I like remasters

[Rage187]

many of the games they are remastering for the new gen, I never got to play. I was xbox, now I am Sony. I want all the remasters of stuff I missed. So far, all of them have been amazing.

Same thing goes for the games that came out at the end of the previous gen. GTA5, SR3, and soon to be Darksiders 2. They looked like crap. Darksiders looked so bad I stopped playing it. I saw the core game and its mechanics and liked it. But that graphics were awful. I want those mechanics but prettier.

The only remaster I dislike is Borderlands. It always looked fine. It didn't need to be remade. The presequel came out on last gen just so they could get double purchases on the remaster. That to me was blatant and douchey.

I expect UBI to remaster the last gen only assassin's creed next.

 

[purbeast0]

i hate them. i simply won't support them for the most part because i hate the whole idea of double dipping. the only way i would consider it is buying a game used so that the dev sees not a penny of my money.

i get why people would like them, the OP included, and maybe i'm in the minority because i've always had the console i wanted so i never missed games that i wanted to play, but i just won't support it. i'd rather them spend money on making a NEW game instead of rehashing shit.

i mean, didn't ANOTHER resident evil 1 remake come out on xb1/ps4? that's what, 3 or 4 remakes of that same game? same with all the nintendo crap. how many versions of super mario brothers 1 have they released?

ratchet and clank is one of my favorite sony franchises of all time, and when i heard the PS4 r&c game was going to simply be a remake of part 1, i /facepalmed. not a chance i will support that crap. give me a new game instead.

 

[Qbah]

You should have played Darksiders 1/2 on the PC

I'm happy they did The Last of Us on PS4. I have both a PS3 and PS4, but could only bear Uncharted games on the PS3... hoping for Beyond Two Souls and Heavy Rain

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I don't get many of them, honestly, but I'm playing through the Final Fantasy X HD Remaster with the wife now and it is fantastic; same great game, but it doesn't look like hot garbage blown up on a 65" screen. As long as they're done properly, by truly taking the time to improve the original assets and make them work with modern widescreen displays that may not have been supported originally, I think it's a great thing. It helps that I got FFXHD for $14, so I didn't feel like I was getting ripped off on a double-dip. With it coming out again on PS4 for $50... yeah, that's pushing it. But revisiting old classics without having to dig up old consoles from the closet? Count me in.

 

[smackababy]

I will only get them if they have been heavily discounted and I missed the first time around or lost the disk. FFX remaster was worth it, used at GameStop. Because, I don't want to put the PS2 back out and do this.

Tomb Raider on next gen? Not a f'n chance! GTA5? Maybe for $20.

 

[Rage187]

Tomb Raider was phenomenal on the new gen.

 

[Aikouka]

It helps that I got FFXHD for $14, so I didn't feel like I was getting ripped off on a double-dip. With it coming out again on PS4 for $50... yeah, that's pushing it.

I'm probably going to sell my PS3 version to get the PS4 one. Honestly, I just don't like using the PS3 as much because it's a bit slow and clunky. I've been turned off a lot by the horrid PSN Store implementation. Although, it will always be better for Blu-ray playback so long as the PS4 lacks a media remote.

Darksiders looked so bad I stopped playing it. I saw the core game and its mechanics and liked it. But that graphics were awful. I want those mechanics but prettier.

I remember when I had a PS3 hooked up to my monitor, and I decided to try Darksiders on it. It looked awful when I sat that close to it, and it didn't help that I also had Darksiders for the PC, so I knew how good it could look.

The only remaster I dislike is Borderlands. It always looked fine. It didn't need to be remade. The presequel came out on last gen just so they could get double purchases on the remaster. That to me was blatant and douchey.

The Pre-sequel came out on the 360 and PS3 because it was a cheap (to develop), low-risk game. The game came out on the exact same platforms as Borderlands 2 (it uses the same engine), which reduces complexity, and reduces development time. That was unfortunate for console gamers that had "moved on" to the next-gen consoles, but it worked for PC gamers.

If I had to guess, they decided it was worthwhile to release the game on next-gen consoles because the demand was palpable.

 

[purbeast0]

Tomb Raider was phenomenal on the new gen.

tomb raider was phenomenal on the old gen 1/2 a year (or whatever it was) before it was on current gen.

 

[Lil Frier]

I think it's pretty easy to see why people like them. Many missed out on the games in the previous generation, and they want a chance to go back. In the case of Halo: TMCC, even though the launch (and 4 months after) sucked from a connectivity standpoint, I'm glad I have the story on my One now. I liked being able to go back and play those games again, especially since I was too wrapped up in the Halo 2 multiplayer to finish its campaign as a teen. Throw in the remastered cutscenes and levels, plus the multi-game playlists, and it's a great experience.

I missed out on the Metro series as well, so I picked up Metro: Redux, though I ended up not playing it. The remakes I'll buy new are going to be VERY few and far-between, and will almost entirely involve having a series in one set, like with TMCC and Redux. I want to play the Kingdom Hearts re-releases on the PS3 because they put several games across several devices onto one console and 2 games. If they put them out as a combo on the One, I'd love them there.

It's cheaper and easier for me to get some of these games as Xbox One remasters than it is to go get a 360 or PS3, then go buy all of the games across several discs. I think some of them excessive (like doing Tomb Raider a year after release--should have done it in 2015 as an add-in for Rise of the Tomb Raider, like with Bayonetta 2). They work for old, highly popular series, but some of them are just crap that let the developers be lazy and re-release content without having to put any real thought or effort into the remakes (see: Sleeping Dogs, GTA, DMC, TR, Metro, SR4).

Some I wouldn't mind seeing brought to the One/current generation: Assassin's Creed (as a massive compilation, as I only played the first two), the ENTIRETY of Borderlands (I find The Handsome Collection to be garbage), Kingdom Hearts (especially for the One, to get Xbox gamers the story that's been mostly a Sony exclusive for more than a decade), Gears of War (to prep folks for the new one), Banjo-Kazooie (as a true Rare remaster).

P.S.: Even though I hate many of the franchise's installments, it'd be really sweet if Activision did a Halo: TMCC-style compilation for CoD. Ideally, it'd be an all-in-one release (over multiple discs, of course), but even if they went developer-specific with two releases (IW and Treyarch), that would be cool.

 

[Fulle]

I owned both the PS3 and PS4 versions of Tomb Raider. There were areas on the PS3 version that would drop to 14-20 FPS, and some noticeable low res textures in places, but I still really liked the game. A big issue for me, was the controller as well, since I don't like the DS3 for gun-play. I hooked up the DS4 to my PS3 to play Tomb Raider before the "definitive edition" was released, and liked playing on the DS4 a LOT more, even tough I was tied to a wired USB connection.

The PS4 version has quite a few visual improvements, in the lighting engine, textures, and effects, and it runs silky smooth between 45-60 FPS at all times. The DS4 was also a MUCH more enjoyable controller to play the game with.

It's a lot nicer experience, honestly. If you have the PS3/Xbox360 version of the game already, it's worth considering picking up the PS4 version, especially since I've seen it on sale for $20-30 often. For someone who didn't have the PS3 version, it's a solid game.

Anyway, though, I like these "remasters". If more of my favorite PS3 games are ported over, then I'll be able to finally retire the console. Plus performance on the PS4 is a lot better. On the development side, it's cheap to do, and they can outsource the work to small studios, so that it doesn't delay new projects.

I don't see a downside to PS4/Xbox One remasters/ports being made, honestly.

That said, I can see the frustration that PS4 and Xbox One don't have a lot of fresh new content yet. 2014 was a slow year for Xbox One and PS4, and 2015 seems like it'll have some droughts in it's release schedule too. These remasters actually just help to improve that situation more than hurt it, tho, since in the gaps between big new games, you can at least have some decent stuff to play.

 

[cmdrdredd]

tomb raider was phenomenal on the old gen 1/2 a year (or whatever it was) before it was on current gen.

But it looked like shit on PS3 and 360 IMO (I played it on PC).

 

[purbeast0]

But it looked like shit on PS3 and 360 IMO (I played it on PC).

didn't look like shit on 360. i played it on a 120" screen and it looked great.

that doesn't mean that PC (and ps4 and xbox1) don't look better graphically though. it obviously does. but just because it looks better on those doesn't automatically mean "it looks like shit" on other platforms.

 

[purbeast0]

That said, I can see the frustration that PS4 and Xbox One don't have a lot of fresh new content yet. 2014 was a slow year for Xbox One and PS4, and 2015 seems like it'll have some droughts in it's release schedule too. These remasters actually just help to improve that situation more than hurt it, tho, since in the gaps between big new games, you can at least have some decent stuff to play.

playing a year+ old game that i have already beaten does not excite me in the least. i know it does to some, and as i said earlier, i may be in the minority, but i have 0 interest in playing the game again. if i wanted to play it again, i'd hook up my old console and play it. not wait for a "remaster" to come out and let the devs double dip on my pockets. i personally think it IS holding back the gen though. the time porting these games could be spent on fresh content instead of yet more rehashed stuff.

 

[Lil Frier]

The thing is, they aren't necessarily releasing these games just so older people can replay them. You have to also consider that many just missed out on some of these games, so they're being ported for that reason as much as anything. The original Xbox and Halo are older than my younger brothers (the younger of the two is also younger than Halo 2), so they didn't get to experience those games. TMCC lets them play the whole Master Chief story, which they couldn't have otherwise.

I missed out on a lot of the AC games (mostly by choice). If they did an anthology release on the One, I'd probably pick it up. The same goes for quite a few other releases, though I don't intend to buy them.

 

[Sulaco]

That said, I can see the frustration that PS4 and Xbox One don't have a lot of fresh new content yet. 2014 was a slow year for Xbox One and PS4, and 2015 seems like it'll have some droughts in it's release schedule too. These remasters actually just help to improve that situation more than hurt it, tho, since in the gaps between big new games, you can at least have some decent stuff to play.

Yes, nothing like paying (nearly) full price for the same experience I've already had and paid full price for previously. But now it's SHINIER!



"Remastering" a decade plus old game is one thing. Doing it for a game a year old (in the case of the new Tomb Raider or TLoU) is just shameless.
And it's telling commentary on what a sad shape the current gen libraries are in that there are people actually championing this practice because "Lara's hair waves more realistically now! And look at her new FRECKLES! Take my $40!"

 

[Rage187]

I would have never played TLoU had it not come to the PS4. Because...I didn't have a PS3. See, it's not shameless.

 

[mmntech]

"Remastering" a decade plus old game is one thing. Doing it for a game a year old (in the case of the new Tomb Raider or TLoU) is just shameless.
And it's telling commentary on what a sad shape the current gen libraries are in that there are people actually championing this practice because "Lara's hair waves more realistically now! And look at her new FRECKLES! Take my $40!"

I don't really have an issue with this. It's not like they're asking you to pay the full $60, or forcing you to buy the newer version. Some people may not have played the game first time around. Tomb Raider also looked very nice on PC compared to the PS3 version.

TLoU, however, was full price IIRC. That's why I didn't buy it.

My problem with this generation is how heavy it is on remasters. As much as I like those games, that's not why I bought a PS4. A lot of the new content coming out though, especially from the big publishers, is just uninspiring.

 

[Lil Frier]

Agreed, it's annoying how every half-popular game is getting remade. There's not much reason for re-releases of games like DMC, DMC4, Sleeping Dogs, and the Metro games. It seems that a lot of developers either have no new ideas ready, or they needed to quickly throw SOMETHING out for the new generation, while working on new IP.

 

[clok1966]

Agreed, it's annoying how every half-popular game is getting remade. There's not much reason for re-releases of games like DMC, DMC4, Sleeping Dogs, and the Metro games. It seems that a lot of developers either have no new ideas ready, or they needed to quickly throw SOMETHING out for the new generation, while working on new IP.

solution: quit buying them, they wouldn't make them if people didn't buy them. And for people who don't like, you are not buying them (I assume) so you are out nothing, why even complain?

I own all the consoles (I'm an idiot, the 2 new ones have jack and squat worth buying them for atm, yet I did), i missed several very good PS2 games in the past (ICO/shadow) the early GoW games, etc.. I picked several up on the PS3 (most for like $15 new in shrink wrap), considering its 2 or more games for that price i just cant see a downside, unless, as some say, they played and own it already. I fence sat on Last Of us, as I had the PS3 version (gamefly sale, $12.99) that I have not had time to play, so when i bought my PS4 (during black Friday when they had the 3 game pack and $50 off) i almost bought it, but got a different game. I guess if its taking time from developing other games its not a good thing, but most are done by studios that just do this.. they "enhance" old games.

pretty much no big deal to me, no cash out of my pocket if I don't want it, and If i do, i buy it. Maybe I'm missing the point here, I do that alot

question on the topic if you read through my wall of text (sorry). Never much of a HALO fan, but, how is the remastered? I only have the original and the 4th one (you are not master chief, but a ODST) I didnt like HALO, but ODST was OK.. and I hear ODST was not that good (but the same people tell me HALO was) is it jsut a graphic upgrade like most, or is there other new stuff?

 

[cmdrdredd]

didn't look like shit on 360. i played it on a 120" screen and it looked great.

that doesn't mean that PC (and ps4 and xbox1) don't look better graphically though. it obviously does. but just because it looks better on those doesn't automatically mean "it looks like shit" on other platforms.

In my opinion it did.

 

[Lil Frier]

solution: quit buying them, they wouldn't make them if people didn't buy them. And for people who don't like, you are not buying them (I assume) so you are out nothing, why even complain?

I own all the consoles (I'm an idiot, the 2 new ones have jack and squat worth buying them for atm, yet I did), i missed several very good PS2 games in the past (ICO/shadow) the early GoW games, etc.. I picked several up on the PS3 (most for like $15 new in shrink wrap), considering its 2 or more games for that price i just cant see a downside, unless, as some say, they played and own it already. I fence sat on Last Of us, as I had the PS3 version (gamefly sale, $12.99) that I have not had time to play, so when i bought my PS4 (during black Friday when they had the 3 game pack and $50 off) i almost bought it, but got a different game. I guess if its taking time from developing other games its not a good thing, but most are done by studios that just do this.. they "enhance" old games.

pretty much no big deal to me, no cash out of my pocket if I don't want it, and If i do, i buy it. Maybe I'm missing the point here, I do that alot

question on the topic if you read through my wall of text (sorry). Never much of a HALO fan, but, how is the remastered? I only have the original and the 4th one (you are not master chief, but a ODST) I didnt like HALO, but ODST was OK.. and I hear ODST was not that good (but the same people tell me HALO was) is it jsut a graphic upgrade like most, or is there other new stuff?

I'm not buying these things. I bought two: One is good (Halo, though buggy), and the other (Metro) isn't able to hold my attention. You can say we're not out anything by not buying these games, but I think that's untrue. When developers work on these ports and remakes, they don't create new IP, which lessens to pool of quality titles at the start of a generation, and that plays into the reason you have nothing to play on the new consoles.

As for Halo: It's good, but frustrating. Halo 2 is the only one that has deep remastering on the One. The first game is the remastered 360 version, ported to the One. The third and fourth games are just ports from the 360. Halo 2 has several remade maps (I think 6 now, plus another coming via free DLC), and the entire campaign has had its visuals upgraded, including the awesome-looking cutscenes.

I've actually never played ODST myself, save for a bit of Firefight. They're ONLY releasing the campaign on the One, and they're giving it the same visual improvements that Halo 2: Anniversary got. However, the online play has been mediocre on its best days, and impossible on its worst. The co-op campaign has had hiccups itself, as have Achievements. It's one of the buggiest games I can remember getting, but I have also forgiven 343 some because of the consistent effort, the offered reparations, and the simple knowledge that they put together a highly complex collection of games.

 

[futurefields]

Just saw that there is a Borderlands Remastered coming to PS4/XB1

however, it only includes Borderlands 2 and the Pre-sequel

My favorite Borderlands was teh first one, shame they arent remastering that as well

 

[HeXen]

I'd prefer to remasters of old games like Anochronox, Omicron or Unreal.

 

[Lil Frier]

Just saw that there is a Borderlands Remastered coming to PS4/XB1

however, it only includes Borderlands 2 and the Pre-sequel

My favorite Borderlands was teh first one, shame they arent remastering that as well

Indeed, it's really stupid. I'd have interest in it if they gave us all 3 games, but without the first, there isn't a price I'd bother picking it up at. It's not that the first is my favorite (haven't finished the second yet, and don't have the third), but I want the whole story. If you're going to be too lazy to give us something new, at least give us EVERYTHING old.

I'd prefer to remasters of old games like Anochronox, Omicron or Unreal.

I'd love if Unreal came back to consoles. Unreal Championship was the first Xbox LIVE game I ever played, and I loved it. Sadly, the second was bad, and UT3 didn't have much of a community.

 

[Wingznut]

I'm all in on the remasters.

Tomb Raider. I never played it on previous generation. Picked it up for the Xbox One, and absolutely loved it.
Resident Evil. Played it back in the day, not interested in it now, will not buy it.
Metro. Played it on the PC, not interested in it now, will not buy it.
Halo. Played 1&2 to practically unhealthy levels, never played 3 or 4. Bought it, and absolutely loving it (except for the infamous matchmaking issues, of course.)
Borderlands. Never played it much, but I have it on the PC, so I'll just stick with that.
The Last of Us. Never played it on the PS3. If I had a PS4, it would definitely be in my collection.

Conclusion? I look at a remaster just like any other game... Do I want to play it? If so, then I purchase it. If not, then I don't. It's that simple, nothing to get all up-in-arms about.