I messed up something...

[looper]

Last night I did a mild overclock of the cpu. These are the exact Bios settings I changed:

In ?Advanced??? ??????. disabled ?C1E support?
? .?????.. disabled ?Speedstep?

In ?AI Tuning??????????changed from ?auto? to ?manual?

?CPU Frequency????????.. changed from ?333? to ?400? (front side bus)

?Spread Spectrum????????. changed from ?auto? to ?disabled?

?PCI Express Freq????????.changed from ?auto? to ?110?

?PCI Clock Sychronization mode??.changed from ?auto? to ?33.33?mhz

In ?Power? settings???????..changed ?cpu Q fan control? from ?disabled? to
?enabled?

In ?Northbridge chipset?/ ?Memory remap??.changed ?disabled? to ?enabled?


I saved and re-booted. Checked with a cpu diagnostic utility, which said the comp was running at 3.6ghz (400x9) at a core temp of 51c. Everything seemed fine. I used Explorer and web-surfed for a while. I left the room to eat supper, and when I returned the monitor screen was dark. ??could not ?wake it up??re-booted comp?.same thing. Got another monitor and connected it?same thing / checked all connections/all fans turning on the MB and case?

What happened?

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: looper
System:
?PCI Express Freq????????.changed from ?auto? to ?110? - No. Put that back to 99/100/101. Don't overclock PCI-e unless you like issues.

In ?Northbridge chipset?/ ?Memory remap??.changed ?disabled? to ?enabled?
Enabled is for x64 OSes; disabled for x86., though you can likely use either IIRC.

I saved and re-booted. Checked with a cpu diagnostic utility, which said the comp was running at 3.6ghz (400x9) at a core temp of 51c. Everything seemed fine. I used Explorer and web-surfed for a while. I left the room to eat supper, and when I returned the monitor screen was dark. ??could not ?wake it up??re-booted comp?.same thing. Got another monitor and connected it?same thing / checked all connections/all fans turning on the MB and case?

What happened?

Check my bold additions.

And i'm not seeing stability checking in this story. How do you know it's stable @ 3.6 GHz?

Where's the P95/Memtest action?

 

[DSF]

Have you tried clearing CMOS?

 

[looper]

Oh boy, I thought memory remapping "enable" was to allow the comp to "see" the additional 2 gig I put in... no, the system is 32 bit...that setting was if you had 64 bit "OS"....OUCH

Didn't even have time to run 'stress" tests...

DUH... I never cleared the cmos before...I think I know how...but please enlighten me...

thx

 

[JPB]

Disconnect the power from the PC and pull the battery for about 30 seconds.

 

[looper]

Per my manual, I removed battery, moved jumpers on MB from 1-2 position to 2-3 position for @ 10 seconds or so....moved jumper back to position 1-2.....put battery back in...reconnected everything... re-booted....same thing everything turning(fans) on MB...but nothing on monitor...

HELP....

 

[palladium]

By any chance do you have another PC to test your current video card? I've heard that playing with PCIe timings can be a disaster to video cards . Would also consider borrowing someone's vid card and see if that solves the problem...

 

[looper]

Based on all the comments here...especially "n7"... I really messed up some settings...

Problem is, ....comp doesn't start the boot process for me to get to the bios...

I am hurting here....

HELP...

Brian

 

[looper]

Talked to a friend...

He thinks that possibly, after I walked away from the comp after it was initially working fine after the changes I made in Bios, in kitchen eating supper for a half-hour or so....that it over-heated, and I wasn't there to turn it right off before damage was done....to what...the MB or memory rather than the cpu?

OUCH...

If this is the case..that I need new MB... with the components I have right now, and wanting to spend as little money as I can, ...what MB should I get to replace that Asus P5B-Deluxe? Same board, or is there a better board w/ that same chipset, so that I can use the same components I have already...

 

[DSF]

It's possible, but I would check with another video card first.

 

[Accord99]

Do you remember what bios you had on the P5B deluxe? Also have you tried taking out enough DIMMs so that you only have a total of 2GB of RAM?

 

[looper]

Has latest "1237" bios...

No, I did not try taking out 2 mem dimm's...

 

[Markfw]

I still say, follow the advice on the battery, unplug psu from power cord, remove battery for AT LEAST 30 seconds. Then put battery back in, and power up. CPU is probably fine, that E8400 doesn't die easy. Worst thing would be the video card with that 110 setting.

Try the battery first and report back.

 

[looper]

MARKFW...

So, it's possible, that if the battery was not out for a full 30 sec or so, that maybe it did not reset itself? Oh geez..........

The rig is at my friend's comp store as we speak....dropped it off around 4pm today (Thurs)

 

[Big Lar]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
I still say, follow the advice on the battery, unplug psu from power cord, remove battery for AT LEAST 30 seconds. Then put battery back in, and power up. CPU is probably fine, that E8400 doesn't die easy. Worst thing would be the video card with that 110 setting.

Try the battery first and report back.

What Mark said above, but to add; Unplug power from the wall. Pull all power from the Motherboard including the atx connectors etc while battery is out. Only hook up the atx connectors, cpu video card, fan for the cpu and "1" stick of ram in the ram slot closest to the cpu. Do not connect any sata cables, usb drives etc at this time. Plug the power cord back into the wall that you previously pulled out before working on your computer. See if it boots then and if so get into bios and load "Setup Defaults". Hope this works for you.

Larry

 

[looper]

Tech said "MB no good"....showed me black areas on board...OUCH

SO...I took rig home... what to do...

New MB needed, so... best sockett 775 board now, so I can still use my E8400cpu, memory, and vid card...IF they are still good...which he said he didn't know, unless he replaced MB then checked those other components...

P5Q Deluxe?
RampageII? (expensive)...

What to do here?

 

[OCNewbie]

Go with the Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P or GA-EP45-UD3R. First one has crossfire, dual-lan, some enhanced security chip, the other one does not, but other than that, they are both identical. Both very highly regarded boards.

 

[Denithor]

Ok, something stinks here. Your friend runs a computer shop but cannot test a video card (in another machine, duh) unless he first replaces your motherboard? Sounds like he may be taking you for a ride here.

I really doubt a slight OC from 333 to 400 would cause the motherboard to actually "burn" like you are describing with dark spots. In over ten years of working on systems I have only seen two that were physically burned and those took unprotected hits from lightning (needless to say, those customers bought surge protectors). On those burned systems nothing worked, there was no power distributed around the board after the damage was done. In your case the motherboard still gets power as evidenced by the fans spinning up.

Now, pushing the PCIe setting to 110 was a mistake, that's best left alone completely during overclocking. That may have messed up your video card but I doubt it would damage your motherboard.

I suggest you play with this a little longer before replacing parts. And I suggest you do it yourself instead of taking it to your friend, who may not be on your side in this.

 

[looper]

Think I have a GeForce 6800 card in a box somewhere...going to pop that in and see if anything good happens...

So, new card in...turn on...to bios ...go to default settings...

thx

 

[sskk]

Go kick your "friend"'s ass now.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: looper
Tech said "MB no good"....showed me black areas on board...OUCH

SO...I took rig home... what to do...

What to do here?

Post pics of these "black areas" please.

And please, try with only one memory DIMM, with nothing but the mobo/cpu power hooked up, as well as video card power if needed.
With a different video card of course.

 

[looper]

She's dead...

With the "burned" smell...I couldn't tell that before...had cold for a week.

So, thinking of the P5Q or the Gigabyte MB....don't want to go w/ new chipsets, as I want to use as many of same components as possible...

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: looper
She's dead...

With the "burned" smell...I couldn't tell that before...had cold for a week.

So, thinking of the P5Q or the Gigabyte MB....don't want to go w/ new chipsets, as I want to use as many of same components as possible...

I had a DS3L die on me kinda like your situation. She booted fine at stock with Q6600. Then I overclocked and it all seemed good. Came back some time later after doing a Prime95 and the system was shutdown.

Would not reboot until I cleared the CMOS. Then it would not really overclock much anymore...by not really I mean the Vcore I had to use was crazy higher than before (by a good 0.2V) to deal with a Vdroop that was suddenly 0.3V.

I took the mobo out, the only thing that I could tell was wrong was that the backside of the mobo there was a blackened area about the size of a dime. I opened a ticket with Gigabyte, explained that I burned up my board by overclocking (I wasn't looking for RMA, I had extra boards already) and was just curious if they wanted the board back for their internal debug failure analysis.

They took the board, said it had a bad VRM and actually sent me a replacement even though I insisted I burned it up overclocking. In their assessment they decided the VRM must have been weak to begin with and would have likely died even at stock before the warranty expired anyways.

Needless to say gigabyte is now at the top of my list of preferred mobo suppliers.

Oh and none of my other components were damaged (as far as I could ever determine)...the ram, cpu, vid card, psu, all worked just fine in the new DS3L.

So I would say that the story surrounding your situation has merit regarding the behavior of your mobo and the burned marks.

 

[looper]

I'm in another active thread here, and someone said about the EVGA lifetime "W" on their board, and recommened the "i790 ultra" is it called?... only prob w/ that MB is that I would have to get new DDR3 memory...