I must be getting old

[Exterous]

I am excited by the new Bosch dishwasher I got for our new house (At a great discount too!). I am disappointed that I will be leaving my nice Kohler toilets for entry level builder grade ones. I was a bit surprised that I felt so strongly for either of these two household items. I feel like I should now look for a cane in case there are children who would dare run across my new lawn

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Changing a crapper is pretty easy. Look at youtube seriously replacing one is simple, if you do it I recommend getting two standard wax rings to seal it don't bother with the reinforced or silicon rings they over complicate things and as a former plumber told me why mess with something that has been around for 100+ years.

 

[spacejamz]

I remember Black Friday about 7 years ago when I was camping out for a front loading washer/dryer instead of electronics...

 

[dullard]

I got a new Bosch dishwasher about 6 months ago. The old one just had one too many problems to deal with. The first 3 major failures, I lived with for several years. But not 4 problems. I was excited too to get the new dishwasher (so that makes two of us getting old).

Bosch is great on most things. Cheap, cleans well, very quiet. But there is one major drawback. The engineers made it so watertight that after you wash it, the little bits of water that accumulate in your dishes (the bottom of coffee cups, the joints in pots, any narrow crevice, etc) just has nowhere to go. It can't evaporate as the vapor pressure quickly reaches equilibrium. So, if you don't use the sanitize mode or don't take your dishes out within a day, expect them to reek as the stagnant water just sits there forever.

All other dishwashers that I've used are so leaky, that you could run the dishwasher and come back weeks later and be fine. Everything would have dried by then.

 

[Exterous]

Changing a crapper is pretty easy.

I know - I've replaced the ones in our current house myself. Just with the other things on the list to buy and do replacing the builder grade ones will be pretty low on my list - which is why I'll miss the ones I have.

The engineers made it so watertight that after you wash it, the little bits of water that accumulate in your dishes (the bottom of coffee cups, the joints in pots, any narrow crevice, etc) just has nowhere to go. It can't evaporate as the vapor pressure quickly reaches equilibrium. So, if you don't use the sanitize mode or don't take your dishes out within a day, expect them to reek as the stagnant water just sits there forever.

Good to know - thanks!

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I know - I've replaced the ones in our current house myself. Just with the other things on the list to buy and do that will be pretty low on my list - which is why I'll miss the ones I have.



Good to know - thanks!

Maybe a Xmas present, should would be a fun gift to give.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Changing a crapper is pretty easy. Look at youtube seriously replacing one is simple, if you do it I recommend getting two standard wax rings to seal it don't bother with the reinforced or silicon rings they over complicate things and as a former plumber told me why mess with something that has been around for 100+ years.

It can be. But pray that whoever installed the last one did a decent job and that the plumbing is set correctly. Else it can be a nightmare.

Also - buy disposable gloves.

Finally OP - you are not old. You just have owned a house long enough to appreciate the difference between quality and crap. Or a quality crap. Or something like that.

 

[K1052]

The current place has a Bosch dw and the next one will also. Most DWs on the low and middle end sound like an exploding combine going through a car wash.

 

[edro]

Crappers have always amazed me at how cheap they are for how often you use them.
$300 gets you a top of the line toilet at big box stores.
(Yeah, they make $1000 toilets, but those are electronic or special shape purely for aesthetics.)

That is cheap for something so instrumental that you use every day for over a decade.
Even the $90 ones will get you through.

 

[Insomniator]

I would be excited about a new dishwasher too!

However, I recently moved apartments and our old apartment had new appliances. The whirlpool dishwasher worked just OK... certainly not great as I was already skeptical about dishwashers in the first place (GF required one though). It was stainless, had all kinds of options etc... still had to rewash dishes all the time.

New apartment has older appliances and the dishwasher looks like its from the 80's... one shelf... just one big knob to turn on/off etc... and it does a WAY better job. I wonder if old models have less heat and water pressure restrictions? Things come out sparkling in this old crappy looking one, using the same detergent as we did in the brand new one from before that left food all over everything.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Crappers have always amazed me at how cheap they are for how often you use them.
$300 gets you a top of the line toilet at big box stores.
(Yeah, they make $1000 toilets, but those are electronic or special shape purely for aesthetics.)

That is cheap for something so instrumental that you use every day for over a decade.
Even the $90 ones will get you through.

I know its weird how the same principle doesn't apply to mattresses. I guess its the sleep thing.

 

[Kaido]

I remember Black Friday about 7 years ago when I was camping out for a front loading washer/dryer instead of electronics...

I know, my fridge is on death's door & I've been shopping for new ones..."ooh, TWO pull-out freezers on the bottom." What's wrong with me

 

[CraKaJaX]

You just have owned a house long enough to appreciate the difference between quality and crap. Or a quality crap. Or something like that.

D: :thumbsup:

 

[Mayne]

I just finished installing a toilet just now that the landlord dropped off. It still had water in it lol.

but an upgrade is an upgrade..no longer have to pull the chain to flush.

 

[Exterous]

Maybe a Xmas present, should would be a fun gift to give.

"So let me get this straight - your wife bought you a toilet for christmas?"

Most DWs on the low and middle end sound like an exploding combine going through a car wash.

The current one there is an entry level stainless steel one - the kind that have a half plastic front on the exterior to save on cost along with every other corner cut possible. I ran it during the home inspection and it sounds like a jet engine.

I saw a Bosch 300 series (SHE53TF5UC) at Lowes for $366 and picked it up after only a moment of hesitation

That is cheap for something so instrumental that you use every day for over a decade.
Even the $90 ones will get you through.

Eh - I have a hate hate relationship with the cheap ones. Non-glazed traps, cheap gaskets, brittle plastic parts etc. (ex: Mansfield 160). I'd rather spend a bit more and get a much better toilet

 

[Fanatical Meat]

"So let me get this straight - your wife bought you a toilet for christmas?"

Haha no I wouldn't have the balls. However in our old apartment she would have liked that provided we were allowed to change it. We had one of the super low flow toilets I think it was .6 gallon flush) it was constantly getting clogged. Women hate to ask a guy to plung a toilet after they use it.

 

[BoomerD]

Dude...the obvious solution is to swap out the cheap builder terlets for your Koehler terlets. Shouldn't cost more than about $40 for the wax rings...plus maybe a couple of $$ for new mounting bolts. (many wax rings come with replacement bolts)

 

[edro]

Most toilets above $150 come with the wax ring, mounting bolts, fill valve, flapper, etc.
The only thing you usually need is the connection hose.