I need your help! Gift to the one who figures it out (Long read though).

UsandThem

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I am going nuts here, but here is what I had and what happened:

If anybody can figure it out, I will give them a free Phillips Accoustic Edge PCI sound card (not the best card in the world, but it is pretty decent)

Setup:
Windows XP Professional
AMD Athlon XP 1700+ (not overclocked)
Albatron KT400 motherboard
80 Gb Western Digital hard drive 7200 RPM (primary drive where Windows is installed)
40 Gb IBM hard drive (backup drive)
PNY Ti4400 AGP video card
512 Mb PC2100 DDR memory (2 X 256 Mb) (run at stock speed)
16X Lite-on DVD drive
52X Generic CD burner
350w Antec power supply
Antec case (plenty of space and airflow)

Computer had been flawless since put together (December 2002)

I come home from work one day, and wife complained that computer was freezing while she played The Sims. I first thought that she was playing for hours and that the PC might have got a little warm.

I get on and it starts freezing and giving shutdown messages of "Error, shutting down PC to prevent damage".

At this point, I can just restart it and after it fixes and deletes some files on the backup drive. It then gets to the point where it will not start. It states that Windows can't read some files and it is shutting down to prevent damage.

I then format my primary drive and try to re-install Windows XP. It won't install. It gets to the very end when it transfers the files and one random files (not the same file all the time) and states that file ****.dll cant be read and it is shutting down to prevent damage.

I then run chkdsk /p and /r on both drives. It does not come back and say there are any bad sectors.

Well, I figure the motherboard might be going out and it has been a while since I had upgrade. I order a Shuttle AN35n ultra (AMD nforce 2 chipset), 512 Mb (2 X 256) of PC-3200 ram, and a retail boxed AMD XP 2000+.

I install the new parts and it is doing the same thing. I then try to install Windows to the backup hard drive, and get the same problem. I try to install Windows from each CD drive. Same problem. I try a new power supply, and get the same problem.

I have tried both CD roms and hard drives together, one CD rom and one hard drive together (with the other unplugged) and I get the same problem. I even borrowed a CD-rom drive from a friend and tried it, but get the same problem.

I have also tried to install Windows 98se thinking that there could be a problem with the XP disc, but it won't install either.

I am pretty sure that my video card would not cause the above problems, so I am at a loss. My PC is also on a good quality surge protector and there have been no recent storms.

Odds of both hard drives dying at the same time would be slim to none, and if they are the problem why is chkdsk /p and /r coming back clean?

It seems that I have already wasted my money on the new parts and I can't afford to go and buy new items if they are not the problem.

Please post your thoughts on what could cause this.
 

Ionizer86

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Wow, that is so weird. Which parts were common to both setups aside from the vid card?

Have you ever overclocked your bus? If so, the PCI and AGP speeds would all mess up, possibly influencing some or all the drives as well.
 

BZ

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what parts of the system haven't you tried replacing yet?

you got a new mobo, new cpu, new ram, new powersupply.
have you tried installing the OS on the backup drive, or using a third drive?

I read something else like this and it was an incompatibility with the the webcam - suggesting it could be anything no matter how trivial that could cause an incompatibility.
 

MasterFlash

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I dunno. Maybe try reformatting your primary HDD again, and install it w/your new hardware, but just the minimum (mobo, cpu, ram, HDD, one CD drive) i.e. no PCI cards, no second HDD or CD drive. Make sure it posts and recognizes the HDD in Bios, change the boot sequence to select the CD drive before the HDD, then try to install windows off the CD. That should work. It doesn't make sense that the same problem occurs with your old comp & your new comp except that you are using the same HDDs... If this doesn't work, you could always try a new HDD... Good luck.
 

capricorn

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Originally posted by: JetBlack69
Originally posted by: vitalyzh
You might have a bad stick of ram.

With one Athlon system, I had a bad stick of RAM that was only ever so slightly bad. Played most games fine. Passed RAM tests. The only time it acted up was when I went to install Windows 2000 as a dual boot system (with Win 98 back when that was useful). When it got to the part where it was copying a bunch of small files, it would lock up and die every time. (The larger files copied fine; it was only the small files near the end.) It was still new and working with a tech support guy, we though it was a hard drive. They sent me a new one. No joy. Tried reseating every cable and card. Nada. The very last thing we were going to try before I packed it up and sent it back is the RAM. Took out one of the two sticks and the problem disappeared. Swapped the other one back in and the problem was back. They sent a replacement stick of RAM, and it's been fine ever since. Moral of the story: Misbehaving RAM can seem to be a completely different problem. At the time, I was willing to bet it was a hard disk error. If you have multiple sticks of RAM (and they don't have to be installed in pairs), try one and then the other and see what happens. Just removing them and putting them back in has been known to fix some problems (from corrosion on the lead, the RAM having worked up out of the socket from the M/B heating up and cooling down.

That's my guess.

-cap
 

MDE

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Unplug everything but the bare essentials (keyboard, hard drive, cd rom, RAM, CPU, etc.) and try to install XP again. If not, try swapping out parts, (video card, RAM, CPU, IDE cables, etc.) and give it another go. If THAT doesn't work drop it out of a window (or just give it to me :)) Good luck, hope you get it working!