatjes]

What i do not understand is why it is not operable. Without those islets, people turn into a diabetic similar as a type 1 diabetic. At least that is what i think but of course i am not a specialist.

 

[Red Squirrel]

You can't possibly be serious.

Check the ingredients. I was surprised too. Interestingly, it's made by Pepsi. Probably in the same factory. We're basically putting pop on our pancakes.

The real stuff is available, you just have to look, but these big brands tend to be what we grew up with and know and you just buy it without thinking. It helps to stop and actually check ingredients sometimes.

 

[dank69]

lol

 

[Jeff7]

Check the ingredients. I was surprised too. Interestingly, it's made by Pepsi. Probably in the same factory. We're basically putting pop on our pancakes.

The real stuff is available, you just have to look, but these big brands tend to be what we grew up with and know and you just buy it without thinking. It helps to stop and actually check ingredients sometimes.

I don't think Aunt Jemima has anything that's marketed as "maple" anything.

Though they will certainly mislead when possible.
- "Butter Rich"
- "Natural Butter Flavor"
- A picture of butter.

"Contains No Butter"


They're certainly not the only manufacturer who does this kind of thing.
Misleading people and misrepresenting the product is generally a basic part of a Marketing Department's job. Government regulations at least prevent them from outright lying.

 

[pete6032]

My understanding is that HFCS is similar to sugar but the slight chemical differences mean you eat it but your body does not feel full after eating it like it would if you are natural cane sugar, so you eat the HFCS and just want more due to not feeling satieated.


I have mostly eliminated it from my diet. The only time I have it is usually when I eat candy.

Outside of organic products, It's very hard to find salad dressing, jelly, tomato sauce, or salsa here in the US that doesn't have HFCS in it. It's also in a lot of breads.

 

[uclaLabrat]

You think awfully highly of yourself for knowing fuck all about what you're talking about. When an oil is hydrogenated it's melting point gets raised, hence I colloquially said it's "forced in to being a solid". Fuckwit...

It doesn't FORCE it into anything. It changes it into a completely different chemical with different properties. I'm the fuckwit who knows fuckall about what I'm talking about?

Further, you extrapolated your first bullshit premise into a bullshit conclusion, which is:

A rough way of keeping track, are oils that want to be liquid, but are forced into being solid are probably bad for you.

So trans fats have roughly the same melting points as saturated fats, probably slightly higher since they can pack tighter, while cis fats have substantially lower melting points. Cis fats are generally healthier, saturated fats kinda in the middle, and trans fats generally worse. Point being, your premise and conclusion are hilariously flawed.

Try again.

 

[ElFenix]

Check the ingredients. I was surprised too. Interestingly, it's made by Pepsi. Probably in the same factory. We're basically putting pop on our pancakes.

The real stuff is available, you just have to look, but these big brands tend to be what we grew up with and know and you just buy it without thinking. It helps to stop and actually check ingredients sometimes.

i think he was expressing disbelief that you were not apparently aware that aunt jemima and others are not maple syrup

 

[disappoint]

Know what else has HFCS that you would never even guess? Maple syrup! Yes, most of the popular brands of maple syrup such as Aunt Jamima is not actually real maple syrup.

Quite the discovery my good chap. Anyone else wondering when this poor fellow will finally discover religion is bullshit and what that will look like? A post on the internet I'm sure.

You would never guess Aunt Jemima is not actually real maple syrup....Because God told me so. How embarrassing to be dimwitted and yet deluded enough to think you're not.