I guess whether or not there will be an SE of WinME lies in the fate of Whistler. If MS can this thing relatively bug free and ready to go within a year, we probably won't see a second edition ME. If you look at their product history, though, MS is much more inclinded to offer one or more minor releases before stepping up to the next generation with a major release. The second generations of the previous Windows consumer products and the multitude of Service Packs for their various other software titles prove this.
I too would rather see us migrate straight to Whistler instead of a WinME-SE.
-CamaroGuy
I too would rather see us migrate straight to Whistler instead of a WinME-SE.
-CamaroGuy
camaro guy, WinME was supposed to be the "convergence" edition by scrapping DOS and other things. We are supposed to all be on a Win2K type OS the next round. I don't believe they will bother with a new x86 OS, though. I think this is basically the end of the line and that sledgehammer 64bit will encourage microsoft support in the end.
I like winME but I hate that you cant foramt a 3.5 disk with the old msdos format a: /s
i mean i was really pissed but i'll let it slid e for all the other stuff
i mean i was really pissed but i'll let it slid e for all the other stuff
Rigoletto: True, WinME was originally planned as the "convergence," but Whistler will be the "convergence" OS now. MS has developed both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Whistler for x86 and IA-64 respectively, as "Vancouver" (Windows 2000, 64-bit) was scrapped a few months back. No Sledghammer support as of right now, though.
Whistler will be a Win2K-type OS, so you are right, that's where we'll be on the next round.
-CamaroGuy
Whistler will be a Win2K-type OS, so you are right, that's where we'll be on the next round.
-CamaroGuy
If Whistler is built for the IA64, which has a COMPLETELY different way of working (which is thus far PROPRIETARY as much as I know) then obviously it's not compatible for sledgehammer. But all the same, how can Windows ignore this great chip lots of people will upgrade to? Are they trying to kill of the sledgehammer by hamstringing it with 32bit code?
And on the other hand MS will probably not prefer to write an inbetweener OS only for the sledgehammer. I think what consumers have to do is to use public pressure to force MS to support sledgehammer, and AMD have to release full specs and engineering samples right now.
As for WinME on the first day I've only benefited from my DSS80 working with USB, and my CD player actually playing audibly.
*oh BTW you guys must be dumb. WinME doesn't load up faster! How can it anyway unless you deinstalled lots of stuff...
And on the other hand MS will probably not prefer to write an inbetweener OS only for the sledgehammer. I think what consumers have to do is to use public pressure to force MS to support sledgehammer, and AMD have to release full specs and engineering samples right now.
As for WinME on the first day I've only benefited from my DSS80 working with USB, and my CD player actually playing audibly.
*oh BTW you guys must be dumb. WinME doesn't load up faster! How can it anyway unless you deinstalled lots of stuff...
If you used WinMe and have a decent system you would see that it does indeed load faster. It does for me and I haven't taken a smidge of standard MS stuf out.
For anyone who knows their computers intmately. WinMe should go fine at the "second" installation.
Anyone who thinks their system should run perfectly right off the bat with no experience with the new OS is a ninny. ;0p
The first installation will of course have issues (unless you're lucky).
I learned what worked and what didn't. I Quick formatted, set my system up to perfection, and voila! A stable OS with stable drivers and software makes for stable people.
My only upset is with Creative hasn't released updated Webcam drivers yet...
I had to bypass WinMe and get the '98 drivers to work myself.
Pain in the arse, loss of some features, but this will be resolved by Creative.
Should one expect hardware and software designed for one OS to work in another?
I don't, but I expect that the developers will make it work lest they lose consumers and put a bad image onto themselves.
For anyone who knows their computers intmately. WinMe should go fine at the "second" installation.
Anyone who thinks their system should run perfectly right off the bat with no experience with the new OS is a ninny. ;0p
The first installation will of course have issues (unless you're lucky).
I learned what worked and what didn't. I Quick formatted, set my system up to perfection, and voila! A stable OS with stable drivers and software makes for stable people.
My only upset is with Creative hasn't released updated Webcam drivers yet...
I had to bypass WinMe and get the '98 drivers to work myself.
Pain in the arse, loss of some features, but this will be resolved by Creative.
Should one expect hardware and software designed for one OS to work in another?
I don't, but I expect that the developers will make it work lest they lose consumers and put a bad image onto themselves.
Silvan gale you must be a bit of an ass. You can already see my system. I think you just work for Microsoft, you kiss my ass too.
Your attitude to backward compatibility is odd to say the least.
You are not I think one of the stable people you right about.
In fact, I suspect you are barking.
Your attitude to backward compatibility is odd to say the least.
You are not I think one of the stable people you right about.
In fact, I suspect you are barking.
Um, doesn't W98SE have the thumbnail views? It does on my system when viewing files in Windows Explorer, or are we talking about something else?
Funny how Windows Millenium edition is pronounced "Me" rather than "M-E"
The second edition can be "Me Too"
But anyways, Windows 2k is far more stable than Windows Me. And has anyone experienced the problem w/ Logitech mice? If you try to scroll across the screen as fast as you can, it'll shake left and right a whole bunch of times before scrolling you across. Stick to 98SE and wait for Me2 if you're using Logitech.
The second edition can be "Me Too"
But anyways, Windows 2k is far more stable than Windows Me. And has anyone experienced the problem w/ Logitech mice? If you try to scroll across the screen as fast as you can, it'll shake left and right a whole bunch of times before scrolling you across. Stick to 98SE and wait for Me2 if you're using Logitech.
<< If you used WinMe and have a decent system you would see that it does indeed load faster. It does for me and I haven't taken a smidge of standard MS stuf out. >>
It loads fast on almost any system.
<< The first installation will of course have issues (unless you're lucky). >>
Hmm I must be extremely lucky?
I installed, Windows 2000 Pro, Server Advanced Server, ME, FE, SE....no probs...it must of been magic!
ME works great for me. I'm using the backup function hoping it'll save me considerable time on my next screw up! If not then I could care less about ME.
I dual boot ME and 2000 and they both suck! I must say the edge goes to ME for better compatibility. People say 2000 is more stable??? I've had more crashed in 2000 than any 9x/ME OS.
Watrskr41, if you wanna buy 98, I have a OEM copy still shrink wrapped. All legal and brand new.
Watrskr41, if you wanna buy 98, I have a OEM copy still shrink wrapped. All legal and brand new.
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