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I paid $573 for all this service.. is it worth it?

The Stigenator

The Stigenator

Lifer
new timing chain, serpentine belt and water pump. New fuel filter (under tank), new coolant and spark plugs. Oil change.. it came to 573$.

I think its reasonable. He checked my brakes and said he pulled out some of my brake fluid and replaced it with fresh fluid (brakes feel nice, so i know he did something there).

This is for 120K mile service on my 2000 ford focus. I got 122K on it now.

according to my service log that i keep of my car.

The last coolant change was done at 72K so that's 50K on coolant ( i knew i needed coolant since teh cars internal fan would cut in and out when idling) - prior to that coolant change at 39K
The last spark plug change was at 69K.
The last fuel filter change was at 69K (last fuel filter change was at 25K)
The last PCV valve change was at 68K (still good apparently).
The last set of tires was at 65K (its about time to replace them, in 3K miles i got to get new tires).
Last brake change at 70K (front pads are still good, rears are still original).
Last K&N filter cleaned at 80K (put in new at 50K). Its time for it to be cleaned!!!

damn i put on a lot of mileage.. and the focus still runs strong! its running soo good now. I think the timing belt and accessory belt change was a good thing.
I think i should have gotten the valves adjusted while at it? its tapping a bit. But i will have him do it next time my mechanic sees it.
 
Wow... 122K miles on a 2000 vehicle? That seems kinda high... the service price doesn't seem that bad though.
 
Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
new timing chain, serpentine belt and water pump. New fuel filter (under tank), new coolant and spark plugs. Oil change.. it came to 573$.

I think its reasonable. He checked my brakes and said he pulled out some of my brake fluid and replaced it with fresh fluid (brakes feel nice, so i know he did something there).

This is for 120K mile service on my 2000 ford focus. I got 122K on it now.

according to my service log that i keep of my car.

The last coolant change was done at 72K so that's 50K on coolant ( i knew i needed coolant since teh cars internal fan would cut in and out when idling) - prior to that coolant change at 39K
The last spark plug change was at 69K.
The last fuel filter change was at 69K (last fuel filter change was at 25K)
The last PCV valve change was at 68K (still good apparently).
The last set of tires was at 65K (its about time to replace them, in 3K miles i got to get new tires).
Last brake change at 70K (front pads are still good, rears are still original).
Last K&N filter cleaned at 80K (put in new at 50K). Its time for it to be cleaned!!!

damn i put on a lot of mileage.. and the focus still runs strong! its running soo good now. I think the timing belt and accessory belt change was a good thing.
I think i should have gotten the valves adjusted while at it? its tapping a bit. But i will have him do it next time my mechanic sees it.
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Are you going to run that car into the ground, or stick with it for another year or two?
 
Originally posted by: Xanis
Wow... 122K miles on a 2000 vehicle? That seems kinda high... the service price doesn't seem that bad though.
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my dad had 100k miles on the 02 avalanch he traded in 2 months ago.

was still on original brake pads and rotors too.
 
doesn't seem bad at all if it includes parts. fuel filters (not sure where they are on a 2000 focus) typically are in the tank, so you have to drain the entire fuel tank, drop the fuel tank and replace the part. is a super bitch. the tapping you are hearing *might* not be your valves but your fuel injectors fyi.
 
apparnetly ford recommends the timing belt at 120, but i saw online for my SPI engine ppl were running 150K no probs on teh original timing belt. I figured stick to OE specs and replace it when i get a chance. Why risk a break when i least expect it. After all i am a high mileage driver.
 
spark plug changes every 61k miles though? Spark plugs should go at least 100k on most cars. Some are warrantied to go 150, 200.
 
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Xanis
Wow... 122K miles on a 2000 vehicle? That seems kinda high... the service price doesn't seem that bad though.
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my dad had 100k miles on the 02 avalanch he traded in 2 months ago.

was still on original brake pads and rotors too.
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Are you fvcking kidding me? 100k on the original brake pads and rotors a vehicle that weighs that much is NOT POSSIBLE.
In order for them to last that long, the brake pads would have to be hard enough where the braking distance would be unsafe for the vehicle to drive on public roads.
 
the first time my plugs werent bad, teh darn wires went bad and was shorting. He said teh wires i had were fine, but i had asked him to replace the plugs, he charged me 1/2 hr of labor for it, or so.

Its running better with new plugs, even though the last smog check it passed with super flying colors that it really didnt need it (smog check was at 118K) and it was running pretty much like a new car.
 
Originally posted by: vizkiz
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Xanis
Wow... 122K miles on a 2000 vehicle? That seems kinda high... the service price doesn't seem that bad though.
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my dad had 100k miles on the 02 avalanch he traded in 2 months ago.

was still on original brake pads and rotors too.
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Are you fvcking kidding me? 100k on the original brake pads and rotors a vehicle that weighs that much is NOT POSSIBLE.
In order for them to last that long, the brake pads would have to be hard enough where the braking distance would be unsafe for the vehicle to drive on public roads.
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All highway driving, engine breaking, etc? In theory, that's possible... of course, by that time the rotors would be shot, but crazier things have happened.
 
it is possible if its majority of miles are highway, I work in a shop, we see it from time to time...and another thing, valves are not adjustable on a ford focus.....
 
Originally posted by: allanon1965
it is possible if its majority of miles are highway, I work in a shop, we see it from time to time...and another thing, valves are not adjustable on a ford focus.....
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oh good.. thanks.. 🙂 then its teh injectors (my second option). I eventually will want to soup up teh car, put in a bigger intake, and exhaust and injectors just to get it to go faster, but i think even if i just increase injector size and increase airflow a bit ithink it will give me a lot more power.
 
new timing chain, serpentine belt and water pump. New fuel filter (under tank), new coolant and spark plugs. Oil change.. it came to 573$.
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Thats a pretty good deal.
 
Originally posted by: vizkiz
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Xanis
Wow... 122K miles on a 2000 vehicle? That seems kinda high... the service price doesn't seem that bad though.
Click to expand...

my dad had 100k miles on the 02 avalanch he traded in 2 months ago.

was still on original brake pads and rotors too.
Click to expand...

Are you fvcking kidding me? 100k on the original brake pads and rotors a vehicle that weighs that much is NOT POSSIBLE.
In order for them to last that long, the brake pads would have to be hard enough where the braking distance would be unsafe for the vehicle to drive on public roads.
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of course it is, it's a chevy, the best motor company, and the finest truck ever made, the avalanch.
 
oh good.. thanks.. then its teh injectors (my second option). I eventually will want to soup up teh car, put in a bigger intake, and exhaust and injectors just to get it to go faster, but i think even if i just increase injector size and increase airflow a bit ithink it will give me a lot more power.

That is a waste of money...seriously, we get cars in the shop that kids have done that to and caused all kinds of odd problems, check engine lights come on for lean exhaust, and other problems, those mods can actually cause major engine problems down the road....increased oil consumption and other things....
 
Originally posted by: radioouman
WHy did you need a new waterpump?
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they usually replace it when they change the timing belt. Its logical cause its on the same side and it has to come off to take off the timing chain ibelieve. The pump cost me 60 bucks.

allanon 1965: alright then i am leaving this car stock. I like the way it drives. Though i am going to replace teh suspension with SVT suspension components as soon as i make some moolah! The front suspension has gotten really soft and bouncy and in turns it tends to 'deflect' when i hit bumps mid turn.
 
New injectors are a complete waste of money unless yours are shot or you install forced induction.
 
Originally posted by: vizkiz
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Xanis
Wow... 122K miles on a 2000 vehicle? That seems kinda high... the service price doesn't seem that bad though.
Click to expand...

my dad had 100k miles on the 02 avalanch he traded in 2 months ago.

was still on original brake pads and rotors too.
Click to expand...

Are you fvcking kidding me? 100k on the original brake pads and rotors a vehicle that weighs that much is NOT POSSIBLE.
In order for them to last that long, the brake pads would have to be hard enough where the braking distance would be unsafe for the vehicle to drive on public roads.
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1995 Ford Bronco, 87k miles, original rotors and pads, weighs 4,780 lbs. unfueled and unloaded and still stops better then most cars 🙂
 
Overall, the price doesn't sound bad. Couple of questions...timing chain or timing belt? Chains rarely need to be replaced, certainly not at 120K. I guess it doesn't hurt to do it, just seems unnecessary. Timing belts however, 60K or so, and they need to be changed. HOWEVER, if it's the recommended service interval, then that's ok.

OK, Looking at a parts site, it appears to be a timing belt, which is a good thing to change. Broken timing belts can cause LOT of problems up to and including trashed engines...
Coolant should be changed every 2 years. Same with brake fluid. Flush & change every 2 years. YES, we all know people who have never changed their brake fluid, but it's hygroscopic, (absorbs moisture from the air) and that moisture (waater) tends to collect in the low parts of the brake system, like calipers and ABS parts. When you get into a hard braking situation, the water boils off, leaving you with no brakes...Changing it is good insurance...
 
yes, if the waterpump is driven by the timing belt, then it gets changes at the same time, more often than not, if you dont, the tension of the new belt will invariably cause the old waterpump to leak due to different load on the bearings of the old waterpump, seen this happen many times, and normally not due to over adjustment of the new timing belt, that will always give itself away as a whirring noise when the job is done...its a real bite in the a$$ to have to go back in after a few weeks to replace the waterpump that has started to leak.....
 
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