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I recently started watching TNG

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My favorite was Q Who?

The series was pretty good, but flawed in parts. I loved it when I was younger.

Voyager was both good and bad... It had good elements, but overall Janeway was too good in that she made dealing with and beating the Borg look way too easy.
 
qliveur said:
Agreed. Her inconsistencies mirrored the show's. That she was later promoted to admiral was laughable.

But I think Classy's trolling us. 😛
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I like to think Janeway was promoted to get her the hell away from a job that matters (such as that of a captain's chair on an actual ship). She probably worked in Records or something.
 
I have to agree that Janeway was a buffoon who had no business running a ship. When Nemesis came out and I heard she was Picard's boss, I was (and still am) in disbelief.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
Best of Both Worlds and Yesterday's Enterprise were the best episodes IMO. Any episode featuring a storyline with Wesley Crusher as the main focus automatically became one of the worst.
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:thumbsup: Some more of my favorites:
The first part of the one where Data meets his maker (taking over the Enterprise in about 2.5 seconds)
The one where Enterprises from multiple universes keep poping out


IndyColtsFan said:
Once the Dominion War took off, perhaps. I am going to watch those seasons when I'm done with TNG.
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Yes - still not enough space battles for my tastes but those cost a lot of $ so I try to understand

qliveur said:
Yes, pics of GF who told you to watch TNG, and was also open to a potential threesome?
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😱 I just realzied he mentioend his GF and no one until you demanded pics! Apparently you can get a bunch of nerds sidetracked from girls by talking about really nerdy stuff...
 
Kadarin said:
Voyager was both good and bad... It had good elements, but overall Janeway was too good in that she made dealing with and beating the Borg look way too easy.
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Yeah - talk about making the borg look wussy. Big Bad assimilating Borg civilization constantly bitch slapped by a single ship (and species 8675309 or whatever they were called)

IndyColtsFan said:
I have to agree that Janeway was a buffoon who had no business running a ship. When Nemesis came out and I heard she was Picard's boss, I was (and still am) in disbelief.
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Eh - I can kind of see it. As buffonish as she was you'd pretty much have to promote someone who did what she did through the series. She did manage to get most of her crew home (along with other notable accomplishemnts I am sure the writers worked in but can't think of off the top of my head) They couldn't promote Picard as it would take him away from his ship. (It only kinda worked for Kirk)
 
JeffreyLebowski said:
2nd.

She was the worst captain shown in Star Trek.
It's her fault they got stuck in the Delta Quadrant. In some episodes she's a raging bitch and will spite anyone for anything. she'll be damned if the Prime Directive will stop her. In other episodes she's little Mrs. Perfect (chain smoker) that would rather let her people die than break the Prime Directive.
I hated her Character, and I hated how Voyager somehow was the most powerful non borg ship out there. But even then, The Borg were no real problem for them which is stupid.
Oh let's not forget, that Voyager could take a absolute beating, yet in the next episode it's perfectly fine.

Chacotay should have brought out his tomahawk and split her f'ing head open on the bridge and declared himself the captain.
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I will still never forget the time some of the crew got stuck in the holodeck with the safeties off, facing an angry mob, and she refused to pull the plug because it would erase all the holographic people.

But earlier there was Tuvix and she insisted that he be "killed" in order to split him back into Tuvok and Neelix.

And of course her inconsistent application of the Prime Directive. Sometimes she takes sides, other times she refuses to lift a finger.
 
i like that episode where something happens, and then something worse happens and everyone's going to die, and then with 10 minutes to go somebody completely fabricates some bullshit miracle to save the day, and then for the last couple minutes they reflect on what's happened. that's my favorite.
 
JeffreyLebowski said:
2nd.

She was the worst captain shown in Star Trek.
It's her fault they got stuck in the Delta Quadrant. In some episodes she's a raging bitch and will spite anyone for anything. she'll be damned if the Prime Directive will stop her. In other episodes she's little Mrs. Perfect (chain smoker) that would rather let her people die than break the Prime Directive.
I hated her Character, and I hated how Voyager somehow was the most powerful non borg ship out there. But even then, The Borg were no real problem for them which is stupid.
Oh let's not forget, that Voyager could take a absolute beating, yet in the next episode it's perfectly fine.

Chacotay should have brought out his tomahawk and split her f'ing head open on the bridge and declared himself the captain.
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Yeah, it's true.. USS Voyager was an Intrepid-class ship; technically considered a light cruiser. Ships like the Enterprise-D (and E) were dreadnoughts... much more likely to survive against the Borg. It's faster than the Galaxy-class and has a better computer system, though. Galaxy-class ships have Type X phaser arrays, Intrepid-class ships have Type IX. The Sovereign-class (Enterprise-E) has Type XII.

The only saving grace for Voyager was the relatively inferior technology (except the Borg) they encountered in the Delta quadrant.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
I have to agree that Janeway was a buffoon who had no business running a ship. When Nemesis came out and I heard she was Picard's boss, I was (and still am) in disbelief.
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What is this "Nemesis" of which you speak? 😛

TNG was such a great show. Why did make the transition to such bad movies (First Contact excluded, even though Guinan was very conspicuously missing)?

Oh, and Voyager had its own version of Westley crusher, but this one had big tits.
 
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qliveur said:
What is this "Nemesis" of which you speak? 😛

TNG was such a great show. Why did make the transition to such bad movies (First Contact excluded, even though Guinan was very conspicuously missing)?

Oh, and Voyager had its own version of Westley crusher, but this one had big tits.
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That's a good question, though I didn't think Insurrection or Nemesis were as bad as the reviews. I thought Generations was boring, however.

I think they would've made more had Patrick Stewart not wanted out. Most of the cast looks pretty bad now but considering how long the classic crew made movies, they could probably still make another if they could convince Stewart.
 
amddude said:
Patrick Stewart was total overkill for Picard's role and although there are other great actors in the show, he just slam dunked it all the way.
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Yeah as much as I wanna love the entire show he pretty much carried the whole thing by himself. If they didnt have a strong lead no way in hell would it have gone 7 seasons and 4 movies.
Theres a reason he got several episodes all to himself, like Tapestry and Inner Light.
When they tried that shit with other cast members it came off like a giant can of fail sauce.

Not that anyone was lacking in any particular way, (except Will wheaton of course) but they were all pretty 2 dimensional at the start and didnt make much progress in 7 whole years. Even Data didnt seem to be any better or more interesting after all his experiences, EXCEPT in the final episode when he had clearly grown a lot during his time at the college.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
That's a good question, though I didn't think Insurrection or Nemesis were as bad as the reviews. I thought Generations was boring, however.

I think they would've made more had Patrick Stewart not wanted out. Most of the cast looks pretty bad now but considering how long the classic crew made movies, they could probably still make another if they could convince Stewart.
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Brent Spiner didn't want to do Data anymore either. he said he's way too old right now and looked ridiculous in the last movie.
 
amdhunter said:
Wow. Just saw on Engadget that TNG will be released remastered on Bluray. I thought TNG wasn't recorded on film.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/28/star-trek-the-next-generation-is-coming-to-blu-ray-starting-in/
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Depending on which story you hear: It was shot on film initially and then immediately moved to video. Some might argue that all the stuff on film is unedited so they would have to recut everything from scratch and reapply the special effects in order to make bluray worthwhile.
 
amdhunter said:
Wow. Just saw on Engadget that TNG will be released remastered on Bluray. I thought TNG wasn't recorded on film.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/28/star-trek-the-next-generation-is-coming-to-blu-ray-starting-in/
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Cool! :awe:
shortylickens said:
Depending on which story you hear: It was shot on film initially and then immediately moved to video. Some might argue that all the stuff on film is unedited so they would have to recut everything from scratch and reapply the special effects in order to make bluray worthwhile.
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Yeah, they were shot on film, alright (thank god). The special effects will all have to be redone, though. T'will be expensive to produce, but they'll definitely recoup it.
 
shortylickens said:
Depending on which story you hear: It was shot on film initially and then immediately moved to video. Some might argue that all the stuff on film is unedited so they would have to recut everything from scratch and reapply the special effects in order to make bluray worthwhile.
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Yep, this looks to be the case since they are going to redo all the effects. I can't wait for this. :wub:
 
shortylickens said:
Depending on which story you hear: It was shot on film initially and then immediately moved to video. Some might argue that all the stuff on film is unedited so they would have to recut everything from scratch and reapply the special effects in order to make bluray worthwhile.
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They are in fact redoing all of the special effects in CGI. They are releasing three episodes, Encounter at Farpoint, Sins of the Father and The Inner Light early next year, with the full seasons in the following years. Hopefully it will be in widescreen to boot.
 
QuantumPion said:
They are in fact redoing all of the special effects in CGI. They are releasing three episodes, Encounter at Farpoint, Sins of the Father and The Inner Light early next year, with the full seasons in the following years. Hopefully it will be in widescreen to boot.
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It was shot in fullscreen.
Making it widescreen would mean clipping the scene, which they did for the special edition of Gone With The Wind and it looks like shit.
 
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