I know it's popular to bash suvs, but what other vehicles deserve the same rage/bashing?

[alkemyst]

what if the SUV driver is also wearing a BT headset?

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: herm0016
i want to see a total energy balance on a prius vs other compact car... i bet that the Prius uses more energy overall to manufacture it and drive it for say, 100,000 miles than most other small cars.

Well since someone did a study on it and determined that it consumed more energy than a Hummer H2 from conception to destruction over a 100K lifespan...I'd assume any small car would blow it out of the water.

That was a paper written by a student and it turned out to be junk science. Stuff like he assumed the Hummer would last 300k miles, and that the Prius would last 100k.

Most studies are junk and done by students.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Most studies are junk and done by students.

Yeah this whole round earth theory is bullshit.

 

[GoatMonkey]

Originally posted by: rh71
Bash racing for sport... how's that for a start on JulesMaximus' "wasted resources" argument?

I'd say we should go ahead and just ban all sports. Think about all of the cars that people drive to the games causing an unnecessary traffic jam and tailgating with the engine running to keep the giant stereo powered. We don't really *NEED* sports at all.

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: herm0016
i want to see a total energy balance on a prius vs other compact car... i bet that the Prius uses more energy overall to manufacture it and drive it for say, 100,000 miles than most other small cars.

Well since someone did a study on it and determined that it consumed more energy than a Hummer H2 from conception to destruction over a 100K lifespan...I'd assume any small car would blow it out of the water.

That's assuming a Hummer would actually live for 300,000 miles. :laugh:

EDIT: Damn, someone beat me to it.

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
what if the SUV driver is also wearing a BT headset?

You see so many BT headsets now in Cali since the hands-free cell phone law was passed the other day. Please, leave the headsets in your cars to avoid looking like Bluetools.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: alkemyst
what if the SUV driver is also wearing a BT headset?

You see so many BT headsets now in Cali since the hands-free cell phone law was passed the other day. Please, leave the headsets in your cars to avoid looking like Bluetools.

you are joking about a snopes article I hope.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: Savij
I shit gasoline while i ride my bike. I make gallons per mile. I win!! <happy monkey dance>

Do you mind if I stick a pipe in your ass? And I say that in the most heterosexual way.

There is no way you're going to tap this ass.

We could arrange payments...

You could at least buy me flowers first.

I promise to respect you before...and respect you after...

That's great, but I feel pretty dirty talking like this in the garage. This kind of thing really should stay in off topic. I think I'm just going to get some rest.

Don't trust a man with "Prickly" in the frist part of his name.

 

[A5]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
My guess is that the European (MB/BMW/AUDI) HP wars will slow down and/or cease to exist as we know it.

Well Audi is talking about moving to a Turbocharged V6 instead of a V8 in the next RS4 😛

 

[Dman877]

Americans use the most energy on a per-capita basis in the world. The reason for this is a combination of daily energy-intensive activities, not the least of which is our chosen mode of transportation. However, addressing this will be quite difficult because to do so directly contradicts what many of us see as our one of our core principals, namely freedom of choice. History has proven that people themselves will rarely modify their behavior for the good of the whole without some sort of personal incentive.

Personally, I think there is enough oil still locked away all over the world for people to continue driving whatever they want to for a long time. The gas prices will curtail the options of the lower and middle classes though. That isn't a bad thing as they make up the bulk of Americans and I hate driving behind trucks and SUV's (can't see ahead unless you drop ten car-lengths back and then every tom, dick, and harry is passing you and cutting you off). Humans adapt best and quickest when it is clear they need to do so. In 50 or 100 or 200 years when the oil runs out, I have no doubt that our species will have little difficulty moving beyond oil.

 

[kalrith]

Originally posted by: Dman877
That isn't a bad thing as they make up the bulk of Americans and I hate driving behind trucks and SUV's (can't see ahead unless you drop ten car-lengths back and then every tom, dick, and harry is passing you and cutting you off).

To the OP, I think the size of SUVs contributes a lot to the hatred for them. If I'm driving behind a Mercedes AMG, I can still see perfectly fine in front of me. If I get in an accident with a gas-guzzling car, I'm not worried that its front bumper, which is being pushed by 7,000 lbs, is going to be even with my side window and thus bypass the structural safety of my car.

People make threads bashing the fuel economy of SUVs but will say nothing against cars like the Charger SRT8 or Mercedes C63 AMG (both of which get 3 mpg worse than my SUV according to fueleconomy.gov). Therefore, the way that the size of SUVs negatively impacts our daily driving is the only reason I can think of for why they get more hatred than similarly-efficient cars.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: A5

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
My guess is that the European (MB/BMW/AUDI) HP wars will slow down and/or cease to exist as we know it.

Well Audi is talking about moving to a Turbocharged V6 instead of a V8 in the next RS4 😛

supercharged 6 is confirmed for the next S4 🙂

also, i think most S/RS4 fans prefer the forced induction setup over the NA V8 (even though the 4.2 is awesome).

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: Dman877
Americans use the most energy on a per-capita basis in the world. The reason for this is a combination of daily energy-intensive activities, not the least of which is our chosen mode of transportation. However, addressing this will be quite difficult because to do so directly contradicts what many of us see as our one of our core principals, namely freedom of choice. History has proven that people themselves will rarely modify their behavior for the good of the whole without some sort of personal incentive.

Personally, I think there is enough oil still locked away all over the world for people to continue driving whatever they want to for a long time. The gas prices will curtail the options of the lower and middle classes though. That isn't a bad thing as they make up the bulk of Americans and I hate driving behind trucks and SUV's (can't see ahead unless you drop ten car-lengths back and then every tom, dick, and harry is passing you and cutting you off). Humans adapt best and quickest when it is clear they need to do so. In 50 or 100 or 200 years when the oil runs out, I have no doubt that our species will have little difficulty moving beyond oil.

I've got news for you... We don't have enough obtainable oil to keep driving as much as we do for even 50 years. Look at the price now and tell me if you think it's going to go up or down.