I present to you the 2013 POTUS.

[bamacre]

Defense and foreign policy decisions have little to do do with political parties directly, ever since the U.S. became the democratic world's sole guardian. Kenndy, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton all supported foreign military actions and aid. We can disagree about the merit of the position of America as the world's only superpower but that is a different topic of discussion.

I said nothing about defending the Left's military actions. Just because both parties support something doesn't mean it's right, and usually it means the opposite.

 

[bamacre]

I doubt Mr West takes war lightly. Reagan was made out to be a potential war monger too. Democrats and liberal Reps (Bush) are the chess board warriors.

Reagan had his hands all over the place.

 

[Danube]

Reagan had his hands all over the place.

So did Bill Clinton if ya know what I'm sayin

 

[MotF Bane]

You're correct, both main parties are war mongers when it suits them.

How about if we, gasp, use the military for national defense instead of attempting to police the world and force our views on everyone?

I believe you may be feverish, indeed, even delusional. Surely you jest that our military could be scaled back, when there are other countries out there!

 

[WhipperSnapper]

This is the kind of leadership we need. A brilliant military historian whom is unapologetic about telling the truth. And he's a free-market libertarian to boot!

How will he solve our nation's very serious economic problems? Since he supports free market principles, wouldn't he make it easier for businesses to send jobs overseas and to import foreigners to displace Americans from jobs domestically? Consistent with free market principles, wouldn't he also support increasing the amount of legal immigration so that any person in the world who wanted to move to the U.S. could do so?

 

[her209]

Isn't that what they said about this guy in 2004?

 

[QuantumPion]

How will he solve our nation's very serious economic problems? Since he supports free market principles, wouldn't he make it easier for businesses to send jobs overseas and to import foreigners to displace Americans from jobs domestically? Consistent with free market principles, wouldn't he also support increasing the amount of legal immigration so that any person in the world who wanted to move to the U.S. could do so?

What is it with the kooklibs on this forum and their crazy strawman characterizations of conservative positions? Ah well, I guess I can entertain you anyways.

I don't know what West's positions are on all the issues, I just found out about him recently. But here is what I would do. Reduce taxes, government spending, and government regulations. Probably some sort of banking reform is needed to get rid of all the corruption introduced by government meddling.

Yes, this would make it easier for some businesses to send job overseas. Keep in mind though, for every job sent overseas, 2-10 new jobs are created due to lower prices and higher demand. Stifling competition and protectionism does not save net jobs - it only saves the protected industry's jobs at the expense of many times more jobs everywhere else.

The amount of legal immigration allowed has nothing to do with free market principles... I don't know where you are getting this argument from. The amount of immigration allowed should be determined by the state of the economy and how well the country is able to absorb new immigrants. There is no part of free market principles that demands unlimited immigration, this is mainly a social issue, not an economic one. If too many immigrants are allowed to come at the same time, instead of integrating into American culture they will form their own pocket sub-culture, which is a determent to the country as a whole. It leads to balkanization and such.

 

[Jhhnn]

West postures for votes to a conservative audience... so, uhh, what's new? Anything?

West could have cited the crusades, too, and the expulsion of Jews and muslims from Spain in 1492, along with the much more recent european colonialism in muslim countries, not to mention the Balfour Declaration and a few of the finer points of recent meddling in Muslim nations' affairs... and our support of the most regressive govt on the planet, the Saudi monarchy...

Hell, Righties applauded when the Bush Clan invaded the most secular state in the mideast, Iraq, and dismantled their govt, opening the door for muslim extremism...

Yeh, West is just the guy we need to start a crusade against the world's muslims, I tell ya...

 

[jpeyton]

I present to you someone who won't be on the ballot.

 

[Freshgeardude]

If this man is the republican nominee for the next potus election, I will hands down vote for him.


He spoke at my private school (jewish, yea, but doesnt change the facts) and everything he believes in is exactly my feel on policies and politics in the country.


Supporter of Israel, constitutional rights, following of international laws (disagreed that when somalian pirates attacked US warship that they be sent to court in US for prosecution. believes a court should be set up on the ship to determine what the man did and decide punishment.) ,protecting america in every way, energy independence, against welfare and unenployment at the current standings, against illegal immigration ( obv support for SB 1070), etc.


BTW for anyone who wont read his history. He is such a self made man. lived in the inner city georgia and was a poor family, yes welfare to help, but he went and made a military career and now is running for a spot in the HOR, and probably put back most, if not all of the money he took from welfare services back into the system.


excellent man, i hope to see him rise up.

 

[umbrella39]

Idiot v 2.0 in 2013...

 

[classy]

I present to you the 2013 POTUS

 

[Noobtastic]

From his website, seems he has a problem with sending $900 million to Hamas, but not $3 billion a year to Israel. He appears to be another "limited government" Republican who accepts "big government" in areas where he approves.

well, hamas is a terrorist organization that straps bombs to children, and israel is an historic and #1 anti-terrorist ally that has played a critical role in post-9/11 american security needs.

can you not see the difference, or are you too filled with raging leftist idiocy to differentiate between peace-loving jews and homicidal muslims?

no wonder the muslim states have such pull with the europeans. with leftist fucks like yourself, apologizing for them, who needs enemies?

allen west would be considered a fascist and war monger if we was running for office in any enlightened european state, thats for sure.

West could have cited the crusades, too, and the expulsion of Jews and muslims from Spain in 1492, along with the much more recent european colonialism in muslim countries, not to mention the Balfour Declaration and a few of the finer points of recent meddling in Muslim nations' affairs... and our support of the most regressive govt on the planet, the Saudi monarchy...

crusades were inspired by islamic imperialism and caliphates. let's not forget the whole muslim and arab existence is predicated on mass-exploitation and genocide.

muslims and arabs wiped out the jews of medina, exterminated the assyrians, phoencians, egyptians, kurds, hindus, etc...etc..

who do you think established muslim nations?

there were no muslim nations prior to colonialism. who do you think drew the borders of syria, lebanon, egypt, iraq, etc...?

who supported and armed their governments? who discovered their oil?

The evil imperialists of course.

and our support for saudi arabia began under a DEMOCRAT. LOL

 

[WhipperSnapper]

What is it with the kooklibs on this forum and their crazy strawman characterizations of conservative positions? Ah well, I guess I can entertain you anyways.

As soon as someone claims to support the free market, whether or not the candidate is an economic traitor is an issue in play. Actually, it's an issue for all candidates as far as I'm concerned.

The free market has also resulted in 25% of the households owning 87% of all U.S. wealth. So, we really have to wonder whether such politicians are good for the other 75% of us. Will a guy like this who claims to support the free market just further promote the economic policies that have resulted in the top 25% having 87% of the wealth?

Yes, this would make it easier for some businesses to send job overseas. Keep in mind though, for every job sent overseas, 2-10 new jobs are created due to lower prices and higher demand.

If you have references for that claim, I'd like to see them. Our nation has been running a multi-hundred billion dollar trade deficit for years, so where are all of these "2-10 new jobs created"? If 2-10 new jobs are created for each job sent overseas, where are they? Why is the unemployment rate so high (about 22% using the Shadowstats figure, about 17% using U6), and that doesn't even count underemployment. If what you say is true--2-10 jobs for each one sent overseas--we should be swimming in a sea of available middle class jobs right now.

The claim on its face seems nonsensical--we gain jobs by losing jobs. It's almost the same as saying, "We need lots of unemployment in order to have more employment."

Stifling competition and protectionism does not save net jobs - it only saves the protected industry's jobs at the expense of many times more jobs everywhere else.

That is an unsupported bromide in an international context.

The problem with your assertion is that it assumes that the benefits of competition end up being internalized. However, since we have removed all barriers to trade the market is now worldwide. What you say is probably true if it is internalized, but the problem is that because the market is not internal the jobs created or saved end up being saved in India, China, and Mexico.

Why don't you do the math and explain how if the supply of labor increases dramatically almost over night relative to the demand for labor (manufacturing capacity, capital, customers' ability to purchase products, etc.) why the price point--wages, purchasing power, or the share of a worker's contribution to the act of wealth production that he gets to keep--will not decrease?

(So far no economist, politician, or pundit has been able to provide a convincing answer to that question to explain how global labor arbitrage will benefit Americans and if they did you can bet that we would hear about it everyday because they would be shouting it from the rooftops.)

The amount of legal immigration allowed has nothing to do with free market principles... I don't know where you are getting this argument from.

Immigration restrictions are a form of economic dictatorship in that such laws tell domestic businesses who they can and cannot employ domestically. Under real laissez-faire capitalism anyone who wanted to enter the United States for work and to establish citizenship would be free to do so as long as some private property owner somewhere were willing to let them stay on his private property.

The amount of immigration allowed should be determined by the state of the economy and how well the country is able to absorb new immigrants.

I agree with that. Following that principle, our nation wouldn't allow any immigration at all until we had about 5% real unemployment. However, when you contemplate the long-term economic effects of population explosion, it really doesn't make any sense to have any immigration at all.

There is no part of free market principles that demands unlimited immigration, this is mainly a social issue, not an economic one.

Immigration is very much an economic issue as well as a social issue and a population growth and environmental issue.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Supporter of Israel, constitutional rights, following of international laws (disagreed that when somalian pirates attacked US warship that they be sent to court in US for prosecution. believes a court should be set up on the ship to determine what the man did and decide punishment.) ,protecting america in every way, energy independence, against welfare and unenployment at the current standings, against illegal immigration ( obv support for SB 1070), etc.

He doesn't sound like such a bad guy but I wonder what his positions are on foreign outsourcing, H-1B and l-1 visas, legal immigration, and the increasing amount of wealth inequality in this country.

It would be nice to have a politician who believes that when Somali pirates attack a U.S. warship that the only proper response is for the warship to kill all of the pirates.

 

[nick1985]

Idiot v 2.0 in 2013...

So you are expecting Obama to win?

 

[Zebo]

I love this guy. Of course there is no chance the left and media hates a black conservative more than devil hates holy water, can not have Blacks leave the (D) plantation, and will do everything in their power to destroy him.

 

[Zebo]

He doesn't sound like such a bad guy but I wonder what his positions are on foreign outsourcing, H-1B and l-1 visas, legal immigration, and the increasing amount of wealth inequality in this country.

It would be nice to have a politician who believes that when Somali pirates attack a U.S. warship that the only proper response is for the warship to kill all of the pirates.

Well all pols swallow the corporatist line - so what you gonna do?

 

[Zebo]

Good man and a tea party fav - from 2003:

TIKRIT, Iraq (CNN) -- The commanding general of the 4th Infantry Division on Friday accepted a U.S. military investigator's recommendation and ordered administrative action against Lt. Col. Allen West, who was accused of using improper methods to force information out of an Iraqi detainee...

Following a military hearing, West was fined $5,000 over two months, according to West's civillian attorney, Neal Puck

The case stems from an incident August 20 at a military base in Taji, just north of Baghdad, when West was interrogating an Iraqi policeman, who was believed to have information about a plot to assassinate West with an ambush on a U.S. convoy...

West said he also threatened to kill Hamoody. Military prosecutors say West followed up on that threat by taking the suspect outside, put him on the ground near a weapons clearing barrel and fired his 9 mm pistol into the barrel.

Apparently not knowing where West's gun was aimed, Hamoody cracked and gave information about the planned ambush on West's convoy, thwarting the attack.

West said there were no further ambushes on U.S. forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post on October 4.

"I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers," West testified to a military courtroom of observers and some teary-eyed troops formerly under his command.

Asked if he would have act differently if under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/12/sprj.nirq.west.ruling/

When asked is he'd do it again after the idiots who run this country put him through ringer he said : "If it's about the lives of my men and their safety, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can"

 

[nick1985]

Of course there is no chance the left and media hates a black conservative more than devil hates holy water

lol

 

[marincounty]

If this man is the republican nominee for the next potus election, I will hands down vote for him.

BTW for anyone who wont read his history. He is such a self made man. lived in the inner city georgia and was a poor family, yes welfare to help, but he went and made a military career and now is running for a spot in the HOR, and probably put back most, if not all of the money he took from welfare services back into the system.
excellent man, i hope to see him rise up.

Self-made man? Isn't military pay paid by the taxpayers? He's been living off of the taxpayers his whole life. And will continue to live off the taxpayers with his likely large military pension and benefits.

 

[nick1985]

Self-made man? Isn't military pay paid by the taxpayers? He's been living off of the taxpayers his whole life. And will continue to live off the taxpayers with his likely large military pension and benefits.

You dont think a military officer is self-made? Do you think they just fall into that position? They robot their way through OCS and rise to colonel? A piece of trash that collects a welfare check their entire life is someone who is living off the taxpayers. A war veteran officer has earned his keep.

You are a fucking joke if you honestly believe that.


Get real

 

[PJABBER]

Self-made man? Isn't military pay paid by the taxpayers? He's been living off of the taxpayers his whole life. And will continue to live off the taxpayers with his likely large military pension and benefits.

Dude, you have absolutely no idea about the real world and what it takes to make it in the professions you love to criticize. Every post you make portrays an abysmal ignorance. Carry on! :awe:

 

[dali71]

Self-made man? Isn't military pay paid by the taxpayers? He's been living off of the taxpayers his whole life. And will continue to live off the taxpayers with his likely large military pension and benefits.

He put his life on the line to defend your freedom to be a colossal douchebag, so you should thank the man.

 

[Zebo]

Self-made man? Isn't military pay paid by the taxpayers? He's been living off of the taxpayers his whole life. And will continue to live off the taxpayers with his likely large military pension and benefits.

Self made is anyone who makes success w/o a silver spoon in mouth not the job they keep.