I need info on Penryn Core 2 Quads

[Cheex]

Title says it all.

 

[firewolfsm]

Go to google, and search "1333 FSB quads"

You'll be amazed at how fast you find what you need when you don't rely on other people to tell you.

 

[Lonyo]

There's also all sorts of info you might need. We have no idea what it is you want though.
Clockspeeds?
Pricing?
Mobo support?
Release dates?
Performance differences vs 1066MHz FSB chips?

 

[StopSign]

Originally posted by: Cheex
Title says it all.

No it doesn't.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: StopSign

Originally posted by: Cheex
Title says it all.

No it doesn't.

My bad guys.

Originally posted by: Lonyo
There's also all sorts of info you might need. We have no idea what it is you want though.
Clockspeeds?
Pricing?
Mobo support?
Release dates?
Performance differences vs 1066MHz FSB chips?

I wanted some info mostly about release dates and pricing. Clockspeeds are negligible because I will OC it anyway.

Sorry if this was a repost.

 

[Cheex]

Maybe I also asked the wrong question...

(1) When will the 45nm Penryn Quads be available and what will the prices be like?
(2) Which processor would be the "best" upgrade for me until the Penryn Quads?

 

[Ika]

1) No one knows much about 45nm Penryn Quads because frankly, no one's said much about them (Intel included).
2) Some people suggest getting a cheap C2D such as the E4400 to tide yourself over until Penryn, and that's the plan I'm taking. The performance difference between the E4x00s and the E6x00s isn't that great; the only problem is the E4x00s seem to hit an FSB wall pretty early (meaning a fairly low max-OC).

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Aflac
1) No one knows much about 45nm Penryn Quads because frankly, no one's said much about them (Intel included).
2) Some people suggest getting a cheap C2D such as the E4400 to tide yourself over until Penryn, and that's the plan I'm taking. The performance difference between the E4x00s and the E6x00s isn't that great; the only problem is the E4x00s seem to hit an FSB wall pretty early (meaning a fairly low max-OC).

If you call faster than the flagship product a "low OC"

3.0-3.2ghz is typical for E4300, upgraded cooling is suggested though, they put a lot more heat with a voltage bump, and while they will clock to 3.2ghz, they will overheat and throttle on the stock cooling.

 

[Cheex]

Keep in mind that I already have an E6300 @ 3.01 - 3.15 GHz.

I just wanted an upgrade to one of those with the 4MB cache. The Q6600 is also tempting for me but may be out of my reach.
So which do I get?

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Cheex
Keep in mind that I already have an E6300 @ 3.01 - 3.15 GHz.

I just wanted an upgrade to one of those with the 4MB cache. The Q6600 is also tempting for me but may be out of my reach.
So which do I get?

I honestly wouldnt upgrade until a worthwhile quad is out at a reasonable price.

$266 Q6600s arent far away.

 

[Cheex]

I know they are coming soon. The question is...Should I try to get a G0 Q6600 or should I get an E6420/6600 until I can get a Penryn Quad?

 

[Nathelion]

Well... How thick is your pocketbook? That's what it boils down to.

 

[NoSoup4You]

Sounds like you should have simply invested that money into an 8800GTX instead of your GTS 320MB. The cash you're looking to dole out for a new processor is going net you almost nothing in games, unless of course you have other reasons for upgrading.

 

[Skott]

If you are a gamer you are probably better off waiting for Penryn later this Fall/Winter when they release. You'd be wasting money buying a quad in July and then again in 3 months or so. Dualcores are still better for gaming at this time because only a game or two take advantage of quadcore and thats why I say that. Quads really wont come into mainstrem until next year IMO. One reason is because developers dont have many games yet for them nor wont till next year for the most part. Other reason is because quads are in their infancy and not yet perfected. Better ones (Like Penryn will come). Now if you are into photo editing, rendering, etc., or just the kind that has alot of cash and likes to buy new stuff all the time I'd say buy the Q6600 July 22nd.

If you decide to wait for Penryn and want to get a dualcore now to tide you over. What do you get? Well, that depends on how cheap you wanna go and if you want to OC or not. If you want to OC then get E4300 and OC it and then when Penryn hits the stores upgrade to quad. If you dont like OCing then get the dualcore that has the highest clock speed you can afford. Although I dont think you'll need anything more than a stock 2.4GHz chip (E6600 or its replacement) for the rest of this year till Penryn shows up. That OCed E6300 should do you well enough till Penryn shows up. If you cant game on 3GHz you got a problem somewhere.

 

[Cheex]

Most of what you said I already know but you did make some good points. Honestly, I'm strapped for cash but there is just so much I want.

The CPU upgrade I am talking about might be a "free" upgrade but it can't be all that more expensive than my E6300. That is why I was thinking of the E6420 or the E6600.
If the E6750 comes out and is available quickly, then that may be that way to go for me.

Your comment about the GTX...That would have been lovely but I needed to upgrade from my X850XT so I had to pull the trigger at the time and that was all I could afford.

Next up, I have a memory upgrade dilemma and I also want a new monitor (oh, I also need a new cell phone).

I guess I should be prioritizing and getting the most important first and so on...I think they should be as follows:

(1) Memory upgrade
(2) Cell phone
(3) New Monitor
(4) P35 Motherboard
(5) CPU upgrade

So, in truth, maybe I am jumping the gun but then again, maybe I just need some guidance.

Thanks a lot ATers!!

 

[Ika]

Now that I see you have a 6300, I think you should probably wait a really long time before upgrading. It would be a lot better if you already have a P35 motherboard, but since you don't, I think you should wait to see if quad cores are really all that useful (this will probably mean Penryn quads). At this point, a dual-core will serve most people's purposes just fine, and if you're strapped for cash, the upgrade isn't really necessary (unless you absolutely know you need the two extra cores).

I agree that the first thing you should upgrade would definitely be the memory, though. Get yourself another 1gb stick.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Aflac
1) No one knows much about 45nm Penryn Quads because frankly, no one's said much about them (Intel included).
2) Some people suggest getting a cheap C2D such as the E4400 to tide yourself over until Penryn, and that's the plan I'm taking. The performance difference between the E4x00s and the E6x00s isn't that great; the only problem is the E4x00s seem to hit an FSB wall pretty early (meaning a fairly low max-OC).

If you call faster than the flagship product a "low OC"

3.0-3.2ghz is typical for E4300, upgraded cooling is suggested though, they put a lot more heat with a voltage bump, and while they will clock to 3.2ghz, they will overheat and throttle on the stock cooling.

I could only get 2.9 out of my 4300, and many like me couldn;t get to 3 ghz. I don't know where you got that "fact" from.

Edit: The same motherboard, memory, PSU and cooling solution is now powering a Q6600 to 3.2

 

[Ichigo]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Aflac
1) No one knows much about 45nm Penryn Quads because frankly, no one's said much about them (Intel included).
2) Some people suggest getting a cheap C2D such as the E4400 to tide yourself over until Penryn, and that's the plan I'm taking. The performance difference between the E4x00s and the E6x00s isn't that great; the only problem is the E4x00s seem to hit an FSB wall pretty early (meaning a fairly low max-OC).

If you call faster than the flagship product a "low OC"

3.0-3.2ghz is typical for E4300, upgraded cooling is suggested though, they put a lot more heat with a voltage bump, and while they will clock to 3.2ghz, they will overheat and throttle on the stock cooling.

I could only get 2.9 out of my 4300, and many like me couldn;t get to 3 ghz. I don't know where you got that "fact" from.

Edit: The same motherboard, memory, PSU and cooling solution is now powering a Q6600 to 3.2

You got a bad chip. Duh. -_-

To the TC, upgrade your GPU first along with the monitor. Those will net you the most noticeable gains.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Aflac
1) No one knows much about 45nm Penryn Quads because frankly, no one's said much about them (Intel included).
2) Some people suggest getting a cheap C2D such as the E4400 to tide yourself over until Penryn, and that's the plan I'm taking. The performance difference between the E4x00s and the E6x00s isn't that great; the only problem is the E4x00s seem to hit an FSB wall pretty early (meaning a fairly low max-OC).

If you call faster than the flagship product a "low OC"

3.0-3.2ghz is typical for E4300, upgraded cooling is suggested though, they put a lot more heat with a voltage bump, and while they will clock to 3.2ghz, they will overheat and throttle on the stock cooling.

I could only get 2.9 out of my 4300, and many like me couldn;t get to 3 ghz. I don't know where you got that "fact" from.

Edit: The same motherboard, memory, PSU and cooling solution is now powering a Q6600 to 3.2

Odd, i was speaking from personal experience. 3 E4300s over 3ghz, 0 under. Of course thats a small sample pool