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I never understood why the Germans and Japanese worked together?

amdhunter

amdhunter

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I never understood why, of all the races, the Germans decided to work with the Japanese.

It was my understanding that Hitler thought that his race was pure and every other race was inferior...so it doesn't make sense why he would choose the most impure looking (therefore inferiorest) race of them all.

What was the reasoning behind hiring the Japanese? Was Hitler a weaboo? Did they love him long time?
 
I don't think they were very strongly allied.

But it might have something to do with the Japanese learning a lot from the Germans during their Industrial Revolution? I always kinda figured Japan and Germany were kinda tight.
 
Because one country cant kill everyone, you have to get help from some. That and they shared a common enemy, so why fight each other?
 
Originally posted by: tasmanian
Because one country cant kill everyone, you have to get help from some. That and they shared a common enemy, so why fight each other?
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Then why not ally with the Russians? Why choose an "impure" race to ally with?
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: tasmanian
Because one country cant kill everyone, you have to get help from some. That and they shared a common enemy, so why fight each other?
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Then why not ally with the Russians? Why choose an "impure" race to ally with?
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They did ally with the Russians.
But they wanted Russia. You can't take territory your ally possesses very easily, so they broke the alliance and tried to take Russia.
Japan is some little island in the sea a long way away.
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: tasmanian
Because one country cant kill everyone, you have to get help from some. That and they shared a common enemy, so why fight each other?
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Then why not ally with the Russians? Why choose an "impure" race to ally with?
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what?

German's had no common enemy shared with the Russians at the time.

And Russia at the time went against a lot of what Hitler believed, not to mention it was potentially massive territory for Germany to hold in a new empire, one of Hitler's many goals.
 
The Russians and Germans (originally Prussians) feuded for a long time, so it was inconceivable that they would ever join forces.
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: tasmanian
Because one country cant kill everyone, you have to get help from some. That and they shared a common enemy, so why fight each other?
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Then why not ally with the Russians? Why choose an "impure" race to ally with?
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They did ally with the Russians.
But they wanted Russia. You can't take territory your ally possesses very easily, so they broke the alliance and tried to take Russia.
Japan is some little island in the sea a long way away.
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Yeah it was more of a case of playing Russia like a cheap whore than actually allying with them. Hitler had no intention of holding friendly terms with Russia, they only used them to make it easy at the start of Germany's expansion.
 
Originally posted by: noonedoes
Originally posted by: polarmystery
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Originally posted by: Aflac
I don't think they were very strongly allied.

But it might have something to do with the Japanese learning a lot from the Germans during their Industrial Revolution? I always kinda figured Japan and Germany were kinda tight.
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More to do with common interests and Japan being located half way around the world so it served Germany's immediate purposes. Just like Germany allied with the USSR temporarily so they could storm most of Europe unopposed. Had they conquered the USSR, I'm sure Hitler would have then turned on Japan.

Japan learned most of what it knows from the USA. Ever watch the Tom Cruise movie The Last Samurai? That takes place in the late 1800s where Japan was basically buying everything from the USA to try and industrialize rapidly. This is also why they become very militant and conquest-driven in the lead up to WW2. Japan possesses very little in the way of natural resources, particularly oil. They wanted it to industrialize rapidly but couldn't and so they decided to take it from the Chinese.
 
Originally posted by: polarmystery
Originally posted by: noonedoes
Originally posted by: polarmystery
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Japan looked to Germany for its model of government in the early 1900's. And they also copied their army from the German model, though they copied their navy from the British model.

As to the "alliance" there was not a wholesale exchange of industrial and war materials knowledge, except after the tide had turned, and surprisingly little until the very end.

Germany had always encouraged Japan to choose the 'northern strategy' which meant attacking Russia, but Japan chose the "southern strategy" to gain access to raw materials.

The few records about the "alliance" on the German side felt the Japanese were Germanies natural allies because their government was very much along the lines of Fascist. And while they considered all other races inferior, they saw the Japanese as the superiors of other oriental peoples.

Hitler is quoted as saying that even though he believed Europe was the center of power of the world and that the Japanese would rule the Orient, eventually there would be a clash and Germany would have to conquer the Japanese.

Hitlers racial fears were all about people "infesting" German and European society. He didn't see the Japanese as a threat to German racial purity.
 
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: polarmystery
Originally posted by: noonedoes
Originally posted by: polarmystery
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United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Peru...
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Republic Dominican, Cuba, Carribean, Greenland, El Salvador too.
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Click to expand...
:music:
Puerto Rico, Columbia, Venezuela,Honduras, Guyana, and still,
:music:
Click to expand...

:music:
Guatemala, Bolivia, then Argentina And Ecuador, Chile, Brazil.
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Originally posted by: crownjules
Originally posted by: Aflac
I don't think they were very strongly allied.

But it might have something to do with the Japanese learning a lot from the Germans during their Industrial Revolution? I always kinda figured Japan and Germany were kinda tight.
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More to do with common interests and Japan being located half way around the world so it served Germany's immediate purposes. Just like Germany allied with the USSR temporarily so they could storm most of Europe unopposed. Had they conquered the USSR, I'm sure Hitler would have then turned on Japan.

Japan learned most of what it knows from the USA. Ever watch the Tom Cruise movie The Last Samurai? That takes place in the late 1800s where Japan was basically buying everything from the USA to try and industrialize rapidly. This is also why they become very militant and conquest-driven in the lead up to WW2. Japan possesses very little in the way of natural resources, particularly oil. They wanted it to industrialize rapidly but couldn't and so they decided to take it from the Chinese.
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well sorta...after the us sorta barged in with a gunboat and forced it on em lol
 
Similar / Common Goals results in partnership regardless of what you believe in. Japan at the time were doing horrendous things to countries in Asia. Germany-Japan-Italy, the axis powers aka good car manufacturers. Also if you say all these things about pure race and why ally with impure Japan, then why would you even bring up anything to do with asian poon? Does that makes sense?
 
Honestly, I think it was almost purely an alliance of convience. Its not like either one of them were immediately planning on stealing the same stuff and given the US was of course going to enter the way eventually they may as well gang up on the faraway problem.

Also, isn't the Last Samurai mostly bullshit? I thought there almost no American advisors of any kind during the period in Japan. I figured that shit was just written into that movie so Tom Cruise didn't have to learn a German accent (a laziness he extended recently while playing an actual German) and so American audiences wouldn't be put in the difficult position of having to cheer for the "wrong" team.
 
The world was dealing with the worst recorded economic crisis of all time.
The governments of both countries wore both absolutely batshit insane and filled to the brim with fury.
The populations of both countries were filled with "holier than thou" attitudes and quite addicted to the insanity at the time.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Germany had many enemies, Japan had many enemies ... even though they had very few common enemies, they were both in a similar situation (trying to take over more of the world.)
Hitler was a real huge asshole, probably one of the biggest assholes who ever lived, but that doesn't mean he is the stupidest asshole ever. He knew that he needed some support in Asia.
HiroHito knew that he needed some allies as well ....

Even though HiroHito was not nearly as evil or psycho as Hitler, He still did not mesh well with pretty much the rest of the world, so his options were limited.
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
it doesn't make sense why he would choose the most impure looking (therefore inferiorest) race of them all.
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Ignorant OP is ignorant. Back in the late 19th / early 20th century, the Japanese were considered the "white people of Asia" because they tend to be slightly paler than most asians, typically have more facial hair, and especially because they were the only industrialized nation in east asia.
 
Originally posted by: polarmystery
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: polarmystery
Originally posted by: noonedoes
Originally posted by: polarmystery
:music:
United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Peru...
:music:
Click to expand...
:music:
Republic Dominican, Cuba, Carribean, Greenland, El Salvador too.
:music:
Click to expand...
:music:
Puerto Rico, Columbia, Venezuela,Honduras, Guyana, and still,
:music:
Click to expand...

:music:
Guatemala, Bolivia, then Argentina And Ecuador, Chile, Brazil.
:music:

:heart:
Click to expand...
:music:
Costa Rica, Belize, Nicaragua, Bermuda, Bahamas, Tobago, San Juan...
:music:

😉
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ok i think the rest of you just cheated and googled that because i only knew the first line or two at most 😛
 
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