i need help with MAC address spoofing

dionx

Diamond Member
Mar 11, 2001
3,500
1
81
on my school network, they require registration of any network device connected to the network in order to use internet services on the computer. well this registration automatically is the first page when you open a web browser for the first time. it identifies the MAC address and is already part of the registration form. i bought the network adaptor for my PS2 but i can not get online gaming to work unless i register the MAC address of the PS2 network adaptor, but without a built-in online browser for the PS2, i cannot do this on the PS2 itself.

i found the MAC address of the PS2 network adaptor, but can someone please tell me how to take MAC address of the PS2 network adaptor and spoof it on my computer's NIC??? once that MAC address is registered, i would like to return it to the original computer's MAC address.



BTW, i'm using windows XP and my NIC is a Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast Ethernet Adaptor.
 

SaigonK

Diamond Member
Aug 13, 2001
7,482
3
0
www.robertrivas.com
This isnt legal in the first place...call the IT department of your school..plain and simple.
Second read the forum rules, this type of post is sure to get locked.
 

alrox

Member
Nov 17, 2002
175
0
0
There's nothing illegal about changing the MAC address a NIC responds to, and it probably isn't against school policy either. It's usually done under the NIC properties under Advanced Settings. Look for MAC address or locally administered address prompts.
 

dionx

Diamond Member
Mar 11, 2001
3,500
1
81
Originally posted by: SaigonK
This isnt legal in the first place...call the IT department of your school..plain and simple.
Second read the forum rules, this type of post is sure to get locked.

i'm having trouble finding the forum rules. can someone please post me a link and tell me where it says this.
 

dionx

Diamond Member
Mar 11, 2001
3,500
1
81
Originally posted by: alrox
There's nothing illegal about changing the MAC address a NIC responds to, and it probably isn't against school policy either. It's usually done under the NIC properties under Advanced Settings. Look for MAC address or locally administered address prompts.

here is my schools policy link. i dont see anywhere about MAC spoofing, just that it cant be all zeros.
 

JackMDS

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Oct 25, 1999
29,553
430
126
Great the school supports PS2.

I want to take this course too.

What class has the PS2 on the curriculum?
 

rc240sx

Member
Nov 14, 2002
27
0
0
As of the late 80's, MAC addresses were burned into NIC cards so changing a MAC address would be like changing a song on an audio CDR.
 

SaigonK

Diamond Member
Aug 13, 2001
7,482
3
0
www.robertrivas.com
In recent posts regarding any type of hacking or spoofing, it was clearly noted that questions of this nature were not acceptable.

Second your best bet is to check with your school IT department on wether you can spoof the address.
Frankly if they have MAC address restriction in place, that should tell you that they only want specific systems on the LAN and that they are trying to prevent exactly what you are trying to do.
Regardless of wether it is in your school policy or not, the rules can change on you quickly, saying "well it wasn?t there" or "I didn?t know" wont cut it.
Ignorance or non-informed assumptions are no excuse.
Check with them...they will tell you the real deal...
 

SaigonK

Diamond Member
Aug 13, 2001
7,482
3
0
www.robertrivas.com
And a direct quote:

"Additionally, users may not mask the hardware address of their machines. Any computer that is found with a hardware address consisting of all zeros will be disconnected until it is reconfigured."

I would say that is clear enough....you may NOT mask the hardware address of a machine connected to the lan...so if you spooof your PS2 into looking like your PC, you are in fact breaking the rules....
The second part of the statement is a specific incident, it doesnt seem to apply to the general rule stated in the first line.


Also


<U>P.07-02 Registration </U>
<U>Every computer attached to any part of the IntIrVine must be properly registered with Residential Network Services. If your computer is not properly registered, it may be disconnected at any time without notice. Registration is a process where a new user will automatically be directed to a registration page. You must have your UCINetID, Password and Student ID Number ready PRIOR to registration. If you register with anything other than your UCINetID you will not be allowed to register. If you do not have a UCINetID, you must contact NACS to activate your account or obtain a guest account. Please have the following information ready prior to registering:


</U>
You are responsible for registering EVERY system you put on the lan..it doesnt matter that it is a PS2, it cleary states you HAVE to register it.
And another policy statement form your school:
Dont try the "well it isnt very clear" loophole. Your policy CLEARLY states that ignorance is no excuse.

<U>P.07-01 Responsibility</U>
Users are responsible for all traffic originating from their computer, including user activity, regardless of whether or not:
1. They generated it;
2. They know what they are doing, and;
3. They realize that they have violated any specific policies.

In most cases, unintentional violations will result in a temporary loss of connectivity pending the resolution of the problem and education of the user. Repeat violations may result in a longer term or permanent loss of connectivity. In some cases, especially those in which the UCI Computer Use Policy has been violated, further action may be taken.
 

stash

Diamond Member
Jun 22, 2000
5,468
0
0
As of the late 80's, MAC addresses were burned into NIC cards so changing a MAC address would be like changing a song on an audio CDR.

Hahahaha...oh wait. I hope you weren't being serious.

Needless to say, spoofing a MAC addr is pretty simple. I'm not going to go into details, for obvious reasons. My feeling is that the original poster's intent is not malicious, but I do feel that a clearer explanation is in order. I'm confused as to why a PS2 needs to be registered, when you have a perfectly decent winxp machine to use.

While I agree with most of that school's policy (I have written many of these type of documents), they are setting themselves up for misunderstandings by leaving the "Any computer that is found with a hardware address consisting of all zeros will be disconnected until it is reconfigured" line in. If they simply said "Users may not mask the hardware address of their machine" and left it at that, it would be crystal clear. If you take their current policy in the most literal sense (and trust me, people will do ANYTHING to get around policies), you could take it to mean "ok, I can change my hardware address as long as I dont make it all zeros."

Anyway, concerning dionx, I would like a better explaination of what you hope to accomplish. But for future reference, your first source for answers to your questions should always be your school's IT dept. They will tell exactly what you can and cannot do, and if there is a way to (legally) do what you want to do, they will be the ones to tell you how to do it.
 

dionx

Diamond Member
Mar 11, 2001
3,500
1
81
here is what i'm trying to do. get my PS2 online to play games. so far here is what is going on.

i used the PS2 network startup disc to have the settings loaded to my memory card and what not. i used the automatic setup. when detecting for the network, it found all the proper settings. it even said i was properly configured on the internet however my registration could not be properly sent to SCEA. i emailed SCEA to see if i can find the MAC address of the sony network adaptor. in the email, they said to push "Select" when they said the message appears about a misconfigured internet configuration. since i was online (able to see the network), but not properly registered with the school network, i did not get this message so i could not push select.

so i went through the process of setting it up network configs again this time leaving the network cable unplugged. so when the PS2 tried detecting the network, it found none and said i had a unpluged cable. when i got that message, i pushed "Select" and was able to get the MAC address of the network adaptor as described in the email from sony.

normally, registration of the network adaptor and its associated MAC addresses is done through a internet browser of the computer its installed on. sony said in their email that they do no currently offer an online browser with the PS2 therefore the registration is not possible on the PS2 unit itself. my intent is to take the PS2 network's MAC address, spoof it on my computer just so i can have the schools network detect that MAC address, use my computer to register the MAC address, then once i'm done, have the computer's NIC return to its original MAC address. with the Sony's MAC address registered, i am hoping that i can use the PS2 adaptor being able to connect to game server sites.
 

Oaf357

Senior member
Sep 2, 2001
956
0
0
Originally posted by: SaigonK
This isnt legal in the first place...call the IT department of your school..plain and simple.
Second read the forum rules, this type of post is sure to get locked.

Spoofing a MAC address is in no way illegal, period.

Please remove your head from your anus.
 

OZEE

Senior member
Feb 23, 2001
985
0
0
At least in everything I've ever worked with, the MAC address is burned into the hardware, like rc240sx said. The IP address you can change, but not the MAC address. I wouldn't say it's illegal, just not possible.

Since you know the MAC address of your device, contact the IT dept -- They ought to be able to do a "manual" registration with that information.
 

SaigonK

Diamond Member
Aug 13, 2001
7,482
3
0
www.robertrivas.com
Quote
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by: Oaf357
Spoofing a MAC address is in no way illegal, period.

Please remove your head from your anus
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Nice comments dumbass, as usualy an uneducated remark comes out.
If you had taken a single moment to read his post, and his schools TOS, you would see that what he is trying to do is NOT ALLOWED according to his IS group.

And spoofing a MAC address all on it's own is NOT illegal, at least you got that right, but spoofing one to gain unauthorized access is.
Perhaps the term illegal is not what i was looking for, maybe i meant "not allowed". Either way don't thread crap without reading all the facts....

See my previous comments and the clear statement by his IS team and their TOS.
So do us both a favor and take your smart-ass comments and uninformed solutions elsewhere.
 

stash

Diamond Member
Jun 22, 2000
5,468
0
0
The IP address you can change, but not the MAC address. I wouldn't say it's illegal, just not possible.
Sorry, no.

Dionx, I would just like to say that I'm an idiot. For some reason, when you said PS2, I was thinking PS/2, as in the IBM PS/2, not the game console. I see what you are trying to do now. But I agree with OZEE on one thing: take the PS2 MAC address to the IT department, they should be able to register it for you. No need to worry about spoofing.