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saymyname

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Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
Originally posted by: saymyname
Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
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Don't let money be the driving force. What do you like? What do you want to do for the next 50 years? You might change careers a few times but what do you at least plan on doing for the next 15 years? If you aren't sure then maybe you should do something so that you can find out. Job, internship, travel, general ed, etc.

what i really want to do is Open an online retail store just like newegg and i want to build a computer empire so people like us wont have to ever build another computer again, this empire will have all the same quality as building it your self and all the same options with out the hasel of actualy building it your self and it wont be expencive


Then you want a business degree and you want to learn a foriegn language like Chinese, Spanish, or one of the Indian languages. You're going to need cheap labor for something like that. The reason it's cheap for us to build computers is because we don't factor our time into the costs.
 

sygyzy

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Originally posted by: LeadMagnet
My company hires 50 CS majors every 2 months, they have to have a 3.5+ GPA from a big name tech university. I am always amazed how little they actually know about computers - outside of programing.

With that said I would say #2 at a university. An actual degree show employeers you can learn, are will to work, and stick to a commitment.

Sorry, your suggestion sounds a little counter intuitive to your problem. Most CS majors I know are programmers. That is what the computer science degree is. So you complain that most of them don't know much about computers yet you want to continue hiring people that are CS majors?
 

torpid

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#1 is a total joke. People who learn PHP and javascript and then call themselves programmers make me laugh. It's the equivalent of someone making finger paintings calling themselves an artist. Furthermore, even if #1 exists, if you go that route you are going to have a much, much harder time working on "real" programming tasks that involve true OOP than you will going from #2 to #1.
 

Sukhoi

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Just go to college and get a real degree you can get a job with, doing something you like. Forget about money. If your degree happens to provide a lot of money, great. Otherwise you can find things you like to do that don't cost as much.
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
What would you rather major in, in collage
1. PHP, Java Script, Excel and Macromedia Dreamwever

-or-

2. Computer Science and Software Engineere

Pick Either #1 or #2, if neither post what you would like to major in

#1 is not a major. if it was i wouldn't have the CS degree right now

if you're into money, pick neither. if you like web programming, #1, if you like tons of sleepless nights coding, pick #2

Well if your into money what should you pick?

Going into web development or software development for the money is a VERY BAD IDEA.

for money, do anything BUT computer or engineering related fields. seriously.
get an MBA or something
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: saymyname
Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
Originally posted by: saymyname
Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
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Don't let money be the driving force. What do you like? What do you want to do for the next 50 years? You might change careers a few times but what do you at least plan on doing for the next 15 years? If you aren't sure then maybe you should do something so that you can find out. Job, internship, travel, general ed, etc.

what i really want to do is Open an online retail store just like newegg and i want to build a computer empire so people like us wont have to ever build another computer again, this empire will have all the same quality as building it your self and all the same options with out the hasel of actualy building it your self and it wont be expencive


Then you want a business degree and you want to learn a foriegn language like Chinese, Spanish, or one of the Indian languages. You're going to need cheap labor for something like that. The reason it's cheap for us to build computers is because we don't factor our time into the costs.

Yep - both options 1 & 2 are completely irrelevent to what the OP wants to accomplish.
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
Originally posted by: saymyname
Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
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Don't let money be the driving force. What do you like? What do you want to do for the next 50 years? You might change careers a few times but what do you at least plan on doing for the next 15 years? If you aren't sure then maybe you should do something so that you can find out. Job, internship, travel, general ed, etc.

what i really want to do is Open an online retail store just like newegg and i want to build a computer empire so people like us wont have to ever build another computer again, this empire will have all the same quality as building it your self and all the same options with out the hasel of actualy building it your self and it wont be expencive

dell?
if you know anything about finance, you know it wont happen. custom building takes time, and time = money to a company. even the alienwares became another dell, now gobbled up by dell.

i agree with whoever that said that you should venture into finance or business. opening a retail or online store does not require computer science degree.
 

ofiraltarasy

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well what i've decided SO FAR is to get a Business degree and a Business Law degree and minor in CS and Finance
 

Tom

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Originally posted by: Lazy8s
Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
Originally posted by: saymyname
Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
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Don't let money be the driving force. What do you like? What do you want to do for the next 50 years? You might change careers a few times but what do you at least plan on doing for the next 15 years? If you aren't sure then maybe you should do something so that you can find out. Job, internship, travel, general ed, etc.

what i really want to do is Open an online retail store just like newegg and i want to build a computer empire so people like us wont have to ever build another computer again, this empire will have all the same quality as building it your self and all the same options with out the hasel of actualy building it your self and it wont be expencive

Major: Business or Finance
Minor: maybe CS, but probably a minor in whichever major you didn't pick

Seriously, how much do you need to know about how a processor works to run newegg? None, you need to know how to create product profitability charts and analyze cost curves.


Actually you need to know more about marketing(fancy word for sales) than anything. First thing you have to market is yourself, to the people who will do all of the other parts of the business for you, and to the people who will finance it, if you aren't rich already.

 

torpid

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Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
well what i've decided SO FAR is to get a Business degree and a Business Law degree and minor in CS and Finance

Throw in some language degrees too, like spanish, japanese, and chinese. Then you're set. See you at graduation in the year 2030
 

QED

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Originally posted by: EKKC
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for money, do anything BUT computer or engineering related fields. seriously.
get an MBA or something

Sorry, I have to disagree.

An MBA is about as valuable as toilet paper in a lot of places. I've never worked anywhere where having an MBA was any kind of a major career booster.
 

ofiraltarasy

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i may be drafted into the Israelie army and if i am drafted they pay for collage so ill go to the Technion (like the harvard of israel) and major in what i said in my previous post
 

ofiraltarasy

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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
well what i've decided SO FAR is to get a Business degree and a Business Law degree and minor in CS and Finance

Throw in some language degrees too, like spanish, japanese, and chinese. Then you're set. See you at graduation in the year 2030

i already speek fluent hebrew and i really really really dont have the patientce to learn another language
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: MathMan
Originally posted by: EKKC
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for money, do anything BUT computer or engineering related fields. seriously.
get an MBA or something

Sorry, I have to disagree.

An MBA is about as valuable as toilet paper in a lot of places. I've never worked anywhere where having an MBA was any kind of a major career booster.

i actually dont know much, but i know a CS degree won't just cut it. I learned nothing in my 3 years of accelerated CS degree. I was lucky to learn a lot myself and took a paid internship where I had a lot of freedom in learning the things I liked myself. i could've been better off with something other than a CS degree while learning what I did on the side. i've moved on from web programming to now a consultant building financial model and planning, i could've benefited with a finance or accounting degree.

a CS degree = 40k-55k when you graduate, the salary working up slowly unless you have management skills. that's why i just said MBA may help. but i may be wrong. I moved to consulting and now is almost making double what i was making while working as an IT analyst.
 

ForumMaster

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i say #2. actual experience is much more useful and with it, you can learn any of these languages pretty easily. i don't exactly know how you can major in javascript, since it's pretty easy, but PHP is fun. you can major in excel? and dreamweaver is webdesign? you can learn all of these on your own time. get #2.
 

ofiraltarasy

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What majors do you suggest i do for the profession i have chosen?(owning a site like newegg and/or building a computer empire so people like us wont have to build ever again)
 

QED

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Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
What majors do you suggest i do for the profession i have chosen?(owning a site like newegg and/or building a computer empire so people like us wont have to build ever again)

No offense, but I suggest a major in reality if you are stuck on the idea of trying to base a business around building computers for a tech literate clientele. Building computers for a non-techminded group is tough enough-- neigh, near impossible-- unless you have found someway to buy parts far cheaper than anyone else can and don't mind doing tech support for free for the next 5 years of your life.

 

ofiraltarasy

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its not for the Tech Illiterate its for people like us who know our way around computer and are tired of building them

well it can be for the tech illiterate as well, i mean look at dell
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
its not for the Tech Illiterate its for people like us who know our way around computer and are tired of building them

Which is called the tech literate, which is what MathMan said.
 

torpid

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I don't mean to be harsh but I think you really shouldn't base your major off some grand plan to become the next newegg. For every newegg, there are thousands of businesses that fail. You should base your major on the assumption that you will be working for someone, at least for 10 years or more. What you would want to do for the company you work for or what sort of company you would want to work for, how much enjoyment you would get, those are the things you should think about.
 

akubi

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Originally posted by: MathMan
Originally posted by: ofiraltarasy
What majors do you suggest i do for the profession i have chosen?(owning a site like newegg and/or building a computer empire so people like us wont have to build ever again)

No offense, but I suggest a major in reality .

oh snap. lmao. :laugh: