I love being a tech-savvy parent >:D

[Vic Vega]

I avoided reading this train wreck of a thread all week. Read the OP and skimmed the replies. Some of you are just young and inexperienced - and it shows.

 

[sixone]

As someone who really doesn't have a problem with what the OP is doing, I have to follow along with Tweak and say to please stop sugar-coating everything.

Fritzo was like "I'm not lying". Yes you are.

And here you go saying its not keeping them paranoid. Yes he is. Keeping her safe and keeping her paranoid are not mutually exclusive.

It's really silly that you some of you guys really try to perpetuate that just because he may have done a *good* thing means that suddenly base words suddenly lose all meaning (lying and paranoia). These aren't abstract concepts. They are words with solid definitions and meanings, and some poster's desires to for some reason try to twist it just because they feel they are on the right side of justice is absurdity incarnate.

Paranoia != lying. If you think they're similar, look 'em up.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Paranoia != lying. If you think they're similar, look 'em up.

I never said they were similar. I'll give you a cookie if you can point out where I said lying is the same as paranoia. Or you can just come back when your reading comprehension improves.

 

[JPS35]

Change title to "I love being a creeper controlling parent who's afraid to be open with my children!"

Believe me, you acting like big Brother and spying on your kids is not at all going to help your bond with them or their trust in you.

Welcome to parenthood...Gee, a 16 year old who doesn't like his/her parents, thinks they don't trust him/her, and finds them to be overbearing assholes...that's unheard of.

 

[sixone]

I never said they were similar. I'll give you a cookie if you can point out where I said lying is the same as paranoia. Or you can just come back when your reading comprehension improves.

You responded to a post I made about paranoia, with a bunch of crap about lying.

You made the connection. Back it up, buttercup.

 

[Fritzo]

LOL---you people are still talking about this? I used technology to catch my daughter doing something that she wasn't supposed to do and it worked very well. I love how this exploded into some kind of "dad is going to watch her every movement and she's going to grow up hating me and get tattoos" or something.

Here's cliffs of what happened and the result:

1) Daughter has a history of being late for her curfew.
2) Daughter went to a concert, we extended her curfew and she was supposed to be home by 12:00am
3) 12:15am she called and said traffic or a train or something was holding her up.
4) I found this odd and used Lookout to lock on to her phone and found she was in another county 30 miles from where she should have been.

I do no use this to track my daughters movements, I do not keep tabs on her every action, and I do let her have a reasonable amount of privacy. When I do see or hear something suspicious, I do check up on it. Now that she knows I have the ability to check on her if something doesn't sound right, she will think twice about pulling a fast one.

No Big Brother, no child abuse, nothing nazi-related...it's OK guys, reallly.We can drop the subject now. I just thought it was cool using technology to catch my kid doing something wrong.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

You responded to a post I made about paranoia, with a bunch of crap about lying.

You made the connection. Back it up, buttercup.

I made no such connection. You are the one who suddenly said that paranoia does not equal lying, which I never disagreed with, but you implied I said just the opposite.

Like I've said before, your inability to comprehend written words is not my fault. I made no connection in any way that you've stated, and do not need to back up anything. Oh sure, you'll keep saying posts like the above because you're too cocky to admit you're wrong, but too much of a wimp to just bow out. So you'll keep flapping away, thinking if you keep saying it, it will somehow come true.

You messed up (again). You were called on it (again). No amount of you saying otherwise will change that.

At the base of the issue, you said he *wasn't* keeping his kid paranoid. Again, this is simply false. If you don't understand that, then I doubt your ability to comprehend any of this post. In fact, Fritzo obviously agrees because he used it in his own OP:

I believe good parenting involves instilling just the right amount of paranoia :twisted:

But go ahead keep backpedaling.

 

[sixone]

I made no such connection. You are the one who suddenly said that paranoia does not equal lying, which I never disagreed with, but you implied I said just the opposite.

Like I've said before, your inability to comprehend written words is not my fault. I made no connection in any way that you've stated, and do not need to back up anything. Oh sure, you'll keep saying posts like the above because you're too cocky to admit you're wrong, but too much of a wimp to just bow out. So you'll keep flapping away, thinking if you keep saying it, it will somehow come true.

You messed up (again). You were called on it (again). No amount of you saying otherwise will change that.

At the base of the issue, you said he *wasn't* keeping his kid paranoid. Again, this is simply false. If you don't understand that, then I doubt your ability to comprehend any of this post. In fact, Fritzo obviously agrees because he used it in his own OP:

And once again, you try to pin your inability to form coherent posts on others.

And your sarcasm detector is broken.

 

[Mixolydian]

I avoided reading this train wreck of a thread all week.

Train wreck, indeed. Parents clearly have all the answers and never make mistakes! Once you become a parent, you are officially a perfect human being.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

And once again, you try to pin your inability to form coherent posts on others.

And your sarcasm detector is broken.

Again, you keep saying crap hoping that something sticks. You messed up, own up, buttercup. Stop with the backpedaling.

 

[sixone]

Again, you keep saying crap hoping that something sticks. You messed up, own up, buttercup. Stop with the backpedaling.

I used as many small words as I could. Sorry it didn't work for you.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I used as many small words as I could. Sorry it didn't work for you.

You can keep saying stuff like that all you want. You're still factually wrong and nothing can change that. You're just being sore over it. :whiste:

 

[sixone]

You can keep saying stuff like that all you want. You're still factually wrong and nothing can change that. You're just being sore over it. :whiste:

Say it as many times as you need, to feel that it's true. I want you to sleep well tonight.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Say it as many times as you need, to feel that it's true. I want you to sleep well tonight.

Too bad you have to settle for feelz. I'm factually correct so I don't have to "feel" anything. I get the pleasure of simply knowing

But thanks for your concern for my sleep cycle. I hope you sleep well too.

 

[sixone]

Too bad you have to settle for feelz. I'm factually correct so I don't have to "feel" anything. I get the pleasure of simply knowing

But thanks for your concern for my sleep cycle. I hope you sleep well too.

Say it one more time. Pretty please?

 

[apac]

The tracking stuff... ehh I think that'll get you in trouble in the long run, it may make her lose her trust in you.

Regarding her curfew behavior though, she obviously doesn't think it's that important. The better solution for parents, IMO, is to back up your rules. If she's got a problem being late to curfew it's because it's not a high enough priority for her. 16 year olds should not get very much slack because they WILL take advantage of it. First time she misses it, a warning. Second time, a month of no car use. Third time, 2 months, etc. Pretty soon "sure I'll drive you guys home, my parents won't mind" will turn into "we HAVE to be out of there by 11:30 cause I will lose my car if I'm home after 12". The job of the parent is to give their kids just enough leeway to make mistakes, but not so much that they don't learn from those mistakes.

 

[ch33zw1z]

LOL---you people are still talking about this? I used technology to catch my daughter doing something that she wasn't supposed to do and it worked very well. I love how this exploded into some kind of "dad is going to watch her every movement and she's going to grow up hating me and get tattoos" or something.

Here's cliffs of what happened and the result:

1) Daughter has a history of being late for her curfew.
2) Daughter went to a concert, we extended her curfew and she was supposed to be home by 12:00am
3) 12:15am she called and said traffic or a train or something was holding her up.
4) I found this odd and used Lookout to lock on to her phone and found she was in another county 30 miles from where she should have been.

I do no use this to track my daughters movements, I do not keep tabs on her every action, and I do let her have a reasonable amount of privacy. When I do see or hear something suspicious, I do check up on it. Now that she knows I have the ability to check on her if something doesn't sound right, she will think twice about pulling a fast one.

No Big Brother, no child abuse, nothing nazi-related...it's OK guys, reallly.We can drop the subject now. I just thought it was cool using technology to catch my kid doing something wrong.

 

[sixone]

Mmmmm...I do love the original recipe.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

No car, phone, ipad, and Macbook for a week. Going 30 miles away from where you are supposed to be is kind of a big deal. If we didn't have tracking and she drove into a ditch somewhere, we would never find her.



She uses my car. She's only 16 and didn't get home until nearly 12:30am. We have a curfew law saying anyone under 18 can not be out without a parent/guardian after 12am.

And what was your punishment for lying?

 

[Fritzo]

And what was your punishment for lying?

I had my Atari 2600 and 13" B&W TV taken away.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You responded to a post I made about paranoia, with a bunch of crap about lying.

You made the connection. Back it up, buttercup.

No, he agreed with Red Storm's #221. Lying is a method employed. Paranoia is the wanted result out of the daughter. The two are separate.

 

[JPS35]

LOL---you people are still talking about this? I used technology to catch my daughter doing something that she wasn't supposed to do and it worked very well. I love how this exploded into some kind of "dad is going to watch her every movement and she's going to grow up hating me and get tattoos" or something.

Here's cliffs of what happened and the result:

1) Daughter has a history of being late for her curfew.
2) Daughter went to a concert, we extended her curfew and she was supposed to be home by 12:00am
3) 12:15am she called and said traffic or a train or something was holding her up.
4) I found this odd and used Lookout to lock on to her phone and found she was in another county 30 miles from where she should have been.

I do no use this to track my daughters movements, I do not keep tabs on her every action, and I do let her have a reasonable amount of privacy. When I do see or hear something suspicious, I do check up on it. Now that she knows I have the ability to check on her if something doesn't sound right, she will think twice about pulling a fast one.

No Big Brother, no child abuse, nothing nazi-related...it's OK guys, reallly.We can drop the subject now. I just thought it was cool using technology to catch my kid doing something wrong.

Fritzo, you have nothing to justify or explain; you are being a responsible parent.

 

[Slammy1]

While I agree with the OP on some points, they could do what my dad did. Didn't matter why I was late, I was punished. Instills responsibility and forethought.

 

[lxskllr]

While I agree with the OP on some points, they could do what my dad did. Didn't matter why I was late, I was punished. Instills responsibility and forethought.

Zero tolerance, eh? I don't know that instills much of anything, other than resentment of thoughtless stupidity. It's a cop out at any level, and is used so Walmart workers can administer law. It takes what should be a thoughtful process, and turns it into a basic checklist.

 

[Fritzo]

I used as many small words as I could. Sorry it didn't work for you.

Come on you two, knock it off. This was just supposed to be a funny story. I don't want it to come to blows.