I need to put on weight

[Ikonomi]

Originally posted by: skypilot

Originally posted by: Ikonomi
I guess my philosophy is a bit different. Looking at this jar of peanut butter, the serving size is 2 Tbsp (32 grams), and each serving contains 16g of fat, 6g carbs, and 8g protein.

I just ate a Sargento string cheese stick for a quick snack (28g serving size), and while it only had 80 calories, it also only contained 6g of fat, and 8g of protein, the same as the peanut butter. So, if I wasn't concerned with fat, I could eat just over 4 pieces of cheese to get the same calories, but a much higher amount of protein.

My idea is that fat is useless, and putting on weight means building muscle. To do that, you need protein, and so I try to find foods that have a high percentage of calories from protein. Cheese sticks aren't a great example of that, but it's what I had handy. Lean meats, however, are your best friend for protein, period. Basically, I try to stay away from foods that have empty calories (sodas, cookies, candies) and foods that get most of their calories from fat (mayonnaise, salad dressing, oils, chips). Instead of soda, I drink water, because hydration is also essential for a healthy body. Instead of chips or cookies for a snack, I eat fruit. I don't avoid these less-than-healthy foods entirely, as a salad without dressing is kind of boring, but when I do use them, I use them sparingly.

You all need to educate yourselves. Fat is almost as good as carbs at fueling your body while protein helps you build muscle. You need to take in more calories than you consume in order to gain mass, and fat is the most efficient way to get those calories, as it contains 9 calories per gram. Without some significant amount of fat (unsaturated) calories, it is almost impossible to gait weight.

There's a difference between gaining muscle mass and gaining fat, which is what some people in this thread are talking about. My point is that eating calories to gain fat weight is useless, and eating a high protein diet will absolutely ensure that you're getting a significant amount of fat to burn as well without eating foods that are primarily fat.

 

[Legend]

eggs? high cholesterol.

Dietary cholesterol has very little impact on your blood's cholesterol.

Where most people get excess cholesterol is by eating too many processed carbs. You're liver then manufactures cholesterol.

 

[Legend]

There's a difference between gaining muscle mass and gaining fat, which is what some people in this thread are talking about. My point is that eating calories to gain fat weight is useless, and eating a high protein diet will absolutely ensure that you're getting a significant amount of fat to burn as well without eating foods that are primarily fat.

Jesus...the mass media has competely brainwashed people with lies.

Calories is just a #. It's one of several components. You need to understand that the calories from nuts are slowly released into your body and they are completely fine.

Eating fat doesn not make you fat. The monosaturated omega6 and omega 3 fats from nuts are extremely good for you. They increase brain and cardiovascular health. Strengthen cell membranes to protect you from disease and aging. It is released slowly into your body, and generally won't make you fat. You'll feel full longer after eating nuts.

Cholesterol and body fat comes primarily from processed carbohydrates. I'm not advocating Atkin's diet here. I'm saying that carbs from white flour, sugar, etc are extremely unhealthy for you. They create body fat, increase cholesterol and make you hungry all the time.

You want to get your carbs from fruits, vegetables, and whole grains.

 

[Landroval]

Originally posted by: Ikonomi

Originally posted by: skypilot

Originally posted by: Ikonomi
I guess my philosophy is a bit different. Looking at this jar of peanut butter, the serving size is 2 Tbsp (32 grams), and each serving contains 16g of fat, 6g carbs, and 8g protein.

I just ate a Sargento string cheese stick for a quick snack (28g serving size), and while it only had 80 calories, it also only contained 6g of fat, and 8g of protein, the same as the peanut butter. So, if I wasn't concerned with fat, I could eat just over 4 pieces of cheese to get the same calories, but a much higher amount of protein.

My idea is that fat is useless, and putting on weight means building muscle. To do that, you need protein, and so I try to find foods that have a high percentage of calories from protein. Cheese sticks aren't a great example of that, but it's what I had handy. Lean meats, however, are your best friend for protein, period. Basically, I try to stay away from foods that have empty calories (sodas, cookies, candies) and foods that get most of their calories from fat (mayonnaise, salad dressing, oils, chips). Instead of soda, I drink water, because hydration is also essential for a healthy body. Instead of chips or cookies for a snack, I eat fruit. I don't avoid these less-than-healthy foods entirely, as a salad without dressing is kind of boring, but when I do use them, I use them sparingly.

You all need to educate yourselves. Fat is almost as good as carbs at fueling your body while protein helps you build muscle. You need to take in more calories than you consume in order to gain mass, and fat is the most efficient way to get those calories, as it contains 9 calories per gram. Without some significant amount of fat (unsaturated) calories, it is almost impossible to gait weight.

There's a difference between gaining muscle mass and gaining fat, which is what some people in this thread are talking about. My point is that eating calories to gain fat weight is useless, and eating a high protein diet will absolutely ensure that you're getting a significant amount of fat to burn as well without eating foods that are primarily fat.

Eating healthy fats in moderation won't make you fat. In fact, your body requires them.

 

[Legend]

Yeah, and just about everyone in America has an extreme deficit of omega 3 fats. I think it's why we have all of these brain function disorders (ADD, allergies, depression, etc).

If you look up DHA, a type of omega 3 fat, you'll find that research is already showing that consuming it during pregnancy decreases the risk of allergies and ADD in babies, and depression for the mothers. DHA is in breast milk. It's not in cow's milk because cows don't need the mental growth that DHA can provide.

Go eat some walnuts, they're good for you.

 

[Legend]

Now to the OP, I'm trying to understand what your goal is.

Muscle gain, fat gain or both?

If you're trying to gain muscle, just eat plenty of lean meats, nuts and whey protein. But still eat veg, fruits and whole grains because you're body needs it all.

If you're trying to gain fat in a healthy way, I'd guess binge eat fruits like grapes.

 

[Ikonomi]

Originally posted by: Legend

There's a difference between gaining muscle mass and gaining fat, which is what some people in this thread are talking about. My point is that eating calories to gain fat weight is useless, and eating a high protein diet will absolutely ensure that you're getting a significant amount of fat to burn as well without eating foods that are primarily fat.

Jesus...the mass media has competely brainwashed people with lies.

Calories is just a #. It's one of several components. You need to understand that the calories from nuts are slowly released into your body and they are completely fine.

Eating fat doesn not make you fat. The monosaturated omega6 and omega 3 fats from nuts are extremely good for you. They increase brain and cardiovascular health. Strengthen cell membranes to protect you from disease and aging. It is released slowly into your body, and generally won't make you fat. You'll feel full longer after eating nuts.

Cholesterol and body fat comes primarily from processed carbohydrates. I'm not advocating Atkin's diet here. I'm saying that carbs from white flour, sugar, etc are extremely unhealthy for you. They create body fat, increase cholesterol and make you hungry all the time.

You want to get your carbs from fruits, vegetables, and whole grains.

I guess I didn't make my point well enough.

I never said that eating fat made you fat. I was talking about gaining muscle, not about the benefits of different fats, which is good information I didn't know anyway. I was trying to give advice on what to eat to gain muscle, to counteract those who came into this thread talking about wanting to gain 10 pounds of fat before starting working out again, and those who believe there are no healthy snacks. I believe I'm the only one in this thread who advocated eating fruits and vegetables as part of a bulking diet.

Just trying to help, but I think what I said got lost in translation.

 

[Legend]

Oh, okay. Sorry then.

Yea, he shouldn't eat twinkies and stuff.

 

[Ikonomi]

Originally posted by: Legend
Oh, okay. Sorry then.

Yea, he shouldn't eat twinkies and stuff.

I wasn't looking for an apology. You posted good info.

I just felt I had to clarify myself before I get made into the bad guy.

 

[biostud]

when you're stuffed squeeze in that extra portion.

 

[pmoa]

beer and burger King will get your weight up!

 

[dadeef]

i avoid any processed BS (including protein shakes). Hard boiled eggs and leafy greens man.

 

[Cattlegod]

donuts and bacon

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

I eat babies. You could try natural pb or flax seed oil. That's like 210 calories for 2TBSP of pb and 130 for 1TBSP flax. Oatmeal is pretty good too. It microwaves really fast.

 

[pennylane]

Dr. Nick: Hi everybody!
Homer+Bart: Hi Doctor Nick!
Dr. Nick: Now there are many options available for dangerously underweighted individuals like yourself. I recommend a slow steady gorging process combined with assal horizontology.
Homer: [pensive] Of course.
Dr. Nick: [points to a chart] You'll want to focus on the neglected food groups such as the hipped group, the congealed group and the chocotastic!
Homer: What can I do to speed the whole thing up, Doctor?
Dr. Nick: Well...be creative. Instead of making sandwiches with bread, use poptarts. Instead of chewing gum, chew bacon, heh...
Bart: You could brush your teeth with milkshakes!
Dr. Nick: Hey, did you go to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College too? And remember, if you're not sure about something, rub it against a piece of paper. If the paper turns clear, it's your window to weight gain. Bye bye, everybody!

 

[Malfeas]

peanut butter

 

[desteffy]

eat lots of eggs

 

[jiggahertz]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort
I WAS a work out nut, i just was not getting bigger. I was pissed. I decided that for best results i would need to stop working out and start gaining fat. Im now 180 pounds. I want to hit 190 before i start lifting agian, but i'd reccomend just eating tons and working out very little for a while.

Wow, that has to be the worst advice ever. Fat doesn't turn into muscle.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Ikonomi


My idea is that fat is useless, and putting on weight means building muscle..

That's the problem. Fat isn't useless.

 

[Legend]

Well for us men I don't think there's any pratical purpose of > 5-10% body fat. Unless you're in some sort of cold climate without food or something.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

Newsflash! You're going to be gaining fat along with muscle during a mass gaining cycle.

 

[jadinolf]

Follow me around. I don't seem to have any problem gaining weight.

 

[bluesartist]

Originally posted by: yankeesfan
I am working out daily, taking protein shakes afterwards. However, I'd like to put on some weight as well. I don't think my calorie intake is high enough (actually, I know it isn't) to put on bulk. So, I am looking for high calorie, healthy, easy to prepare breakfast, lunch, and snack foods. What would this include? What foods should I avoid?

mix 3 eggs, broccoli, cheddar cheese together, throw it in the micro, eat that for breakfast. Drink lots of milk.

for lunch eat a big ass meaty sub

 

[Landroval]

Originally posted by: Legend
Well for us men I don't think there's any pratical purpose of > 5-10% body fat. Unless you're in some sort of cold climate without food or something.

To achieve or maintain 5-10% bodyfat, you'll need to consume a lot of dietary fat.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: biostud
when you're stuffed squeeze in that extra portion.

I've tried that, doesn't work. In fact, it makes me lose weight. I don't understand it, but I just see what the scale says :/