I recently started watching TNG

Beev

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Growing up I only caught bits of the show while my dad watched TOS and TNG, and they looked boring as hell. So I was a 27 year old nerd who had never seen a single episode of any Star Trek series...

Well, my girlfriend convinced me to give TNG a shot and holy mother of GOD it's fantastic. I love how well run the Enterprise is and how professional everyone strives to be. Doors don't need locks because everyone is respectful and disciplined.

We just watched the season 3 finale / season 4 premier last night: The Best of Both Worlds, and it was great. I'm glad there are still four seasons to watch :awe:

I just wanted to share my new found love.
 

SlitheryDee

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I just made it through TNG. I was astonished by how well it held up. Obviously a lot of thought went into the dialog, particularly Picard's occasional spiels. I'm on season 4 of Voyager now, and I watched all 4 seasons of Enterprise before TNG, so technically I'm watching them in chronological order from the star trek world's perspective. Enterprise is definitely the weakest series of the group, but it was still bqetter than I thought it would be. Voyager is nearly as good as TNG as well.
 

Fritzo

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Growing up I only caught bits of the show while my dad watched TOS and TNG, and they looked boring as hell. So I was a 27 year old nerd who had never seen a single episode of any Star Trek series...

Well, my girlfriend convinced me to give TNG a shot and holy mother of GOD it's fantastic. I love how well run the Enterprise is and how professional everyone strives to be. Doors don't need locks because everyone is respectful and disciplined.

We just watched the season 3 finale / season 4 premier last night: The Best of Both Worlds, and it was great. I'm glad there are still four seasons to watch :awe:

I just wanted to share my new found love.

Best of Both Worlds was actually the best episode(s) of the series. What sucked when it originally aired is they made it a season end cliff hanger. We had to wait 3 months to find out if their plan was going to kill Picard or not.
 

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Best of Both Worlds was actually the best episode(s) of the series. What sucked when it originally aired is they made it a season end cliff hanger. We had to wait 3 months to find out if their plan was going to kill Picard or not.

Best of Both Worlds and Yesterday's Enterprise were the best episodes IMO. Any episode featuring a storyline with Wesley Crusher as the main focus automatically became one of the worst.
 

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Best of Both Worlds was actually the best episode(s) of the series. What sucked when it originally aired is they made it a season end cliff hanger. We had to wait 3 months to find out if their plan was going to kill Picard or not.

I did really enjoy the episode. My favorite so far is the season 1 finale where they find people cryo frozen from our time. It put a lot into perspective.
 

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Best of Both Worlds and Yesterday's Enterprise were the best episodes IMO. Any episode featuring a storyline with Wesley Crusher as the main focus automatically became one of the worst.

I've heard tons of hate for Wes, but he hasn't bothered me... yet. Though I don't like how he's nearly perfect and can't really do anything wrong, and I don't like how he randomly saves the day.
 

Fritzo

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I just made it through TNG. I was astonished by how well it held up. Obviously a lot of thought went into the dialog, particularly Picard's occasional spiels. I'm on season 4 of Voyager now, and I watched all 4 seasons of Enterprise before TNG, so technically I'm watching them in chronological order from the star trek world's perspective. Enterprise is definitely the weakest series of the group, but it was still bqetter than I thought it would be. Voyager is nearly as good as TNG as well.

Voyager's downfall is too much technobable. Instead of coming up with plausible solutions, they would pull a "If we invert the power couplings to the auxiliary phaser conduit, it should make an inverse tachyon beam that will cause a sub-space distortion." at the end of every show. They also tried way to hard to force relationships in the beginning. It sort of evened out around season 4-5.

Enterprise's flaw was the first two seasons were spent making humans look like wimpy idiots. Our weapons sucked, our knowledge sucked, or technology sucked, nobody liked us...it was kind of depressing. They fixed that in season 3 and it actually started getting really good at that point, but it also got the axe. They should have left it running for another couple of years.
 

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I've heard tons of hate for Wes, but he hasn't bothered me... yet. Though I don't like how he's nearly perfect and can't really do anything wrong, and I don't like how he randomly saves the day.

I didn't like him in the 80s and 90s when I watched the show in first run. Over the intervening years, I thought "Was he really THAT bad?" Once I started watching it again recently, I decided he is even worse than I remember. I really wish they would've had him die in a really gruesome holodeck incident. That would've been the highest rated episode. :D
 

Fritzo

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I've heard tons of hate for Wes, but he hasn't bothered me... yet. Though I don't like how he's nearly perfect and can't really do anything wrong, and I don't like how he randomly saves the day.

The next standout episode is in season 5 - The Inner Light, where Picard is affected by an alien probe and lives the entire life of another person in a period of a few minutes. It's a bit of a tear jerker and won Patrick Stewart a few awards for his performance.
 

Pheran

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TNG definitely has its good points, though I'm a little surprised that you didn't turn back after the awful "space jellyfish have sex" pilot.
 

Beev

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TNG definitely has its good points, though I'm a little surprised that you didn't turn back after the awful "space jellyfish have sex" pilot.

I watched the pilot probably 6 months ago and was very "meh" about it. It took a lot of convincing on my girlfriends part to get me to start watching the rest.
 

zsdersw

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I've been a Star Trek fan for more than 20 years, and TNG was and remains my favorite.

My favorite episodes, in no particular order:

Timescape
Redemption (both parts)
Clues
All Good Things
The Wounded
Masks
Unification (both parts)
Cause and Effect
Yesterday's Enterprise
The Inner Light
Relics
Data's Day
A Fistful of Datas

But they were all good.
 
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Fritzo

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I watched the pilot probably 6 months ago and was very "meh" about it. It took a lot of convincing on my girlfriends part to get me to start watching the rest.

To be fair, the first two seasons of TNG were mostly recycled scripts of Star Trek, Phase II (the failed original series revival from the mid 70's). Gene Roddenberry made most of those scripts, which is why they were dated and downright awkward in some areas.

I mean, WTF?

man_in_a_skirt.jpg
 

zsdersw

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DS9 was only good for the Dominion War arc, in my opinion. There were single good episodes outside of that, though... all of them involving Garak (my favorite character from the series).

Voyager was a close second to TNG.. with a series finale that was nearly as good as TNGs.

Enterprise never interested me.
 

PingSpike

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Best of Both Worlds and Yesterday's Enterprise were the best episodes IMO. Any episode featuring a storyline with Wesley Crusher as the main focus automatically became one of the worst.

The "let's fuck around in the holodeck" episodes were the worst ones that were also pretty common. Except for the one where the guy was banging Troy in the holodeck because that was as close to what would really happen in there as they ever dared portray.
 

JTsyo

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Growing up I only caught bits of the show while my dad watched TOS and TNG, and they looked boring as hell. So I was a 27 year old nerd who had never seen a single episode of any Star Trek series...

Well, my girlfriend convinced me to give TNG a shot and holy mother of GOD it's fantastic. I love how well run the Enterprise is and how professional everyone strives to be. Doors don't need locks because everyone is respectful and disciplined.

We just watched the season 3 finale / season 4 premier last night: The Best of Both Worlds, and it was great. I'm glad there are still four seasons to watch :awe:

I just wanted to share my new found love.

Well she's a keeper.

TNG was my favorite ST series. Watching it when I was younger, I didn't catch all the social commentary but now I get more of the themes.
 

evident

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the social commentaries make the show hold up real well i think. there was even an elian gonzolez like episode
 

AstroManLuca

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I thought TNG and DS9 were of about equal quality, but were very different shows. I like the story arc aspects of DS9, whereas TNG tries a little too hard to hit the reset button at the end of every episode. But TNG is still good, especially in season 3 and later. First two seasons are mostly bad but have a few good episodes.

Didn't like Voyager though. It tried to get back to the TNG formula of having each episode be self-contained, but they exclusively used technobabble to resolve the episodes' conflicts. And Janeway was a flip-flopper. Half the time she insisted on sticking to the Prime Directive even if it meant dooming an entire civilization, and the other half of the time she insisted on muscling her way into situations. Oh and she didn't give a shit about her crew either.

Right now I'm watching Stargate SG-1 and it's pretty sweet. It's on Netflix instant, you should check it out when you get the chance if you haven't already seen it.
 

lxskllr

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TNG is one of my all time favorite shows. Top 5 shows in no particular order...

TNG
Northern Exposure
Twilight Zone
Addams Family
MASH