I just walkd in between high powered radio wave antennas...

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MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Dude... you're stupid. Radio waves don't do squat.



They can if they have enough power behind them, which they didn't in this case.

you=teh stoopid

is that so? E = h*f, which means the energy of a wave is directly dependant upon its frequency. radio waves are very LOW frequency since the wavelength is so long (c = lambda*f).

there is not enough energy in a radio wave to knock electrons out of atoms in your brain, which would cause decays and eject the high energy harmful particles, which actually would hurt you.

you = teh stoopid.
 

OVERKILL

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well, if you wake up tomorrow morning with your "mini-me" disfigured,
then you know you got zapped.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: spidey07
well depending on frequency and power radio waves can be harmful.

How so?
Care to back up your claim with facts?

Just look up the IEEE and FCC chart for safe levels.
 

MrDudeMan

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Radio waves dont go much smaller than 1cm, which gives them a much lower frequency than microwaves, visible light, xrays, etc.

here, look for yourself.

like i said before, the energy of a wave is directly proportional to the frequency, and the bigger the wavelength the smaller the frequency.


edit: i should add this. the power per unit area (usually can be calculated as a poynting vector, or W/m^2). enough of that and im sure it could adversely effect you, but it would take a lot, like long term exposure of greater than or equal to .5mW/m^2. a short burst of high intensity radio waves will do nothing to you.
 

Baked

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You have just killed all your children. You will not have any kids.
 

swtethan

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i designed these kinds of towers and i was shocked you stood 5 seconds in between some so close together, i have some news for you
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: spidey07
well depending on frequency and power radio waves can be harmful.

How so?
Care to back up your claim with facts?

Just look up the IEEE and FCC chart for safe levels.

Safe levels isn't for your health
It's for interference with other devices. That's why it's from the FCC, and not some kind of health agency.
 

Boxxcar

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
I work for an ISP, and the idiots had two LONG RANGE (6 mile) radio antennas setup about 30 feet apart in a room. They use them for long range wireless internet. They didn't tell me about it, and I walked right in between the line of transmission for about 5 seconds, before they told me "DUDE!! MOVE!!!"... in which I ran out of the line.

Apparently my boss says these things can seriously "fry your brain".... but I can't tell if they are messing with me or if these things are really dangerous. I feel fine, I don't feel like I was getting shocked or anything like that. If they hadn't told me I was in the middle of them I would have never noticed...

but yeah, apparently I had strong radio waves filtering through my head for about 5 seconds....

Comments?

Line of sight microwave radio shots routinely operate at what most people would consider extremely low power. .5, 1, or 2 watts output power may not sound like much, but you need to remember, the RF signal is focused and concentrated into a narrow beam to and from the dish antenna's.
In other words, do not walk in between the dishes unless you're sure the transmit power is turned off. If your techys are bench testing the system, then they are idiots for doing so in an area where people can come in contact with the RF signal. They should tape or rope off the area to prevent this.
 

manlymatt83

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Originally posted by: Gand1
Since it was radio waves at a low power no biggie. Doubt it would even make you sterile for a bit. Now if it was long range microwave antenne...... yeah then you little guys will be cooked!


It was long range!! Those devices support up to 30 miles!
 

Boxxcar

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Originally posted by: So
25W? You're fine. That's a fraction of the power of your average radio station. Ever driven by one of those?

A radio station transmits its power omnidirectional (in all directions) therefore they need a lot of power 100,000 or 250,000. Microwave is completely different.
 

manlymatt83

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Originally posted by: swtethan
i designed these kinds of towers and i was shocked you stood 5 seconds in between some so close together, i have some news for you


Oh yeah? Whats the news?
 

manlymatt83

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Originally posted by: Boxxcar
Originally posted by: mjuszczak
I work for an ISP, and the idiots had two LONG RANGE (6 mile) radio antennas setup about 30 feet apart in a room. They use them for long range wireless internet. They didn't tell me about it, and I walked right in between the line of transmission for about 5 seconds, before they told me "DUDE!! MOVE!!!"... in which I ran out of the line.

Apparently my boss says these things can seriously "fry your brain".... but I can't tell if they are messing with me or if these things are really dangerous. I feel fine, I don't feel like I was getting shocked or anything like that. If they hadn't told me I was in the middle of them I would have never noticed...

but yeah, apparently I had strong radio waves filtering through my head for about 5 seconds....

Comments?

Line of sight microwave radio shots routinely operate at what most people would consider extremely low power. .5, 1, or 2 watts output power may not sound like much, but you need to remember, the RF signal is focused and concentrated into a narrow beam to and from the dish antenna's.
In other words, do not walk in between the dishes unless you're sure the transmit power is turned off. If your techys are bench testing the system, then they are idiots for doing so in an area where people can come in contact with the RF signal. They should tape or rope off the area to prevent this.


EXACTLY. So I walked in between them. Am I screwed?
 

Lumathix

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Originally posted by: SpazzyChicken
Originally posted by: Mark R
OMG. You need a brain MRI stat!

Oh wait. Those things have 35 kW RF transmitters in them... :)

Exactly!! Ever had an MRI? Go sit in a 3T, they pump quite a bit of RF and the FDA thinks they are fine. :)

I had one done yesterday for my knees. Ran too much and my Ortho said he wanted an MRI for both. 45 minutes each knee. And I'm not dead, go figure :p
 

Boxxcar

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Originally posted by: Gand1
Since it was radio waves at a low power no biggie. Doubt it would even make you sterile for a bit. Now if it was long range microwave antenne...... yeah then you little guys will be cooked!


It was long range!! Those devices support up to 30 miles!


25-30 miles is rather short for M/W and would probably only use .5 watts. I've worked on LOS systems over 70 miles in length and even those only operate at 5 watts.
 

Boxxcar

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Originally posted by: Boxxcar
Originally posted by: mjuszczak
I work for an ISP, and the idiots had two LONG RANGE (6 mile) radio antennas setup about 30 feet apart in a room. They use them for long range wireless internet. They didn't tell me about it, and I walked right in between the line of transmission for about 5 seconds, before they told me "DUDE!! MOVE!!!"... in which I ran out of the line.

Apparently my boss says these things can seriously "fry your brain".... but I can't tell if they are messing with me or if these things are really dangerous. I feel fine, I don't feel like I was getting shocked or anything like that. If they hadn't told me I was in the middle of them I would have never noticed...

but yeah, apparently I had strong radio waves filtering through my head for about 5 seconds....

Comments?

Line of sight microwave radio shots routinely operate at what most people would consider extremely low power. .5, 1, or 2 watts output power may not sound like much, but you need to remember, the RF signal is focused and concentrated into a narrow beam to and from the dish antenna's.
In other words, do not walk in between the dishes unless you're sure the transmit power is turned off. If your techys are bench testing the system, then they are idiots for doing so in an area where people can come in contact with the RF signal. They should tape or rope off the area to prevent this.


EXACTLY. So I walked in between them. Am I screwed?


With the system set up as a bench mockup, it was probably only operating on extreme low power. In other words, in a bench mockup, you can actually transmit and receive without even having the high power amp running.
Are you screwed? Probably not. Just don't do it again.
 

drinkmorejava

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LOL, something for 6 miles, the power output on that is going to be pretty minimal. From working with ham radios and stuff, I can tell you that once you start getting into base stations that put out 50 to over a thousand watts (with amp), those will make you sick. For them to fry you brains and crap though, that's a joke. If they were putting out microwaves like that, I highly doubt any computer equipment in the house would work. However, at the low frequencies that HAMs operate at, you can start feeling sick and light-headed if it's pumping out a lot.