I may need to file a restraining / stalking order

[OCGuy]

I think we need pics of all females involved here.

 

[Hyperlite]

Do you have a heart? This is your sister,, Your "DO SOMETHING" is a restraining order?

If you had 0 ability to help her, then it ends. However, this is clearly not the case. :hmm:

She is your sister, and despite all ill-fate, her and her kids deserve n+1 chances from you. () edit : (n->inf) assumed.

Stop being such a selfish irresponsible brother. You're not \much better than she is by looking out for only your own. Feeling high and mighty now?

No. disagree. Some people can't be helped.

 

[MentalIlness]

Do you have a heart? This is your sister,, Your "DO SOMETHING" is a restraining order?

If you had 0 ability to help her, then it ends. However, this is clearly not the case. :hmm:

She is your sister, and despite all ill-fate, her and her kids deserve n+1 chances from you. () edit : (n->inf) assumed.

Stop being such a selfish irresponsible brother. You're not \much better than she is by looking out for only your own. Feeling high and mighty now?

What if "you" although not 100% sure of "your" sister trying to break into your house ?

What if "your" sister basically tried running over "your" daughter ? Or at least making "your" daughter scared of that fact ?

What if "your" sister screams obscene gestures at "your" kids ?

What if "your" sister sat a block away and "stared" at "your" house ? Not knowing what they may or may not do ?

What if "your" sisters kids tried pushing drugs on "your" kids ?

And the list can keep on going as well.

Maybe you should think twice before you post that again.

On the other hand, Maybe I should take them out to dinner, and give them 5k to help with their financial situation.

 

[nanobreath]

I agree something should be done. blood is thinner? IF someone can be helped, he should be helped.

This is why the GOOD part of religion works. And societies thrive under such.

The bolded below is what you are missing. They do not acknowledge a problem, so there is no helping them. They like the lifestyle they live in even if it is not self-sustainable. The below of "erasing" family is simply a ploy to make the other feel guilty. They know how to tug those heartstrings to get what they want.

She even said two days ago, that she has erased "my" family from her life. But yet she still continues.

Like I always say....You cannot help someone that doesn't want to help themselves.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Get the restraining order...shame she has her kids doing creepy shit for her too.

 

[thepd7]

Do you have a heart? This is your sister,, Your "DO SOMETHING" is a restraining order?

If you had 0 ability to help her, then it ends. However, this is clearly not the case. :hmm:

She is your sister, and despite all ill-fate, her and her kids deserve n+1 chances from you. () edit : (n->inf) assumed.

Stop being such a selfish irresponsible brother. You're not \much better than she is by looking out for only your own. Feeling high and mighty now?

haha wow where the hell did you come from? Can I be a part of your family and treat you like crap but get away with it?

 

[Soundmanred]

haha wow where the hell did you come from? Can I be a part of your family and treat you like crap but get away with it?

Probably not an American, or is from eastern descent.

 

[BoomerD]

While I won't disagree that a restraining order may indeed be a good thing, do remember that a restraining order doesn't magically put a protective cage around you and your family...and that people violate restraining orders all the time...often with fatal consequences.

I think that in most cases, before a permanent restraining order can/will be issued, your sister will have the opportunity to "defend herself" against the order...but will require her to actually show up in a court to do so.

Restraining orders aren't a magical preventative against harassment/violence. They merely give the cops a tool to use to try to help you when it happens.

 

[MentalIlness]

While I won't disagree that a restraining order may indeed be a good thing, do remember that a restraining order doesn't magically put a protective cage around you and your family...and that people violate restraining orders all the time...often with fatal consequences.

I think that in most cases, before a permanent restraining order can/will be issued, your sister will have the opportunity to "defend herself" against the order...but will require her to actually show up in a court to do so.

Restraining orders aren't a magical preventative against harassment/violence. They merely give the cops a tool to use to try to help you when it happens.

Well, I do know what you are saying, and you are correct. I think I am doing it mostly to give them a message to stop screwing around. Especially since they all have been in prison before for stealing expensive dogs.

Then she said, my boyfriend did it...he says...my girlfriend did it. Well...they both went. And if they don't want to go back, they will probably abide by the rules of the order. HOPEFULLY

 

[BoomerD]

Well, I do know what you are saying, and you are correct. I think I am doing it mostly to give them a message to stop screwing around. Especially since they all have been in prison before for stealing expensive dogs.

Then she said, my boyfriend did it...he says...my girlfriend did it. Well...they both went. And if they don't want to go back, they will probably abide by the rules of the order. HOPEFULLY

If you think that getting a restraining order is going to "give them a message," your user name is indeed appropriate.

The ONLY message it's going to send is that you're an easy mark...and won't actually do anything about the harassment except whine.

 

[darkswordsman17]

If you think that getting a restraining order is going to "give them a message," your user name is indeed appropriate.

The ONLY message it's going to send is that you're an easy mark...and won't actually do anything about the harassment except whine.

Uh, WTF is he supposed to do?

 

[alkemyst]

most restraining orders put in by a 'kid' to their siblings/parents are thrown out of court. Emo-law doesn't win in our courts all of the time.

 

[BoomerD]

Uh, WTF is he supposed to do?

Uh...if he can't deal with it himself, then unfortunately, it's his only legal recourse. He COULD always try to resolve the issues face-to-face...

A restraining order isn't going to stop them from harassing him if that's what they really want to do. Yes, he can call the cops and report every violation of the restraining order...but the cops have to catch them in the act before they can really do anything. Otherwise, it's just "he said, she said," and nothing gets done.

 

[Terzo]

Stop being such a selfish irresponsible brother. You're not \much better than she is by looking out for only your own. Feeling high and mighty now?

I don't think you should be giving familial advice when you don't even respect your mother enough to tell her the truth about a ruined sweater.

Ok. I tried the rinse, The fuzz stuff is not coming off. The pants are fine, the streaks came out. I'm drying them now on Low, and hopefully it'll be ok.

That sweater is Gone, she'll ask me where it is , and I 'll just tell her I did not see it, she' must've misplaced it at work, and someone stole it.

 

[MentalIlness]

Uh...if he can't deal with it himself, then unfortunately, it's his only legal recourse. He COULD always try to resolve the issues face-to-face...

A restraining order isn't going to stop them from harassing him if that's what they really want to do. Yes, he can call the cops and report every violation of the restraining order...but the cops have to catch them in the act before they can really do anything. Otherwise, it's just "he said, she said," and nothing gets done.

If you would have read the entire thread, you would have known that I have been "dealing with this shit" for the last 4 years.

And yea, I believe it will stop them, otherwise they will go to prison. Knowing their background, they will end up there whether I proceed with this or not. But I WILL NOT put my family at risk when they decide to take a walk. WOULD YOU ?

You wouldnt believe how many time I "could have" had the police catch them in the act. I just chose not to. And everytime I dont, it seems to get worse. But there is no more "could have" called.

Of course not sure why I am "trying" to explain this to you. Do you have a wife and kids ? If you do, then you got to see where I am coming from. If not, then you sir, are not one for a family life.

Could you walk up to a stranger and try to get them to listen to reason if they were abusive, drug using, thieving assholes that almost ran over your daughter and makes threats against them ? If you are, you should reevaluate your life.

 

[MentalIlness]

Uh, WTF is he supposed to do?

I guess give them my debit cards and tell them to go make a better life for themselves.

 

[BoomerD]

If you would have read the entire thread, you would have known that I have been "dealing with this shit" for the last 4 years.

And yea, I believe it will stop them, otherwise they will go to prison. Knowing their background, they will end up there whether I proceed with this or not. But I WILL NOT put my family at risk when they decide to take a walk. WOULD YOU ?

You wouldnt believe how many time I "could have" had the police catch them in the act. I just chose not to. And everytime I dont, it seems to get worse. But there is no more "could have" called.

Of course not sure why I am "trying" to explain this to you. Do you have a wife and kids ? If you do, then you got to see where I am coming from. If not, then you sir, are not one for a family life.

Could you walk up to a stranger and try to get them to listen to reason if they were abusive, drug using, thieving assholes that almost ran over your daughter and makes threats against them ? If you are, you should reevaluate your life.

Yes, I've read the thread, but the point is, you HAVEN'T been dealing with this shit for four years...you've been tolerating this shit for four years. There IS a difference.

Do I have a wife and kids? Unfortunately...yes I do. I simply wouldn't have put up with the bullshit for four years.

Your ranting here doesn't make sense...

Could you walk up to a stranger and try to get them to listen to reason if they were abusive, drug using, thieving assholes that almost ran over your daughter and makes threats against them ? If you are, you should reevaluate your life

Could I walk up to a stranger and try to get them to listen to reason? Fuck no. It's unlikely that I'd try with a "complete stranger," but as for "amost running over your daughter and making death threats," you have allowed this shit to go on for, by your admission, four years. It should not have gone on for more than a couple of days. it's up to YOU to deal with it. If you can't kick their asses (not everyone can/is willing to even try this for various reasons) and get the point across that way, then you SHOULD have lawyered up and filed the restraining order a LONG TIME AGO. Doing so now, after they've been able to "terrorize your family" for so long, probably won't work. In fact, odds are, it'll have just the opposite effect.
The second part of your quoted bit doesn't make any sense.

BUT, good luck. I sincerely hope the restraining order has the desired effect.

If not...can I haz your stuff? (pics of wife/GF too please)

 

[darkswordsman17]

Uh...if he can't deal with it himself, then unfortunately, it's his only legal recourse. He COULD always try to resolve the issues face-to-face...

A restraining order isn't going to stop them from harassing him if that's what they really want to do. Yes, he can call the cops and report every violation of the restraining order...but the cops have to catch them in the act before they can really do anything. Otherwise, it's just "he said, she said," and nothing gets done.

Bullshit. Did you even read? They're following his daughters around, almost hitting them with cars. This has been ongoing for years, and he's already said he's tried to handle it to no avail.

 

[BoomerD]

Bullshit. Did you even read? They're following his daughters around, almost hitting them with cars. This has been ongoing for years, and he's already said he's tried to handle it to no avail.

Do you REALLY think a piece of paper, a restraining order, is going to stop their behavior?

Maybe so. For the sake of the OP and his family, I certainly hope so.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Yes, I've read the thread, but the point is, you HAVEN'T been dealing with this shit for four years...you've been tolerating this shit for four years. There IS a difference.

Do I have a wife and kids? Unfortunately...yes I do. I simply wouldn't have put up with the bullshit for four years.

Your ranting here doesn't make sense...



Could I walk up to a stranger and try to get them to listen to reason? Fuck no. It's unlikely that I'd try with a "complete stranger," but as for "amost running over your daughter and making death threats," you have allowed this shit to go on for, by your admission, four years. It should not have gone on for more than a couple of days. it's up to YOU to deal with it. If you can't kick their asses (not everyone can/is willing to even try this for various reasons) and get the point across that way, then you SHOULD have lawyered up and filed the restraining order a LONG TIME AGO. Doing so now, after they've been able to "terrorize your family" for so long, probably won't work. In fact, odds are, it'll have just the opposite effect.
The second part of your quoted bit doesn't make any sense.

BUT, good luck. I sincerely hope the restraining order has the desired effect.

If not...can I haz your stuff? (pics of wife/GF too please)

WTF, you criticize him for not handling it, and then tell him he's been trying to handle it for too long?

 

[darkswordsman17]

Do you REALLY think a piece of paper, a restraining order, is going to stop their behavior?

Maybe so. For the sake of the OP and his family, I certainly hope so.

WTF does that have to do with it? Its the only recourse he has short of committing a crime himself. Hmm, I wonder which one might be the better option here.

 

[borisvodofsky]

What if "you" although not 100% sure of "your" sister trying to break into your house ?

What if "your" sister basically tried running over "your" daughter ? Or at least making "your" daughter scared of that fact ?

What if "your" sister screams obscene gestures at "your" kids ?

What if "your" sister sat a block away and "stared" at "your" house ? Not knowing what they may or may not do ?

What if "your" sisters kids tried pushing drugs on "your" kids ?

And the list can keep on going as well.

Maybe you should think twice before you post that again.

On the other hand, Maybe I should take them out to dinner, and give them 5k to help with their financial situation.

When someone offers you cigarettes, SAYING NO does not only say: I don't want any, it also says, I'm better than you, you're stupid for smoking, go die like the rest.

The same applies here. By ignoring her, your gesture can manifest into various unintended messages that exacerbate the problem..

ALSO, have a heart...()

You get no points for survival. You are better because you can afford to give.

 

[BoomerD]

WTF, you criticize him for not handling it, and then tell him he's been trying to handle it for too long?

That's the point...he hasn't been "handling it," he's been tolerating it with only minor complaints. If someone was threatening my family, I'd either have put a stop to it myself, or I'd have gone to the cops & courts a LONG time ago. I certainly wouldn't have tolerated it for four years.

WTF does that have to do with it? Its the only recourse he has short of committing a crime himself. Hmm, I wonder which one might be the better option here.

I wonder which one might get the better results? I think I'd take the fall for beating the shit out of some druggie who'd been threating my family.

 

[MentalIlness]

Yes, I've read the thread, but the point is, you HAVEN'T been dealing with this shit for four years...you've been tolerating this shit for four years. There IS a difference.

Do I have a wife and kids? Unfortunately...yes I do. I simply wouldn't have put up with the bullshit for four years.

Your ranting here doesn't make sense...



Could I walk up to a stranger and try to get them to listen to reason? Fuck no. It's unlikely that I'd try with a "complete stranger," but as for "amost running over your daughter and making death threats," you have allowed this shit to go on for, by your admission, four years. It should not have gone on for more than a couple of days. it's up to YOU to deal with it. If you can't kick their asses (not everyone can/is willing to even try this for various reasons) and get the point across that way, then you SHOULD have lawyered up and filed the restraining order a LONG TIME AGO. Doing so now, after they've been able to "terrorize your family" for so long, probably won't work. In fact, odds are, it'll have just the opposite effect.
The second part of your quoted bit doesn't make any sense.

BUT, good luck. I sincerely hope the restraining order has the desired effect.

If not...can I haz your stuff? (pics of wife/GF too please)

You must not have read it all, because earlier in the thread, I said "THE OTHER DAY" tried to basically hit her. Not for 4 years.

And never did I say once they were "making death threats" I was referring to things like.....Ima kick your ass , yelling obscene gestures, calling them names...following them around. But you should know that because you read the whole thread.

Could I kick their ass ? You bet your ass I could. But why would I do that when my family needs me at home more than they need me in jail? Because ill tell ya now....it just wouldnt be a "ass kicking" I would be in prison for quite a while. Which would more than likely alienate my closer family members from me.

tp4tissue...


How much money do you have ? Would you like me to sell them to you ? See how far you'd get with it. Shit...for that matter, ill pay them to come hassle you, your wife and kids. Deal ?

 

[darkswordsman17]

That's the point...he hasn't been "handling it," he's been tolerating it with only minor complaints. If someone was threatening my family, I'd either have put a stop to it myself, or I'd have gone to the cops & courts a LONG time ago. I certainly wouldn't have tolerated it for four years.




I wonder which one might get the better results? I think I'd take the fall for beating the shit out of some druggie who'd been threating my family.

Again, read the fucking thread. It built up to this.

Yeah, good luck with that. Way to hurt your family by stooping to their level and letting them take you out of the picture. How exactly would you protect your family from them after you're thrown in jail for assaulting them? At least with a restraining order he should be there to protect them should they try to escalate it more. I'm sure they wouldn't want to after you beat them, that would absolutely put an end to it, there's no way they would want to get revenge after that.