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archcommus

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Thanks for all the good replies.

I guess an important thing to note here is that I would never want to go through the hassle of selling my car myself to a third party. So if I bought a car, then went to buy another five years later, I would simply trade it in. Trade-ins are always significantly lower than resale value.

I would also not want to decide whether to lease or buy based on guesses of how much it'll depreciate. If you wanted to take that route you could crunch the numbers every time you want to get a car; sometimes buying might come out as cheaper, sometimes leasing might come out as cheaper, all depending on what you think the car would be worth to trade in or sell if you bought it versus what you'd pay to lease it. Well, that's all good in theory, but I wouldn't want to make my purchasing decision based on guesswork. No one ever really knows for sure what a car will sell for in five years.

So here's my standpoint. I will probably never desire a new car every two or even three years. But if I make a decent salary as an adult I will almost definitely want a new one at least every five. That would go without saying. If I have the money to spare, after five years I'll be wanting something new. Now, combine that with the fact that I will never want to sell my car independently, and instead will always trade it in. Those two things combined, perhaps leasing will always be the better alternative for me? My choices are, lease a car for three or four years, with as little down as possible, then lease another, and so on, or buy cars over five-year terms, then trade it in, buy another, etc. I think in such a situation leasing will always be cheaper.

The problem I run into is I read something like what I just typed and then I think "No, no, I must be missing something." Why do I think that? Because two-thirds or more of everyone here says buying is better. But I KNOW for a fact that all of them DO NOT keep cars until they die, and all of them DO NOT sell their cars to private parties every time they want to get another. So if that's true why are SO MANY people preferring buying?
 

spacejamz

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One thing I see going on here is that, ok, you own the $10000 car for 5 years. At the end of those 5 years, let's say the car is worth $2000. On your next $10000 car, you will be making payments on an $8000 loan.

One other thing that was not mentioned yet is that if you lease the car for 3 years, you pretty much won't have any maintenance costs outside of oil changes and tuneups since most new cars come with at least a 3 year 36K mile warranty...by the 4th/5th year of ownership, things will start needing to be replaced (i.e, brakes, timing belt/chain, cv joints, shocks, etc...)...when you lease, you pretty much turn in the car before it starts to show its age...



 

archcommus

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Perhaps leasing really would be good then if you'd get another car after you're done paying it off in five years anyway, and maybe more people here just keep cars for longer than that than I thought.

But maybe I'd be afraid of driving a car that's leased because of if something happens to it. Like if it gets a small scratch, what do you do? Take it to an independent shop and get it covered up? Take it to the dealer? Wait until the lease is over and swallow the costs?
 

redly

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: vi_edit
One problem that I have with leases is how they market/advertise them.

I *REALLY* dislike the fine print game they play. "Here, lease this for the low, low price of $219 a month"




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then look at the fine print and see "$5,000 due at signing".

D'oh!

If you are going to lease, BE CERTAIN you don't get suckered into all the hidden costs and factor them in to get your REAL monthly payment. Not the payment they show you on TV or in a paper.

You ain't kidding. Lease ads are the biggest crock out there.

I'm waiting to see an ad that says "Lease this Hummer for $1 per month................*fine print* $36,000 down."


It's not like it's that fine of print when they come out and tell you on the commercial or in the ad
 

psteng19

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Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: FoBoT
If you lease for five years and your car is totaled in an accident, you could be responsible for a giant gap between the amount the insurance company will pay and the stated residual in the lease.
That's a giant reason right there.

Gap insurance. Very inexpensive.


With that said, I would never lease.
I like owning my cars.
 

EvilYoda

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meh, I love the lease I got on my car...one that I love but would not buy at this point in my life. Otherwise, for the money I'm paying per month, I would've gotten stuck with a Mazda 3 or something.
 

SilentVixen

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I would personally never lease. You are paying about as much as buying and when it's all done and said you are no closer to actually owning anything.