You caught me.I say you're trolling. You asked.
You caught me.I say you're trolling. You asked.
Which have RAM on board for a reason. While new PCIe versions multiply bandwidth, latency is usually still measured in 1000s of ns, a far cry of the sub 100ns common for accessing RAM (which is what CPUs need the many pins for).The system clearly works for GPUs
Which have RAM on board for a reason. While new PCIe versions multiply bandwidth, latency is usually still measured in 1000s of ns, a far cry of the sub 100ns common for accessing RAM (which is what CPUs need the many pins for).
Which have RAM on board for a reason. While new PCIe versions multiply bandwidth, latency is usually still measured in 1000s of ns, a far cry of the sub 100ns common for accessing RAM (which is what CPUs need the many pins for).
You will need to use SO-DIMMs so the cartridge will be a reasonable size.Nothing saying you couldn't put ram slots on the back of the cpu cartridge. Probably would wind up faster and MB makers would rejoice as it'd cut down their end cost.
Right. Also this. Just sayin'. Also, this. Know what I mean?
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/qnap-releases-mustang-200-computing-accelerator-card.html
The last time we saw cartridge-style CPUs, I bet many of the newer users on here weren't even born yet.
What's that got to do with anything? Windows can only see that many CPUs/cores, that won't change even with cartridge CPUs,if you go for -too many cores for windows to see- you will have to run some software layer for it.That's not the host CPU on a cartridge, that's an accelerator card that happens to use CPUs. About as relevant as the old graphics cards powered by an Intel i860.
Or the Xeon Phi, that hosted an entire separate Linux OS on the PCIe card (even if the host was Windows!).
What's that got to do with anything? Windows can only see that many CPUs/cores, that won't change even with cartridge CPUs,if you go for -too many cores for windows to see- you will have to run some software layer for it.
With a dual-CPU processor and an independent operating environment on a single PCIe card (2.0, x4),
Come on man. This is happening. Totally happening. You know this.
I'm with you, Bogg. I've suggested something similar in the past too. I think it makes a LOT of sense, at least to me.
And for those claiming that there aren't enough pins, what about two, or three stacked card-edge connectors? I think that the Xeon slotted CPUs utilized two rows, and Neo-Geo cartridges definitely did. Although, if CPU "carts" get that large, hmm, dunno. Maybe an AMD mega-APU? 300W with integrated water-cooling? GPU and 32-core CPU in one?
Edit: If CPUs were in the form-factor of a Neo-Geo cart (roughly VHS-sized, if you've never seen one), it might make it more likely to be upgraded during the lifetime of the PC. Or it could allow for just-in-time assembling of PCs, build them, and slot in the CPU just before shipping. Either way, you wouldn't need a tech, or to be a tech (like us), to swap CPUs.
Edit: With the larger-sized carts, maybe they could included HBM2 or 3DXpoint NVDIMM-P soldered to the CPU cart, much like the L2 cache was soldered on to the Pentium II Slot-1 carts.
I don't know, I wouldn't call what Intel announced as a slot CPU. It's actually they reversed the direction of the PCI slot, and made the whole computer (minus PCIE and aux IO) on the daughter board. If you look at the back of the card, it has ethernet and USB... it's a full computer.Looks like we nailed it, Larry. When will the naysayers learn to never question my unmatched wisdom?
I don't know, I wouldn't call what Intel announced as a slot CPU. It's actually they reversed the direction of the PCI slot, and made the whole computer (minus PCIE and aux IO) on the daughter board. If you look at the back of the card, it has ethernet and USB... it's a full computer.
Yep, so kinda nothing new here? Well perhaps this will do better than the Phi.Isn't that what older Phi cards were like? Kinda? Sorta? Just without the ethernet/USB . . .
Please refer to post #23 of this thread.
Looks like we nailed it, Larry. When will the naysayers learn to never question my unmatched wisdom?
Also, don't even worry about it, guys. You can edit your poll choices any time.
I think one of the limitations of slot/cartridge based CPU's is the cooling. These days if you look at how tall cooling is, it would not be trivial on high end CPU's to do the same when the CPU is orientated horizontally. Yes, they could use heat pipes, or AIO's or something else. But the design's would always have to work around the some "safe zone" so that it didn't intrude on memory or PCI slots. Basically, there is no benefit, to having the CPU package with all it's pins on the board like we have now.That's not a CPU on a cartridge, that's the entire CPU, chipset and memory on a daughterboard. No different from the Xeon Phi, as discussed previously.