I need to rant for a bit-public school rant

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: allisolm
Let me get this straight - you lied to the school district so that your child could attend a school outside his own district that other children had to either live in the actual district or follow the School of Choice procedures to attend.

Now you can no longer lie and have found out that people who actually live in the area or have followed the rules are hogging all the slots.

Then you want the schools to abandon their rules because your child has a physical problem. After all, there must not be any other children in the area with problems that must be accomodated besides yours so why should you be inconvenienced?

I'm sorry for your child. Sorry that he has to go through this. Sorry that doing it your way is coming back to bite him on the ass rather than you.

"I want someone I can call and b!tch out for a while over this." I think you need to start with your own number.

agreed, WTH is your problem? are you paying property taxes to pay for your kids education? NO!

All public schools are equally worthless. The only thing that "nice schools" have that crappy ones dont are lower crime rates and less diversity. Let your kid grow up in a sterile environment, then see how well he copes with life. :|

You are doing him a massive disservice and setting a poor example of integrity. Deal with it.

 

[AmitPatel]

Originally posted by: allisolm
Let me get this straight - you lied to the school district so that your child could attend a school outside his own district that other children had to either live in the actual district or follow the School of Choice procedures to attend.

Now you can no longer lie and have found out that people who actually live in the area or have followed the rules are hogging all the slots.

Then you want the schools to abandon their rules because your child has a physical problem. After all, there must not be any other children in the area with problems that must be accomodated besides yours so why should you be inconvenienced?

I'm sorry for your child. Sorry that he has to go through this. Sorry that doing it your way is coming back to bite him on the ass rather than you.

"I want someone I can call and b!tch out for a while over this." I think you need to start with your own number.

I agree with you 100%.

 

[AmitPatel]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Why TF is he having to move from his current school?
Seems the US system is retarded.
If a kid is in a school, he should be in that school until he moves on to the next school (graduates or whatever), unless he moves to a different area to far to get to that school and the parents choose to enroll him/her in a new school.

If you read what GoodDad was saying, he lied about where his kid lived to get into the good school because he lived too far away to be in that school's district. And now that he doesn't have an address in the good school district to say that his kid lives, he's going to have to send his kid to the school in his district where he should have going all along.

So you are right in that "he should be in that school until he moves on to the next school (graduates or whatever), unless he moves to a different area" and that would be true if he went to the right school in the district which he lived. If you move, you have to go to the school in your new area. No choice to keep going to the old school. But they do have an option to do just that in Michigan, but there are no spots for his kid.

 

[clamum]

Damn people must have gone to some crappy schools to say that public schools suck. The one I went to was fine and prepared me decently well for college.

 

[slick230]

I wouldn't want my property taxes going to pay for the education of some scammer's kid. I feel sorry your kid has an idiot lying scammer for a parent, but you made this mess, so too fvcking bad.

 

[Schadenfroh]

my public school did not suck...

it sucked ass

 

[anno]

this is why I have to show up with 3 forms of ID including my property tax bill and a untility bill in my name mailed to my alleged address when I go to register my child every year, I guess..

we're only allowed to do school of choice within district, here.. and run into the same capacity issues you're running in to.

I think that's probably a good thing.. I live where I live because of the schools and pay higher property taxes than most districts because of the schools and really don't want to be paying those taxes to educate the kids of people who choose to live elsewhere and pay less.

anno

 

[rudeguy]

sorry I havent posted, had to run to the grocery store.

Let me clear a few things up. My son's mom lived with her dad (his grandpa) until the middle of this year. She moved and we just kept using the old address. We didnt scam anyone. His school was well aware the his mom had moved. They just "forgot" to process the paperwork.

The way schools work around here is that the school gets X number of dollars per student, no matter how affluent the area. It used to be that the schools got a percentage of the property taxes or something like that, but they decided that was unfair for the not so nice schools.

I am not trying to cheat to get him to a better school. I am not worried about the class of the school he goes to. I just dont want his health to suffer any more.

 

[MrCodeDude]

Hey, screw you buddy. For me to go to a better HS, I've had to take a class and pretty much waste a period a day going to a pointless "filler" class. It's called magnet over here.

The thing is, your son should not have been going to the school in the first place (unless he lives with the grandfather), the fact that you're now in the process of getting caught is you getting caught in your own lie. You have no footing to rant.

So yeah, screw you.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Hey, screw you buddy. For me to go to a better HS, I've had to take a class and pretty much waste a period a day going to a pointless "filler" class. It's called magnet over here.

The thing is, your son should not have been going to the school in the first place (unless he lives with the grandfather), the fact that you're now in the process of getting caught is you getting caught in your own lie. You have no footing to rant.

So yeah, screw you.

Looks like that public education is working well for you. You will go places in life with that attitude.

My son was living in the district until the middle of the year. His school wanted him to stay there, and we wanted him to stay too. We could lie and still use his grandpa's address and no one would know or care, but we are honest.

I can see why you had to jump through hoops to go to a certain school, I would try to keep your ass out too.

My son's school and his doctors all agree that it is best that he stay going there. Its not just me being selfish.

 

[imported_Tomato]

Which school?

I went to Rochester Adams High School... great public HS, almost better than my college education.

 

[allisolm]

Sorry but "My son was living in the district until the middle of the year " is not the same as "we have been using his grandpa's address so he could attend that school" no matter how you slice it.

 

Anyways, we have been using his grandpa's address so he could attend that school, but now his grandpa is moving.

So, you cheated the system to get what you want. Does the school know this, or did you leave out that detail?
Now that your little trick is drying up, you're getting mad?
Excellent.

I feel for ya, but most likely you're going to lose this battle.

 

[shopbruin]

people this is NOT uncommon especially for "better" districts. why? because my parents did the same thing. my aunt moved out of the district, and my sister wanted to stay at that high school. she wound up having to beg the two districts to give her the transfer, saying she was an "asset" to the school through her sports, grades and active community participation.

if his son did live with his mom who was in that district, then he should have stayed. if she moved halfway through the year, then the paperwork was to be processed. some districts will be lenient about letting you at least finish the year, and possibly stay depending on how much time they have left in the school.

parents wanting the best for their children, who'd have thunk it.

i probably would have done fine at either school, my parents weren't thrilled with their test scores in the 40th percentile, the "gang" violence and the shooting that happened there, but like always there are stellar students at every school. i wound up being involved in everything and not "sucking up their resources." I believed in the entire "making the school a better place" spiel while i was there.

anyways gooddad, start being a pest about it if you want the paperwork to go through. my sister's transfer didn't go through until halfway through the summer before she was to start this school year. this was after a really rude school official berated her to her face, calling her and my brother liars when it wasn't their choice in the first place to go to that school, my parents said so. i still hate that woman. and she keeps making snide remarks even though the transfer went through. if i so can get her fired i would. you will have to make a compelling argument, and health should be fine. my sister had teachers and community members trying to help her transfer along as much as possible.

 

[cquark]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
[agreed, WTH is your problem? are you paying property taxes to pay for your kids education? NO!

Property taxes aren't a fee you pay for education. I've paid them for decades, and I don't have any kids to educate.

The property tax system is one of the most wasteful and inequitable means to fund education that anyone's ever attempted. My property taxes go up every year because I live in a good school district, which attracts yuppies with new kids to move in every year, requiring the school district to continually build new schools. But the number of students on a state-wide basis hasn't changed, as my state has essentially zero population growth and the average age is fairly high, so there's no general need for new school buildings. However, schools in good repair keep getting closed and new ones being built because people are chasing the better school districts. It's a stupid waste of money.

Let's get rid of the property tax system and fund schools with the state income tax. We do it with other public services like roads. It would save money and create a more equitable system.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Anyways, we have been using his grandpa's address so he could attend that school, but now his grandpa is moving.

So, you cheated the system to get what you want. Does the school know this, or did you leave out that detail?
Now that your little trick is drying up, you're getting mad?
Excellent.

I feel for ya, but most likely you're going to lose this battle.

actually, I updated the thread about 30 posts in. His mom was living with his granpa inside the district until about half way through the year. The school knew he moved, the just didnt process any of the paperwork since we wanted to stay. The way it was explained to us was that with the school of choice option it was no big deal. All we had to do was fill out the paperwork before the beginning of next year. I did that and then learned how the system really works.

His school wants him back knowing he lives out of district. We have to get the school that has "rights" to him to sign off.

 

Ouch, got burnt by the system.

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: tec699

Originally posted by: TallBill
Public schools suck.. period.

Maybe it's because most public school teachers get paid squat.

LINK

The latest statistics put the average teacher's salary at about $46,000; some teachers earn a little more, some a little less (the average teacher's salary?not the starting salary?is $38,000 in Kansas, $36,000 in New Mexico, and $32,000 in South Dakota). Overall, that's about the same that we pay pile-driver operators ($45,980) and about $8,000 less than the average elevator repairman pulls down. Meanwhile, a San Francisco dockworker makes about $115,000, while the clerk who logs shipping records into the longshoreman's computer makes $136,000.

That seems OK. $46k is fine for a teacher, IMO.

As mentioned, a resourceful high school drop-out can make more. It is NOT fine.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: tec699

Originally posted by: TallBill
Public schools suck.. period.

Maybe it's because most public school teachers get paid squat.

LINK

The latest statistics put the average teacher's salary at about $46,000; some teachers earn a little more, some a little less (the average teacher's salary?not the starting salary?is $38,000 in Kansas, $36,000 in New Mexico, and $32,000 in South Dakota). Overall, that's about the same that we pay pile-driver operators ($45,980) and about $8,000 less than the average elevator repairman pulls down. Meanwhile, a San Francisco dockworker makes about $115,000, while the clerk who logs shipping records into the longshoreman's computer makes $136,000.

That seems OK. $46k is fine for a teacher, IMO.

As mentioned, a resourceful high school drop-out can make more. It is NOT fine.

I am actually proof of that.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: tec699

Originally posted by: TallBill
Public schools suck.. period.

Maybe it's because most public school teachers get paid squat.

the thing is... private school teachers often get paid worse and with less benefits, since they're mostly non-unionized.

I went to prep school, and we often made fun of the teachers because of how little they got paid

 

[nageov3t]

to the OP... I understand your frustration, but also consider that there are probably a ton of other parents trying to do the exact same thing. if the school let everyone in who wanted to go there, it would stop being such a good school (more students -> more behavior problems -> teachers stop being teachers and start being police officers).

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: loki8481
to the OP... I understand your frustration, but also consider that there are probably a ton of other parents trying to do the exact same thing. if the school let everyone in who wanted to go there, it would stop being such a good school (more students -> more behavior problems -> teachers stop being teachers and start being police officers).

thats where parents like me come in. I volunteer to go in and help out with my son's class. I also go on all field trips/special events.

The amount that the so called governor here has cut education is out of control, so us parents have to pitch in.

 

[rudeguy]

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[dquan97]

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