I like managing computers making sure they run and everything is working, should I take computer science?

[gopunk]

Not only is CS not what you seem to be looking for, CS majors are a dime a dozen anymore (no idea if MIS/CIS/IT is any different).

i would argue that it's even more true for MIS/CIS/IT than CS.

 

[eshtog]

hmmm computer engineering sound can somebody give me more info on it? what jobs will I have and how much could I get paid start, also how
good is the job field for computer engineering?

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews
CS is for people who are very good with computers and algebra.

If you think writing Linux kernel drivers is "fun" CS is for you.

the linux kernel model is a mess.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: TerryMathews
CS is for people who are very good with computers and algebra.

If you think writing Linux kernel drivers is "fun" CS is for you.

the linux kernel model is a mess.

You are billy's bitch aren't you, ameesh!!!

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: ShotgunEd
hmmm computer engineering sound can somebody give me more info on it? what jobs will I have and how much could I get paid start, also how
good is the job field for computer engineering?

What jobs you can have and all that will depend on what you specialize in or what courses your school's program offers. It can range from hardware/architecture, computer communications & networks, software, etc.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: TerryMathews
CS is for people who are very good with computers and algebra.

If you think writing Linux kernel drivers is "fun" CS is for you.

the linux kernel model is a mess.

You are billy's bitch aren't you, ameesh!!!

try writing something for it, you'll see how entirely ridiculous it is.

 

[DT4K]

Be a plumber.
You can't get outsourced to India then.

CS is not just programming.
Some CS jobs.
Programmer
Systems Analyst
Software Engineer (this is me)
Database Administrator
Network Administrator/Architect

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: Tharyn
All I can recommend is that if you want to studying anything remotely dealing with Computers / Math / Engineering, come on up to the University of Waterloo, just a little further down the highway from Western.

--Mark

<---- Studying Computer Engineering @ Waterloo

Time to start the rivalry! 😛

Comp Eng is better at UofT compared to the 'Loo.
Comp Sci is MUCH better at Waterloo compared to UofT.

I'm in Comp Eng at UofT and have friends in Comp Eng & Comp Sci at Waterloo. The Comp Eng guys don't like the profs or the way the course material is taught. Plus they all say Waterloo is cheap with respect to students. But the Comp Sci guys like it there, and also Comp Sci at UofT is no-where as good as Waterloos.

Back to original poster: If you wanna do IT type work, Ryerson University in Toronto has a nice program for IT-business related stuff. Look into it.,

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Tharyn
All I can recommend is that if you want to studying anything remotely dealing with Computers / Math / Engineering, come on up to the University of Waterloo, just a little further down the highway from Western.

--Mark

<---- Studying Computer Engineering @ Waterloo

He said Trinity Western... (Christian school)

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: Tharyn
All I can recommend is that if you want to studying anything remotely dealing with Computers / Math / Engineering, come on up to the University of Waterloo, just a little further down the highway from Western.

--Mark

<---- Studying Computer Engineering @ Waterloo

Time to start the rivalry! 😛

Comp Eng is better at UofT compared to the 'Loo.
Comp Sci is MUCH better at Waterloo compared to UofT.

I'm in Comp Eng at UofT and have friends in Comp Eng & Comp Sci at Waterloo. The Comp Eng guys don't like the profs or the way the course material is taught. Plus they all say Waterloo is cheap with respect to students. But the Comp Sci guys like it there, and also Comp Sci at UofT is no-where as good as Waterloos.

Back to original poster: If you wanna do IT type work, Ryerson University in Toronto has a nice program for IT-business related stuff. Look into it.,

UBC pwnz j00 all!!!

😀

 

[EyeMWing]

I'm going to Canadian school later in life. UofT or UWaterloo, depending on which major I pick. Only disadvantage that I can see is that you get stuck as an 'international' student, which means that entry standards are a bit higher.

Edit: And High School counselors tend to go 'wtf?' when you tell them the schools you're considering. At least mine do. They cannot fathom what I mean when I say that I don't want to live every day of my life as a criminal. Nor can your classmates. "Why would you want to go there? It's so cold and nobody lives there and there's so little technology" (Heh, misconceptions abound! Canada has a far more advanced electronic infrastructure) All I bother saying is "I'll take my jacket."

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
I'm going to Canadian school later in life. UofT or UWaterloo, depending on which major I pick. Only disadvantage that I can see is that you get stuck as an 'international' student, which means that entry standards are a bit higher.

Is it a good idea to do that? Would your degree be accredited by the same organizations that accredit US schools? I wonder if you would have problems if you wanted to come back to the US and get an entry-level job.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
I'm going to Canadian school later in life. UofT or UWaterloo, depending on which major I pick. Only disadvantage that I can see is that you get stuck as an 'international' student, which means that entry standards are a bit higher.

Is it a good idea to do that? Would your degree be accredited by the same organizations that accredit US schools? I wonder if you would have problems if you wanted to come back to the US and get an entry-level job.

It's a quality of life issue. I can't deal with being treated as a terrorist and criminal at every turn, having a government that no longer recognizes it's citizen's own rights, and being surrounded by total assclowns. I also can't deal with excuses from American broadband companies. They have frickin' 75% 3mbit broadband internet in Nunavut (Eskimo province) and US 3mbit penetration is like 1%, and 1mbit is less than 10%.

And no, you wouldn't have any problems coming back to the US - most people maintain dual citizenships (The two countries ignore each other in terms of citizenship). I won't, of course.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
I'm going to Canadian school later in life. UofT or UWaterloo, depending on which major I pick. Only disadvantage that I can see is that you get stuck as an 'international' student, which means that entry standards are a bit higher.

Is it a good idea to do that? Would your degree be accredited by the same organizations that accredit US schools?

It's a quality of life issue. I can't deal with being treated as a terrorist and criminal at every turn, having a government that no longer recognizes it's citizen's own rights, and being surrounded by total assclowns. I also can't deal with excuses from American broadband companies. They have frickin' 75% 3mbit broadband internet in Nunavut (Eskimo province) and US 3mbit penetration is like 1%, and 1mbit is less than 10%.

I can understand your first statements... I can only pray that you're joking on the last one!

 

[CanOWorms]

I'm not talking about problems about coming back into the US. I'm talking about problems of getting a job in the US... I'm guessing that your degree might not be accredited here so you might have problems in the job-search if you decide to come back!

 

[ghostman]

If you've never programmed or have only done minimal coding, take an intro CS course in college to get a feel for it. Don't just jump in as a CS major without knowing what you're getting into. All CS majors have to study data structures and algorithms, which include quite a bit of math. Calculus, discrete mathematics and linear algebra are usually required or, at the very least, suggested. Computer Engineering is equally math intensive and physics will probably be a requirement. You'll probably learn more about hardware design and architecture. IT is probably the least math intense, but can be even more focused on programming. None of these tracks will teach computer maintenance or troubleshooting....that's something you'll have to pick up on your own. Let's just say, the more math there is, chances are the more money you'll make (though that's not very true nowadays, is it? they all make very little). If you're trying to get into a computer field just for the money, you're probably better off studying something else.

Unrelated side note: It really peeves me when someone equates what I study to "fixing computers".

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
I'm going to Canadian school later in life. UofT or UWaterloo, depending on which major I pick. Only disadvantage that I can see is that you get stuck as an 'international' student, which means that entry standards are a bit higher.

Is it a good idea to do that? Would your degree be accredited by the same organizations that accredit US schools?

It's a quality of life issue. I can't deal with being treated as a terrorist and criminal at every turn, having a government that no longer recognizes it's citizen's own rights, and being surrounded by total assclowns. I also can't deal with excuses from American broadband companies. They have frickin' 75% 3mbit broadband internet in Nunavut (Eskimo province) and US 3mbit penetration is like 1%, and 1mbit is less than 10%.

I can understand your first statements... I can only pray that you're joking on the last one!

The US numbers are actually very realistic. The Canadian infrastrucutre is indeed capable of handling 3mbit to a huge chunk of the populated country (And Nunavut is very, very unpopulated). If there are phone lines - there's broadband of some sort. This is because Canadian telcos space their cabling 'offices' very closely in rural/suburban areas, while in the US, you may go 10 to 20 miles from one to the other. This kind of innovation comes from years of government subsidy. Is it any wonder that piracy is the Canadian way?

 

[speg]

All I can recommend is that if you want to studying anything remotely dealing with Computers / Math / Engineering, come on up to the University of Waterloo, just a little further down the highway from Western.

Woo, go UW! I too am attending Waterloo, first year. Physics major, computer science minor ( hopefully. ) It's a good ( but hard 🙁 ) school.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I'm not talking about problems about coming back into the US. I'm talking about problems of getting a job in the US... I'm guessing that your degree might not be accredited here so you might have problems in the job-search if you decide to come back!

U of Waterloo and U of Toronto are accredited in the US. In fact many US companies hire fresh graduates from UofWaterloo and UofT. I know MS and Motorola get a lot of students from there.

In fact, UofT Engineering faculty is in the Top 10 category for research work among Universities in all of North America.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: speg

All I can recommend is that if you want to studying anything remotely dealing with Computers / Math / Engineering, come on up to the University of Waterloo, just a little further down the highway from Western.

Woo, go UW! I too am attending Waterloo, first year. Physics major, computer science minor ( hopefully. ) It's a good ( but hard 🙁 ) school.

your gonna get your ass kicked by physics!

I hope you got lube! 😛

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
I'm going to Canadian school later in life. UofT or UWaterloo, depending on which major I pick. Only disadvantage that I can see is that you get stuck as an 'international' student, which means that entry standards are a bit higher.

Is it a good idea to do that? Would your degree be accredited by the same organizations that accredit US schools?

It's a quality of life issue. I can't deal with being treated as a terrorist and criminal at every turn, having a government that no longer recognizes it's citizen's own rights, and being surrounded by total assclowns. I also can't deal with excuses from American broadband companies. They have frickin' 75% 3mbit broadband internet in Nunavut (Eskimo province) and US 3mbit penetration is like 1%, and 1mbit is less than 10%.

I can understand your first statements... I can only pray that you're joking on the last one!

The US numbers are actually very realistic. The Canadian infrastrucutre is indeed capable of handling 3mbit to a huge chunk of the populated country (And Nunavut is very, very unpopulated). If there are phone lines - there's broadband of some sort. This is because Canadian telcos space their cabling 'offices' very closely in rural/suburban areas, while in the US, you may go 10 to 20 miles from one to the other. This kind of innovation comes from years of government subsidy. Is it any wonder that piracy is the Canadian way?

Um... I wasn't talking about the numbers...

 

[Rainsford]

Here's an analogy...
CS is as much about computers as astronomy is about telescopes, Computer Engineers build the telescopes, MIS majors wipe off the lense 😉