I like Battlestar Galatica..

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shadow9d9

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Let's see. V for Vendetta was a comic book in the 80's about Britain(the author is british too) and the movie(which he had nothign to do with) simply changed the setting but kept the main parts of the story.

BSG is not from hollywood.. How much sci fi is on tv? 2-3 shows right now? Yeah, hollywood is REALLY backing sci fi right now! Ron Moore, Bradley thompson/david weddle, and David Eick run the show, and they don't do ANYTHING like hollywood... Like they did on Star Trek:Deep Space Nine, they tackle real world issues in an intelligent way without holding the hand of the viewer.

Nothing in DS9 or BSG is clear cut(like they are in other sci fi such as TNG and Stargate). This episode in particular was absolutely not clear cut. It shows multiple viewpoints of a situation in a science fiction show while keeping the characters true to themselves. They walk a tightrope and they walk it well. If you do not like it, feel free not to. However, BSG is one of the few remaining intelligent shows out there right now... Go back to reality tv if you want to rot your brain.

Oh, and Jedi, you are a laughing stock. I have not seen you type one thing in any of your posts that has an iota of intelligence... Being a huge star trek fan, PLEASE, oh PLEASE educate me as to what countries the Klingons, Romulans, Vulcans, the Dominion, the Borg, and the Cardassians stand for... Oh, of course, you probably don't know about half of those races, yet you think you are informed enough to make such conclusions... hmm.. you probably just read it somewhere and are regurgitating it.... WHAT A SURPRISE! Feel free to try though... I have a feeling I'll be waiting a loooong time...
 

datalink7

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I actually thought that, if you were to take anything in reference to the current world situation from the last BSG episode, it was an admonishment to BOTH sides.

I thought it was a great episode.
 
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Originally posted by: Rangoric
Originally posted by: MAW1082
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
terrorists = attack civilians
freedom fighters = attack governments in order to over turn them

So you would say that Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City Federal Building bomber, was a freedom fighter?

Since OBL attacked the pentagon and other government targets, he is a freedom fighter?

I think your logic is flawed . . .

A terrorist is your enemy, a freedom fighter is your friend. It's all about point of view. It has absolutely nothing to do with who is attacked by the party in question.

OBL is actually both. Al-Quada is actually Both.

However, the attacking civilians stains all his actions as Terrorist, especially since he specifically targets civilians. If he stuck to just government targets, the outrage against him would be quite a bit smaller.

Edit: Of course seeing them as Freedom Fighters requires looking at things from their perspective.

zomg...now that you clarified this and brought it to my attention, it would seem that Israel is a terrorist nation. and we supported them!!11!!111
 

Jadow

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I enjoyed the ep and didn't consider it a critique on Iraq for a couple main reasons, the biggest being, the US didn't wipe out all except 45,000 Iraqi's and isn't keeping the survivors in a giant pow camp.
 

lyssword

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I don't think BSG has anything to do with Hollywood. This episode explored the concept of revenge. The suicide bomber made a big big mistake, you can clearly see that he wasn't thinking straight and he didn't care about anything but revenge, and the XO used the opportunity for his personal revenge (because of the tortures he endured in prison).
I know when I watched the episode I was just thinking "don't do it don't do it you idiot". He wasted his life for nothing, imo.
This is a dark scifi drama show, more than anything they are trying to uncover the humans' darker side
 

CFster

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Originally posted by: hellokeith
Well, like Revenge of the Sith and V for Vengeance, Hollywood has once again raped a good storyline to inject its leftist ideals. Sad, quite sad.

Bitch isn't it.

You don't have to watch.


 

PottedMeat

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Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: Horus
I loved that episode. Wow. Lee got FAT.

Yeah, I know. But that was the point, to show that he was getting soft.

hehe

"Get your men ready and GET YOUR FAT ASS OUT OF HERE!"
 

SSP

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Uhh... I just watched the mini series in season 1 dvd boxset, and I really liked it. I hope it doesnt turn weird and stray from the story line I though it was going to be about.
 

spikespiegal

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Battlestar Galactica has really never shown either side in a 100% good or bad light... in fact, Colonel Tigh (the leader of the insurgency) is probably one of the few characters who nearly always get shown in a bad light.

So true. The writing for the show has been mostly apolitical and merely plays on extremes of one belief or another, and how human loyalties work. Miliraty rule -vs civilian leadership, etc. Note how the as the Cylons get more and more emotionally attached to humans the more conflicted they get.

As much as I feel the storyline has gotten too dark and somewhat off track, the acting is fantastic and the smaller storylines too good to miss. Still, I liked the first season the best though. '33' is still the best episode made.

Yeah, Apollo needs to stop docking his Viper at the McDonald's transport so much. I can only imagine the comment Starbuck would make if she saw him; 'looks like we'd have better luck getting a raptor in launch tube than your fat *ss'.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Ah yes, because if history has taught us anything, it's that insurgent groups are never the "good guys" and that puppet governments never collaborate with the oppressive invaders :roll: You know, unless we're talking about, just to pick a random example, occupied France during WWII.

Here's a hint for all the egocentric conservatives out there, it's not always about you. The history of invasion, insurgency and the subversion of democracy does not begin nor end with the war on terror and the invasion of Iraq. I realize conservatives can't help but think the villians of movies like V for Vendetta and Revenge of the Sith are liberal ideas of what conservatives are like (or could be like), but I'd say that's probably due to a combination of ignorance of history and a subconscious that fears it might be true.

Seriously conservatives, read up on Vichy France and the Nazi rise to power...and quit bitching about "Revenge of the Sith". If you see yourselves reflected in the Emperor's subversion of democracy using terror for his own selfish ends, that's not really OUR fault, now is it? ;)

well written.
 

Babbles

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I like Battlestar Galatica.

I also like beer.

I wonder if there is a connection.
 

dexvx

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What I find most amusing about this thread is that Battlestar Galactica has nothing to do with Hollywood. Its not even filmed in Hollywood. Seriously, at least attempt to do some resaerch.

The difference between Liberals and Neocons is that Liberals have no problem at least listening to opposing viewpoints. Neocons in general are afraid to listen to opposing view-points (or attempt to fake it via Hannity/Colmbs to make them feel better).