I love my Mac!

[KeypoX]

I get very pissed off in non-osx operating systems. Usually because of keyboard shortcuts. I'll do "command-`" and nothing happens or command-f, or command-t or command-c, etc.

Command-Q and Command-W are pretty addictive. Hard using other operating systems without those.

you guys are funny. Every OS does all the same things. Maybe the keys are a bit different but you can change that.

 

[SnottyScotty]

I think the best thing Apple did was start using an Intel chip. The Mac now gives us the best of both worlds. Best of both worlds, last night my wife had a cd she needed to open for a class she is taking. This CD is windows only so all she had to do is reboot the mac as a PC. I sure couldn't have done that on my old G3.

I recently started taking advantage of "Spaces" when I'm working on projects that involve cutting and pasting. Spaces also makes it easy to quit what I'm doing when my wife wants to check email and the latest entertainment gossip. I just click open up Safari and click on a different space for her to browse on and I can leave my work open.

 

[Heller]

i really want to game on my mbp, what should i be looking into, parallels 5 didn't work for me, any free alternatives?

 

[alfa147x]

I think the best thing Apple did was start using an Intel chip. The Mac now gives us the best of both worlds. Best of both worlds, last night my wife had a cd she needed to open for a class she is taking. This CD is windows only so all she had to do is reboot the mac as a PC. I sure couldn't have done that on my old G3.

I recently started taking advantage of "Spaces" when I'm working on projects that involve cutting and pasting. Spaces also makes it easy to quit what I'm doing when my wife wants to check email and the latest entertainment gossip. I just click open up Safari and click on a different space for her to browse on and I can leave my work open.

Check this out:
http://www.tuaw.com/2009/12/10/before-there-was-boot-camp-there-were-dos-compatibility-cards/

 

[TheStu]

i really want to game on my mbp, what should i be looking into, parallels 5 didn't work for me, any free alternatives?

There is Crossover Games which will run some games at almost native speeds. However, the absolute best way to do it is to run Windows natively using boot camp.

 

[alfa147x]

There is Crossover Games which will run some games at almost native speeds. However, the absolute best way to do it is to run Windows natively using boot camp.

The Sims 3
and
Modern Warfare I

Those run great

 

[OptotsshorP]

You are privileged to work on a Mac My school and the school Im working at, look the other way when someone talks about a Mac. Though, the ART dept has 5 G4s and one G3 that they use, and guess what, they have never had a problem with them. The Dells in the labs are always down for repair. LOL

What generation of iPod do you have?

 

[sourceninja]

you guys are funny. Every OS does all the same things. Maybe the keys are a bit different but you can change that.

Comand-l pisses me off the most. My haands use it without thinking. On windows it means typing in my password to unlock my desktop. Also there is no command-w equivilent in windows.

 

[Nothinman]

Comand-l pisses me off the most. My haands use it without thinking. On windows it means typing in my password to unlock my desktop. Also there is no command-w equivilent in windows.

Doesn't Cmd-W just close the current window? If so, Ctrl-W does that in a lot of apps. It's not 100% consistent since some developers like to do their own thing, but AFAIK it works in most things.

 

[sourceninja]

Very few apps outside of osx will run headless. I love the fact that I can keep downloads running in a browser without any minimized or open windows. Cmd - W and cmd -h are great for that.

 

[Nothinman]

Very few apps outside of windows will run headless. I love the fact that I can keep downloads running in a browser without any minimized or open windows. Cmd - W and cmd -h are great for that.

That's different than just wanting Ctrl-W to work, which it does. And I absolutely hate the fact that closing the last window of something in OS X doesn't exit the app.

 

[sourceninja]

That's different than just wanting Ctrl-W to work, which it does. And I absolutely hate the fact that closing the last window of something in OS X doesn't exit the app.

Ok, it doesn't work as expected then. I used to hate it as well until I started to appreciate the advantages. Now I get very frustrated when I can't keep an app running without any windows. For example, a new browser window opens instantly because the app is already running. I have 4 gigs of ram on a machine that essentially is a large web browser/code editor. It's nice to keep those things in memory ready to go.

 

[TheStu]

The beauty of CMD+W is, as SourceNinja said, is that you can keep the program running in memory. There are some programs on Windows that will perform this behavior. uTorrent for example, when you click to close the window, the program simply goes to the system tray and still runs.

CMD+H is another example of being able to really get windows/apps out of the way.

 

[Nothinman]

Ok, it doesn't work as expected then. I used to hate it as well until I started to appreciate the advantages. Now I get very frustrated when I can't keep an app running without any windows. For example, a new browser window opens instantly because the app is already running. I have 4 gigs of ram on a machine that essentially is a large web browser/code editor. It's nice to keep those things in memory ready to go.

I can't say I know anyone else that expects that behavior, quite the opposite actually, but then I don't know many Mac people. And with Win7 it shouldn't be a big deal because if you pin the application to the taskbar it'll always keep the same icon position and with Superfetch it should stay in memory if you use it enough.

I personally just prefer to leave all of my apps running with their windows open on different desktops.

uTorrent for example, when you click to close the window, the program simply goes to the system tray and still runs.

uTorrent is a special case though because it's main purpose is to sit in the background and download things. It's not an app that you actually work in much.

CMD+H is another example of being able to really get windows/apps out of the way.

Which does what?

 

[sourceninja]

CMD+H hides a window completely. It is useful in cases where you don't want to minimize, and you don't want to close a window.

This is really not useful on any os but osx because of how OSX handles minimizing by default.

Example: firefox.

I have a window open, I want to hide it, but I don't want it to minimize to my task bar. CMD-W will close the window and the next time I click firefox I'll get my home page and not the last page I was on. CMD-H is like minimize to the dock icon and not special area most minimized apps go to.

I admit this is not something users expect. This is advanced functionality you have to learn to appreciate, similar to always having your menus on the top of the screen (another feature I love).

Because of OSX, I now have my gnome place all menu bars on the top of the screen.

 

[KeypoX]

The beauty of CMD+W is, as SourceNinja said, is that you can keep the program running in memory. There are some programs on Windows that will perform this behavior. uTorrent for example, when you click to close the window, the program simply goes to the system tray and still runs.

CMD+H is another example of being able to really get windows/apps out of the way.

Apples memory management is a copout, I do believe apple will catch up with everyone else though in caching/memory management. Hopefully something better than what is used today. I am learning to just leave programs open, but would prefer it to be cached automatically.

Cmd H, hides windows. Its like minimizing but not shown to be minimized.

I was just testing the opening of word on mac and its very slow but of course if you close it, not quit, then 'reopen' (really just maximizing it), it is very fast. Wish they could figure out how to make it fast before opening though.

 

[KeypoX]

Because of OSX, I now have my gnome place all menu bars on the top of the screen.

you tried that experimental addon? Or are you talking about just regular gnome menu bars?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/global_menu

 

[TheStu]

Apples memory management is a copout, I do believe apple will catch up with everyone else though in caching/memory management. Hopefully something better than what is used today. I am learning to just leave programs open, but would prefer it to be cached automatically.

Cmd H, hides windows. Its like minimizing but not shown to be minimized.

I was just testing the opening of word on mac and its very slow but of course if you close it, not quit, then 'reopen' (really just maximizing it), it is very fast. Wish they could figure out how to make it fast before opening though.

Not defensive at all, but how is Apple's memory management a copout? I don't really know enough about all this to know the differences, so if you could explain, that would be great.

 

[sourceninja]

you tried that experimental addon? Or are you talking about just regular gnome menu bars?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/global_menu

I was using http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/ which appears to be the same as your link. It works 'for the most part'.

Its the one thing I miss from KDE3 (didn't work that great there either)

 

[Nothinman]

Not defensive at all, but how is Apple's memory management a copout? I don't really know enough about all this to know the differences, so if you could explain, that would be great.

He probably means that those methods for hiding apps but keeping them running is a copout because OS X doesn't have anything like SuperFetch that will automatically populate the filesystem cache with your most used things.

 

[sourceninja]

Although firefox opening a new window is still faster then firefox starting up. Even with superfetch.

CMD-H really shines with vmware fusion. I open a VM a few linux vm's. they are console only and I don't want to see them, I just want them to run in the background. Minimizing them increases the size of my dock. CMD-H makes they stay running and disappear.

 

[Nothinman]

Although firefox opening a new window is still faster then firefox starting up. Even with superfetch.

CMD-H really shines with vmware fusion. I open a VM a few linux vm's. they are console only and I don't want to see them, I just want them to run in the background. Minimizing them increases the size of my dock. CMD-H makes they stay running and disappear.

That's not an issue for me because VMware Server is always in the background. Does Fusion not have a way to start it up headless?

 

[sourceninja]

That's not an issue for me because VMware Server is always in the background. Does Fusion not have a way to start it up headless?

It doesn't that I'm aware of.

I use 3 vm almost everyday. I have a windows VM that I use with Unity to run vsphere client, IE for testing, and the formfusion client. Then I have a ubuntu server vm I use for my php development, and another ubuntu vm I use from time to time as a desktop for testing.

Obviously I never see the Windows desktop because of unity. But the ubuntu one is always there unless I minimize or hide it.

 

[Nothinman]

It doesn't that I'm aware of.

I use 3 vm almost everyday. I have a windows VM that I use with Unity to run vsphere client, IE for testing, and the formfusion client. Then I have a ubuntu server vm I use for my php development, and another ubuntu vm I use from time to time as a desktop for testing.

Obviously I never see the Windows desktop because of unity. But the ubuntu one is always there unless I minimize or hide it.

That sucks but is a pretty special case. Now that you mention it, I think VMware Workstation had the same limitation last time I used it, but that was years ago and on Windows so who knows.

Why not do the PHP stuff directly on OS X? I would imagine it could be setup close enough to copy over without any changes needed.

 

[KeypoX]

Not defensive at all, but how is Apple's memory management a copout? I don't really know enough about all this to know the differences, so if you could explain, that would be great.

For my searching last year or so, i couldnt find any type of caching for osx, besides keeping programs in memory until you 'quit'. Pretty much what nothinman said.

I mean copout because obviously they knew about the technology, and obviously they will move that way eventually (maybe). So by releasing another OS (snow) without this feature or a reworked/better, was a copout.

What im hoping is that they make it better, because honestly the windows one isnt that great. It could be due to some limitations i dont understand.

He probably means that those methods for hiding apps but keeping them running is a copout because OS X doesn't have anything like SuperFetch that will automatically populate the filesystem cache with your most used things.

I was using http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/ which appears to be the same as your link. It works 'for the most part'.

Its the one thing I miss from KDE3 (didn't work that great there either)

I will try it again its been a while since i tried it.