I need a board that will support ncq.

[ingeborgdot]

So you would recommend them over gigabyte and msi?????????????????

 

[ingeborgdot]

Ok, now my choice is even harder. I just called foxconn and talked to someone. I got though within 20seconds. That is a good sign. I decided because of that it may be a good place. I could understand them also. Epox doesn't have a place to contact anyone over the phone which is what I like to do but they offer a nice bundle. So now here are my choices.
EP-9NPA+ULTRA by epox, gigabyte K8N Ultra 9 or MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum and Foxconn WinFast NF4UK8AA. What would you do??????????????????They are all good,(i think).

 

[SNM]

Originally posted by: mdahc
No one has conclusively proven that the Gigabyte board/nF4 std./4x supports NCQ. Furthermore, those links you posted state the nF4 Ultra and SLI support SATA2, which means they support NCQ.

Look at FastEddie's last post. The review @ GamePC specifically states that that board supports NCQ, even though it doesn't have SATA II.

Honestly, just because NCQ is part of the SATA II spec doesn't mean non-SATA II boards can't implement it.

 

[mdahc]

I never said non-SATA2 boards cannot implement NCQ. Hell, everyone knows Intel has done so with ICH6. I was just saying that of all these posts, no one has gotten confirmation from nVIDIA, who should be the definitive source. I mean, where is GamePC getting their basis for stating nF4 std. features NCQ?

 

[anarchyreigns]

Originally posted by: mdahc


Furthermore, those links you posted state the nF4 Ultra and SLI support SATA2,

No they don't, none of the the nForc4 boards fully support SATA II. They are all SATA boards that happen to support ncq, but they're not SATA II. You all seem to think that 3GB/s means SATA II....it does not. The only aspect of SATA II the nforce4 supports is NCQ. SATA II is defined by ncq, port selectors and port multipliers and not by 3gb/sec.

Look up the specs for the nforce4 mcp (its a pdf file on their site) and it will tell you that is supports ncq. Again, the only diff. SATA wise between 4x and ulta/sli is the speed.

There are other products out there that are SATA that support ncq, but that aren't SATA II, such as the Maxtor Diamondmax 10 hard drives.

 

[anarchyreigns]

Originally posted by: mdahc
I was just saying that of all these posts, no one has gotten confirmation from nVIDIA, who should be the definitive source.

You don't need confirmation from nVidia, as it is obvious that all the boards support it. If none of the tech specs for any of the boards explicitly mentions it, yet the mcp documentation says ncq is part of the mcp, then unless stated otherwise, it would be obvious that they all have it.

 

[mdahc]

I'm not trying to be a stickler, but what MCP documentation?

 

[ChineseDemocracyGNR]

Originally posted by: mdahc
If you look at my quote included in your post, I said the nF4 std., which is the same as the nF4 4x, is limited to 800MHz HTT.

The nForce4 and nForce4-4X are different chipsets. The first one supports 1000MHz HTT and the second 800MHz HTT.

nForce4-4X (800MHz HTT):
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/tests/mainboards/msi/k8n_neo3_gold/Chipset.jpg

nForce4 (1000MHz HTT, non-Ultra or SLI):
http://www.bodnara.co.kr/bbs/index.html...%B5%E5&sub_category=Y&list=&no=&bodNo=

 

[mdahc]

I thought they were the same since this article states the nForce4 (non-Ultra, non-SLI) is limited to 800MHz HTT.

 

[ChineseDemocracyGNR]

Yep, that article is incorrect, about the HTT speed and also "In addition, the HT bus is locked on the basic nF4 to prevent overclocking of the Hyper Transport. "

The several motherboards available today based on these chipsets prove it wrong.

 

[PleasurePaulie64]

Read this article I just found:

http://www.amdzone.com/index.php?name=P...0&sid=7b2f614bc2aa54ca1ff8646b9e754244

All Nforce 4 boards support NCQ etc.