I lived next door to a fugitive!

[bigvince]

some realy strange events took place last night at my home. I own a two flat acroos the street form a gravel parking lot and bar i rent out the first floor apartment and live on the second. when i pulled in front of my house i saw a ryder rental truck parked in the ally and some guys coming out of the building carrying furniture and boxes from the first floor apartment so I walk up to them and ask whats going on and i'm a little more than curious because the guy i rent the aparment to hasn't been around in like three months and owes me two months rent. so i ask the guy and he says he's Ray's brother and that Ray's moving in with his sister who's sick so i say "well when the fvck is he gonna pay the two moths rent he owes me!" the guy say i don't know and blows me off. so now i'm really pissed and i call the cops to stop them from moving his stuff out so i can hold it till he pays me ... well i call the cops and give them Rays info and they tell me that Ray is a fugitive and has been on the run for 8 years for scaming old ladies out of thire homes and money! so the cops come and arrest all the guys moving stuff out of the apartment and make them put it back inside. so i ask the cops how i can recoop the two months rent and they say that i should forget about it cause he's not gonna pay(ray that is). so i tell the cop well im gonnna sell his $hit and they tell me i can't because it's all evidence and that i can't even go into the apartment cause it's a crime scean...can you fvckn belive it now im out like $1500.00 and can't do anything about it! you guys got any ideas?

 

[Locutus of Board]

The only man that should not be judged by the company he keeps is a warden.

<<EDIT>>

That was just a quote Vince.

Just be careful and fully co-operate with the law. You don't want any BS abetting, harboring fugitive (knowingly or unknowingly) charges.

 

[bigvince]

what the hell does that mean....

 

[Chef0083]

I don't know what he means,, I gues it means there's no much you can do. Be careful cause if they wanted I'm sure the cops could find a way to consider you an acompliss and charge you with harboring a fugitive. Sorry man..

 

[bigvince]

that sucks i didn't know who he was and i'm the guy that turned him in!:| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :|

 

[Chef0083]

I know what your saying,, I'm just saying if you did something rash and pissed the cops off they wouldn't have much troube making you &quot;part&quot; of the whole thing. I think eventuall the stuff wshould be released to you.

 

[bigvince]

do you know of somthing like this happening before?

 

[Chef0083]

Nothing too specific. I knew a guy who &quot;knew&quot;(according to the cops) someone who was a fugitive. They asked him about it and he didn't know who they were talking about. They threatened him and almost charged him. In the end,, they connected them becuase of a surveilance video from a convience store and &quot;assumed&quot; since they were talking while waiting in line that they &quot;knew&quot; each other. I guess the moral would be to not tempt them to try something like that. It will suck but I think cooperating is the best thing to do.

 

[Crysla]

Awwww Vince that sux....but I have to agree at some point you may get the stuff back and be able to sell it. But for now, you just have to wait. That's the hardest part. Ask the police if you get it back after the are done.

Princess

 

[cxim]

sounds like justice to me.

did he call you &quot;daddy&quot; too

 

[Wangel]

I rent houses and I do a credit and criminal check on every potential tennant. This weeds out the good from the bad. I've found that you can't judge people from their appearance or present job. I've had some police officers that didn't have a dime to their name and were already garnished to the hilt. Nothing left to get. Likewise, I've had some trash collectors or self employeed people with very good standing. Best thing to do is to get them to give you their social security number on the rental application form. Then you can run a background check. Since I started to do this, I've weeded out all the 'riff-raff'.

 

[bigvince]

cxim

still an asshole i see....

could it be that your fixation with fathers comes from the lack of a male rolemodle in your life...ya know iv'e heard that leads to homsexuality...

 

[Chef0083]

Get him Vince... hehehehehehehe..

 

[bigvince]

wangle

i ran a credit check on him and he had good credit as far as going through his criminal history i don't do those because i, haveing been in a situation where my crimnal history would have prevented me from renting an apartment, belive that it's an invasion of privacy and really not fair so i took him at his word but i guess that just not enough now a days

 

[FettsBabe]

File a action in small claims court. Of course, consult an attorney first, so you know your rights. After the evidence is used, you may be able to sell it.

 

[bigvince]

FETTS BABE


thank you for the advice, in the short time i have seen you on this board you have been nothing short of exceptionaly helpfull!

 

[snoogans]

*ahem*

REWARD MONEY!!!!

if there is any

 

[bigvince]

hey i didn't think about that!

thank snoogans!

i'm gonna call the US marshals office right now!

 

[Psychoholic]

It should all work out eventually if you use small claims court. The wheels of justice just turn so damn slow it's a wonder they ever get anything accomplished.

 

[zippy]

You really should let it go...if go after this guy, not only will you most likely not get your 1,500 but his defense could sue you or something...

Let them do the crime scene deal and then ask if you could sell his stuff to recoup the 1,500...but give it some time until they are done with the investigation.

 

[Adul]

isn't fettsbabe a paralegal?

 

[bigvince]

you know i would file a suit against him but the FBI been lookin for him for like 8 years and havn't caught up with him yet so what good would a law suit do if they can't find the guy to start.

 

[AndrewR]

You can file the suit and take a default judgment though you'll have to perfect service via publication (if the police cannot find him, how are you going to give him the lawsuit?? ). Basically, you take an ad out declaring the lawsuit -- I'm not quite sure what steps you have to take before doing that, probably an affidavit stating that a reasonable effort to locate him did not locate him (shouldn't be too hard with all of law enforcement looking for him). If he doesn't see it, too bad. When he doesn't answer the suit or appear in court, you apply for a default (not sure how small claims works, I'm talking about regular court here) and receive a judgment from the court for what you were demanding. Then, you keep that judgment on record until that evidence is released from police custody, and you can levy the judgment against the property, most likely through an auction sale.

It's not exactly easy so talking to a local lawyer is your best bet. There may be better options available. I would check into a reward, also, but he has to be caught for that to work. I'm not sure how common it is for non-violent offenders to have rewards out for them though. Call the police and ask for the detective in charge of the case -- see what they tell you about recouping your losses. Worth a shot, at least.

 

[snoogans]

guess the reward thing didn't pan out

Get the news/media involved...call your local news station and tell 'em your story. They'll do one of those segments.

Feds don't like exposure and try to stay low...come busting through their door w/ the media and they'll pay you to shutup

 

[Gizmology]

I have no idea what to do. But call 1-800-GG-LIDDY. He'll help you out, just tell him your situation.

-Giz