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I love skiing. Ways to go faster? Biffed at 47mph today.

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arrfep said:
And Sonny Bono, and Michael Kennedy, and Sarah Burke.

And those are just the famous ones that make the news.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/action/snowboarding/news/story?id=5965793


In the winter of 2009-2010, out of the nearly 60 million snowsports participants, 25 skiers and 13 snowboarders died, according to the National Ski Areas Association. Of the 38 people who died skiing or snowboarding at a resort last season, 30 were males. A majority of them were under the age of 40.
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~40 people per year
 
NetWareHead said:
This...sounds like a dream. So far the fastest mountain I've skied at was Sugarloaf in Maine where I clocked over 50 mph. It was perfect groomed conditions where you could charge forward with full confidence. Never went as fast as that day in my life. 60+ has to be unreal!
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Lower bobby's at waterville is good. It's a wide open double black that only has that designation because of how steep it is and how icy it usually stays. I'm pretty sure you could hit about that same speed there if you take it straight down w/o stopping at the bailout point. I like it better than a lot of places because while it may not be as fast, you get to really test how good you are at dealing with the speed and such good visibility without any cross paths. It's a blast if you've got sharp edges.

The fastest I've ever been is at Solitude at Mammoth Mtn. Steep, wide open, great visibility and a beautiful view. You can take that one all the way down in a tuck if you want, but your skis will probably tell you it's time to slow down first 🙂 I've had my gs skis start feeling like Jello because of the speed there.

FBB: this is what happens when professionals get out of control in a "safe" course: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iAygsv2MD0#t=1m22s. Imagine what happens when you're skiing beyond abilities with random people that may wander into your path.
 
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Wait wtf, were talking about someone with the balance of a drunken sorority girl after finals. Ya your going to kill yourself.
 
Who cares how fast you are going? WTF? I live in colorado, ski every weekend and neither I or any of my friends have ever measured their speed and used it for a metric. Especially a metric of how well you ski. Skiing/boarding is about controlling your speed, and doing it gracefully. When I was 10 all I cared about was straight lining down the hill - are you 10? Oh wait ... snorgle ...

Dirigible is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. You have no business going that fast if you are wiping out going over rollers because you didn't see them. Your first responsibility is to ski safely.

I went skiing last weekend (Presidents day holiday weekend) and was so terrified that I'd run over one of the tourists that I finished the day early.
 
apac said:
Who cares how fast you are going? WTF? I live in colorado, ski every weekend and neither I or any of my friends have ever measured their speed and used it for a metric. Especially a metric of how well you ski. Skiing/boarding is about controlling your speed, and doing it gracefully. When I was 10 all I cared about was straight lining down the hill - are you 10? Oh wait ... snorgle ...

Dirigible is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. You have no business going that fast if you are wiping out going over rollers because you didn't see them. Your first responsibility is to ski safely.

I went skiing last weekend (Presidents day holiday weekend) and was so terrified that I'd run over one of the tourists that I finished the day early.
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I'm pretty sure every single skier has done the same sort of stupid shit after they had a couple of days under their belts. For some that happens as 10, for others, at 25. He gets the lecture and hopefully learns to cut the stupid shit out and focus on and discover the joys of better technique instead of just pointing himself downhill and going.
 
fuzzybabybunny said:
I'm in NorCal, so we have Lake Tahoe.


The following runs on Burnout I hit up to 56mph. Want to work my way up to 60mph, but scared. I don't think my intermediate skis are made for it?
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No, your skis aren't up for it. Your skis are way better than you are at the moment and probably will be for the next few seasons at the least. If you do want to hit those kinds of speeds, do it in a race course with proper downhill skis.

If you have a need for speed, you should try finding a nastar course around your area: http://skiracing.nastar.com/index.jsp?pagename=wheretorace#CA You have everyone from newbies like yourself to beer league racers in GS suits. It's a few dollars to go as fast as you want in a controlled environment, and you might learn something while waiting in line.
 
So to answer your questions.

Yes, I've gone skiing 4 times (8 days). Last 4 days have been racking up 20,000ft+ in elevation change, skipping lunch, just snacking on power bars up the lifts. I can ski parallel without thinking. I can stop whenever I want given enough stopping distance. I never learned the wedge - just started on parallel because that's what my friends told me to do and the wedge is both slow and tiring. I can't do moguls very well because I can't get the timing right yet, and I don't like them anyway. My friends, especially the very experienced ones, are surprised at my ability considering this is my first season, and I believe that skiing with more advanced friends have helped me a ton. Last time we went my friend pointed at a guy. He's got his skis kind wide, tips pointed a bit inward, but he's doing side to side carves, albeit traveling slowly and the side to side transition is not very elegant, but at least he's not wedging. "See that? That's what I would expect from someone's who's only skiid 3 times."

First 2 weekends I was crashing all over the place but this trial by fire has helped a lot in the learning process. I now keep up no problem on regular, non mogul runs with skiiers who have 10 years under their belt. I can almost ski with my knees completely stuck together, but I widen my stance and drop down lower while leaning forward for the fast stuff. I never have issues with crossing my skis or not going parallel. I have the hip movement and the alternating left and right mostly down now. I can pick up someone's fallen pole from the ground in the middle of a carve without really thinking. If I slide over something weird that destabilizes me I can usually lift one ski, ski on the other ski for a second or so while I work on replanting the lifted ski. When I'm making a sharp turn at 45mph I'm just a couple feet above the ground due to my lean. Yes, I know, these are all just beginner skills and skill level can only be measured by the time you've spent skiing. No way could a guy who's skied so few times be better than someone who has skied a year or more. There's no room for natural ability in this. Hard work and not being afraid to fall over and over and over and over also have nothing to do with this.

Skiid blacks all day today and fell twice. Once was the unexpected jump due to my lenses, another was as I was initiating a carve and I suddenly hit a patch of solid ice so I slid out. Previous day I fell doing a half pipe, almost fell doing some moguls, and another time trying to avoid an entire line of about 5 people literally just sitting in the middle of the run where only the outer edge of the run was clear. Some other people proceeded to crash after me due to the obstruction.

I like to stick to faster runs with no beginners and people who can at least ski quickly. Flame on.
 
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fuzzybabybunny said:
So to answer your questions.

Yes, I've gone skiing 4 times (8 days). Last 4 days have been racking up 20,000ft+ in elevation change, skipping lunch, just snacking on power bars up the lifts. I can ski parallel without thinking. I can stop whenever I want given enough stopping distance. I never learned the wedge - just started on parallel because that's what my friends told me to do and the wedge is both slow and tiring. I can't do moguls very well because I can't get the timing right yet, and I don't like them anyway. My friends, especially the very experienced ones, are surprised at my ability considering this is my first season, and I believe that skiing with more advanced friends have helped me a ton. Last time we went my friend pointed at a guy. He's got his skis kind wide, tips pointed a bit inward, but he's doing side to side carves, albeit traveling slowly and the side to side transition is not very elegant, but at least he's not wedging. "See that? That's what I would expect from someone's who's only skiid 3 times."

First 2 weekends I was crashing all over the place but this trial by fire has helped a lot in the learning process. I now keep up no problem on regular, non mogul runs with skiiers who have 10 years under their belt. I can almost ski with my knees completely stuck together, but I widen my stance and drop down lower while leaning forward for the fast stuff. I never have issues with crossing my skis or not going parallel. I have the hip movement and the alternating left and right mostly down now. I can pick up someone's fallen pole from the ground in the middle of a carve without really thinking. If I slide over something weird that destabilizes me I can usually lift one ski, ski on the other ski for a second or so while I work on replanting the lifted ski. When I'm making a sharp turn at 45mph I'm just a couple feet above the ground due to my lean. Yes, I know, these are all just beginner skills and skill level can only be measured by the time you've spent skiing. No way could a guy who's skied so few times be better than someone who has skied a year or more. There's no room for natural ability in this. Hard work and not being afraid to fall over and over and over and over also have nothing to do with this.

Skiid blacks all day today and fell twice. Once was the unexpected jump due to my lenses, another was as I was initiating a carve and I suddenly hit a patch of solid ice so I slid out. Previous day I fell doing a half pipe, almost fell doing some moguls, and another time trying to avoid an entire line of about 5 people literally just sitting in the middle of the run where only the outer edge of the run was clear. Some other people proceeded to crash after me due to the obstruction.

I like to stick to faster runs with no beginners and people who can at least ski quickly. Flame on.
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Somebody that knows just enough to be dangerous?
 
apac said:
Who cares how fast you are going? WTF? I live in colorado, ski every weekend and neither I or any of my friends have ever measured their speed and used it for a metric. Especially a metric of how well you ski. Skiing/boarding is about controlling your speed, and doing it gracefully. When I was 10 all I cared about was straight lining down the hill - are you 10? Oh wait ... snorgle ...

Dirigible is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. You have no business going that fast if you are wiping out going over rollers because you didn't see them. Your first responsibility is to ski safely.

I went skiing last weekend (Presidents day holiday weekend) and was so terrified that I'd run over one of the tourists that I finished the day early.
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lol at contrast with your orange goggles blamed for you not being able to see "ramps."

wtf.
 
YOu've been skiing 4 times, have gone near 60mph, claim you can "ski parallel without thinking", and all you care about is going faster?

A) Bullshit
B) If you're bombing the hill, I hope you enjoy Ski Patrol ripping your ticket.
C) If I came across you skiing like a moron I'd report you.
 
zinfamous said:
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lol at contrast with your orange goggles blamed for you not being able to see "ramps."

wtf.
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I can see that in all honesty. I have 4 different pairs of goggles depending on the day. You'd be surprised at how well you can see in different conditions with each lens. If its snowy/foggy/low vis then a almost clear lens....if its brighter out then something a bit darker. I've definitely fallen before from not seeing a slight change in terrain due to to dark of lens for the day.


im more curious how you know exactly how fast you are going. I've never seen a radar gun on a non race course before. Hence i've never even been measured to see my fastest speed and i honestly dont care either.



As for your question on how to go faster.....take a lesson. if you havent had one before you'll be surprised at all the little things they can teach ya to help. other than that....wax your skis with the right wax 🙂 Just be careful!
 
NetWareHead said:
This...sounds like a dream. So far the fastest mountain I've skied at was Sugarloaf in Maine where I clocked over 50 mph. It was perfect groomed conditions where you could charge forward with full confidence. Never went as fast as that day in my life. 60+ has to be unreal!
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:thumbsup: love the loaf, we used to hit 80+ during training when we could close off N Gage for the Super G or Downhill. heck you could prob eaisily hit 60+ on any trail you can access from longside spillway.


Going that fast is pretty fing scary, but it is a rush. however i dont recomend it unless you really know WTF you are doing. FBB you do not have the expirence to be doing it, sorry you dont, you may have picked up skiing quickly but from everything you have typed in this thread you are a danger to yourself and others on the mtn
 
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gorcorps said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/action/snowboarding/news/story?id=5965793




~40 people per year
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Its not the fact that skiing is dangerous and should somehow be outlawed. Since you have a motorcycle in your sig I will make a similar parallel.


Dude has never driven a bike before but buys a Busa. Goes to a non busa forum and talks about going 160 miles an hour and wanting more speed.


Its not about the actual act. Its about treating the sport with the respect it deserves or it will kill you.
 
Nebor said:
Lighten up Francis. It's skiing. It's on soft, powdery snow. No one gets hurt freakin' skiing. 🙄
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Ask Michael Kennedy about that - Dec 31, 1997

Tree jumped out in front of him
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This is a guy with 30+ years of skiing under his belt at all the better places in the North America and Europe.
 
Threads like this make me envious of people who have nice skiing within driving distance. I made the mistake of going skiing in PA yesterday after having been to Breckenridge in early February. Going down ice covered hills just isn't fun at all if you were at a real mountain a few weeks ago.
 
zinfamous said:
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lol at contrast with your orange goggles blamed for you not being able to see "ramps."

wtf.
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Wrong. I'll vouch for the OP on this one. Orange has a tendency to do that under certain conditions. They make different colored and different shaded lenses for a reason. I have pair of goggles that allow you to swap lenses to adjust for different light and snow conditions as well as day/night skiing.
 
Anubis said:
:thumbsup: love the loaf, we used to hit 80+ during training when we could close off N Gage for the Super G or Downhill. heck you could prob eaisily hit 60+ on any trail you can access from longside spillway.


Going that fast is pretty fing scary, but it is a rush. however i dont recomend it unless you really know WTF you are doing. FBB you do not have the expirence to be doing it, sorry you dont, you may have picked up skiing quickly but from everything you have typed in this thread you are a danger to yourself and others on the mtn
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Yeah I love the loaf, only been there once but I immediately placed it in my top 5 mtns. You race guys scare me...I don't know if I can go that fast. I've gone fast enough on my current set of skis where they begin chattering. Have a pair of 2009 Nordica Hotrod Afterburners, 178 cm long so when those wear out I'd like to upgrade to a faster and stiffer ski.
 
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