I just saw a pedestrian get hit...

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Perknose
This illuminates a HUGE difference between you and many, many people on this board, and myself. I'm glad you dialed 911, and I'm not calling you out or anything, but, personally, seeing someone just hit by a car lying broken on the "floor", as you charmingly called it, I simply couldn't have casually driven on.

I'm NOT saying that you or I could or should have done anything directly for the poor bastard before the medics arrived. I don't know what, if anything I could have done. And I well know that it most likely have been medically unwise for me or you to have touched or moved him.

I'm NOT saying I'm better than you.

I'm sure your reaction is how a huge majority of the people here would have reacted.

But, DAMN, in some fundamental way, you and I are different. I simply couldn't have casually driven away.

And I will never understand how you, or anyone else, could have, either.

That's all. 🙁

Me, I dont get involved in such things.

In your case why not take some basic first responder classes? Truly, theres no point in you stopping if you cant do anything to help. Take some first responder classes and if you were to see something like this you might truly make a difference.

Would you want somebody to stop and help you if you got hit? If you would rather lie bleeding on the road until the paramedics happen to show up that's fine. However, if you'd want somebody to help you out you're a hypocrite.

I've always felt that if you want somebody to be willing to do something for you, you better be willing to do it for a stranger. It's the same reason I stop and help people, give blood, etc. I want somebody to do the same for me when I'm in trouble.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
This dude ran across the street while I had the green light. Right as i saw him i said what is this idiot doing, he's gonna get hit and sure enough he did. This is a three lane street. I was in the left lane and slowed down and the car in the middle lane slowed down because we saw him but then all of a sudden he started running and the car in the far right lane did not stop in time and hit him. He literally went flying in the air. For those that have played Grand Theft Auto, it was exactly like that. As I passed through he was just still on the floor. I was in shock but i called 911. I dropped off my friend and i had to drive by that same intersection to get home and the paramedics and the police had arrived already. This was no more than 5 minutes.

Weird thing is that earlier in the night someone else had ran into the middle of the street also on my green light and i almost hit him.

What a crazy night...

You're an asshole.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: zixxer
You're an asshole.

If you are going to call someone an asshole, at least expand upon the thought.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Perknose
And I well know that it most likely have been medically unwise for me or you to have touched or moved him.

I could have sworn I've heard stories where people who were trying to help ended up getting sued by the family after the victim died.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Perknose
And I well know that it most likely have been medically unwise for me or you to have touched or moved him.

I could have sworn I've heard stories where people who were trying to help ended up getting sued by the family after the victim died.

But the family did not win. There is a law that protects samaritans who attempt to help.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: Perknose
This illuminates a HUGE difference between you and many, many people on this board, and myself. I'm glad you dialed 911, and I'm not calling you out or anything, but, personally, seeing someone just hit by a car lying broken on the "floor", as you charmingly called it, I simply couldn't have casually driven on.

I'm NOT saying that you or I could or should have done anything directly for the poor bastard before the medics arrived. I don't know what, if anything I could have done. And I well know that it most likely have been medically unwise for me or you to have touched or moved him.

I'm NOT saying I'm better than you.

I'm sure your reaction is how a huge majority of the people here would have reacted.

But, DAMN, in some fundamental way, you and I are different. I simply couldn't have casually driven away.

And I will never understand how you, or anyone else, could have, either.

That's all. 🙁

You're post is painful to read. You keep repeating the same nonsensical point over and over. Then you repeat it again. It's like the ramblings of a drunk man.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
asdf

Kids these days. they didn't grow up on the early games.

those that have played Grand Theft Auto, it was exactly like that.

haha

I also wouldn't have called 911 but kept on going, that is strange. However, bystander syndrome teaches that some wouldn't even call 911.

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: Perknose
This illuminates a HUGE difference between you and many, many people on this board, and myself. I'm glad you dialed 911, and I'm not calling you out or anything, but, personally, seeing someone just hit by a car lying broken on the "floor", as you charmingly called it, I simply couldn't have casually driven on.

I'm NOT saying that you or I could or should have done anything directly for the poor bastard before the medics arrived. I don't know what, if anything I could have done. And I well know that it most likely have been medically unwise for me or you to have touched or moved him.

I'm NOT saying I'm better than you.

I'm sure your reaction is how a huge majority of the people here would have reacted.

But, DAMN, in some fundamental way, you and I are different. I simply couldn't have casually driven away.

And I will never understand how you, or anyone else, could have, either.

That's all. 🙁

My wife and I stop too. A gfew years long ago we were in some really bad conditions on Snoqualmie pass, and we watched this woman get hit right in front of us by a sliding car. we had a cheap blanket in the car for emergiencies, and wrapped her up in that and left her in the care of the state patrol.
Another time I witnessed an older fellow leave the road and strike a huge boulder, and came to his aid.
I had to break into his car with that brute force you read about(I was sore for days after!)
and clear his airway. He had smashed into the steering wheel and windshield despite wearing a seatbelt, and he was choking on his smashed dentures.
I could not imagine doing any less for anyone.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: Perknose
This illuminates a HUGE difference between you and many, many people on this board, and myself. I'm glad you dialed 911, and I'm not calling you out or anything, but, personally, seeing someone just hit by a car lying broken on the "floor", as you charmingly called it, I simply couldn't have casually driven on.

I'm NOT saying that you or I could or should have done anything directly for the poor bastard before the medics arrived. I don't know what, if anything I could have done. And I well know that it most likely have been medically unwise for me or you to have touched or moved him.

I'm NOT saying I'm better than you.

I'm sure your reaction is how a huge majority of the people here would have reacted.

But, DAMN, in some fundamental way, you and I are different. I simply couldn't have casually driven away.

And I will never understand how you, or anyone else, could have, either.

That's all. 🙁

I am the same way, I did the same thing when a stupid lady rolled over her car into a ditch on the interstate, all because there was a spider on her dashboard. We called 911 asap and tried to keep her calm as she was hanging upside down in her car in a ditch.

I realize most of the time my thumb will be up my ass, but its just the way i would do it.

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: Taejin

Originally posted by: Perknose
This illuminates a HUGE difference between you and many, many people on this board, and myself. I'm glad you dialed 911, and I'm not calling you out or anything, but, personally, seeing someone just hit by a car lying broken on the "floor", as you charmingly called it, I simply couldn't have casually driven on.

I'm NOT saying that you or I could or should have done anything directly for the poor bastard before the medics arrived. I don't know what, if anything I could have done. And I well know that it most likely have been medically unwise for me or you to have touched or moved him.

I'm NOT saying I'm better than you.

I'm sure your reaction is how a huge majority of the people here would have reacted.

But, DAMN, in some fundamental way, you and I are different. I simply couldn't have casually driven away.

And I will never understand how you, or anyone else, could have, either.

That's all. 🙁

I would have called 911 and left. Unless you're a trained nurse/paramedic etc, there's nothing you can really do for someone like that. I suppose you could check to see they aren't choking to death on their own tongue (although sticking your fingers in when they could chomp down is scary) but other than that... you may end up doing more harm than good.

Actually basic first aid can say someones life (stopping bleeding, cpr, help breathing, steps to prevent shock, comfort) ect....

Basic first aid can DEFINATELY save lives. But as it was said before unless you are TRAINED you are not covered by the good samaritan laws and therefore are putting yourself at legal risk. So unless you are trained in CPR/First Aid there is nothing you can do to help the person other than stand around until the police gather statements from everyone.

You are legally required to stay (hence the whole "leaving the scene of an accident" charge that can be brought against you) but I highly doubt that you will say anything different than the 15 other people that were still there on foot when the paramedics arrived.

Do you know what a good samaritan law is? You don't have to be trained. You just have to act in good faith.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: Perknose
This illuminates a HUGE difference between you and many, many people on this board, and myself. I'm glad you dialed 911, and I'm not calling you out or anything, but, personally, seeing someone just hit by a car lying broken on the "floor", as you charmingly called it, I simply couldn't have casually driven on.

I'm NOT saying that you or I could or should have done anything directly for the poor bastard before the medics arrived. I don't know what, if anything I could have done. And I well know that it most likely have been medically unwise for me or you to have touched or moved him.

I'm NOT saying I'm better than you.

I'm sure your reaction is how a huge majority of the people here would have reacted.

But, DAMN, in some fundamental way, you and I are different. I simply couldn't have casually driven away.

And I will never understand how you, or anyone else, could have, either.

That's all. 🙁

You're post is painful to read. You keep repeating the same nonsensical point over and over. Then you repeat it again. It's like the ramblings of a drunk man.

Your reply is even more painful to read, not that I believe you have the emotional maturity to understand why. 🙁

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Perknose
This illuminates a HUGE difference between you and many, many people on this board, and myself. I'm glad you dialed 911, and I'm not calling you out or anything, but, personally, seeing someone just hit by a car lying broken on the "floor", as you charmingly called it, I simply couldn't have casually driven on.

I'm NOT saying that you or I could or should have done anything directly for the poor bastard before the medics arrived. I don't know what, if anything I could have done. And I well know that it most likely have been medically unwise for me or you to have touched or moved him.

I'm NOT saying I'm better than you.

I'm sure your reaction is how a huge majority of the people here would have reacted.

But, DAMN, in some fundamental way, you and I are different. I simply couldn't have casually driven away.

And I will never understand how you, or anyone else, could have, either.

That's all. 🙁

Me, I dont get involved in such things.

In your case why not take some basic first responder classes? Truly, theres no point in you stopping if you cant do anything to help. Take some first responder classes and if you were to see something like this you might truly make a difference.

I have taken first responder classes. My post was not principally about that. It was more about someone's, anyone's ability to casually drive away from a scene of human suffering, which I simply cannot relate to (again, not trying to slam the OP.)

 

[gorcorps]

Well I would have called 911 as well, but I also probably wouldn't have stopped. If I didn't catch a license plate or anything my witness report won't be much good. Also, this pedestrian sounds like the ones around here who just run out in front of cars without much warning. If somebody is going to have that much reckless disregard for their own well being then they aren't getting anything more than a 911 call, if that.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
You are a witness to an accident if there was a criminal or civil suit against the driver...

You just mentioned the #1 reason why people DON'T stop...

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Perknose
And I well know that it most likely have been medically unwise for me or you to have touched or moved him.

I could have sworn I've heard stories where people who were trying to help ended up getting sued by the family after the victim died.

But the family did not win. There is a law that protects samaritans who attempt to help.

Actually, that may or may NOT be true. Every state has its own version of the Good Sam law, and a responder may or may NOT have equal protection in each of them. The underlying basics of each however, is that a person who attempts to help, may not do anything that exceeds his or her level of training. Doing so puts you in serious risk of lawsuit.

I've maintained my Red Cross First Aid and CPR training for over 30 years. It was the law in Washington once upon a time, that any foreman had to have their version of Industrial First Aid training, and my union apprenticeship also required (and provided) first aid and CPR. Later, I also maintained Red Cross advanced first aid and emergency rescue training. Since I worked heavy construction, it always came in handy, as it's a dangerous line of work, and someone is always getting hurt, some seriously, others not so severely, yet others fatally.

As for auto accidents and the like, with the high level of communicable diseases that are spread by blood, I've gotten to the point where I won't touch anyone I don't know well. AIDS, Hepatitis B & C are basically forever...no cures for any of them, and I'm not good samaritan enough to put myself in that much risk anymore.

 

[McCarthy]

Beyond first aid concerns at least stop and help alert traffic so no further injuries occur. Worst case, it becomes a hit and run so now the man is lying in the street without any protection. Best case the driver involved stops in an appropriate place and puts on flashers, but that still leaves him very exposed to people not paying attention and drivers turning into that lane at the intersection. Pull off somewhere safe and wave to slow and alert traffic before they get to the intersection. You can leave when the the first thing with flashing lights shows up and not become involved if you like.

What's safe for you to do depends on the situation. Keep yourself safe first, then find how you can help.

 

[OdiN]

I think I would stay.

That way I could be a witness for the guy that hit him. Gotta at least try to get that dumbass that ran out into traffic to pay for the damage to that guys car.

If the guy truly did just run out into oncoming traffic, then I can't really find any sympathy for him.

 

[Midlander]

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

You are legally required to stay (hence the whole "leaving the scene of an accident" charge that can be brought against you) but I highly doubt that you will say anything different than the 15 other people that were still there on foot when the paramedics arrived.

I don't think leaving the scene of an accident applies to all bystanders. It's mainly for those involved.

Otherwise freeways would be plugged for every fender-bender.

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Taejin

Originally posted by: Perknose
This illuminates a HUGE difference between you and many, many people on this board, and myself. I'm glad you dialed 911, and I'm not calling you out or anything, but, personally, seeing someone just hit by a car lying broken on the "floor", as you charmingly called it, I simply couldn't have casually driven on.

I'm NOT saying that you or I could or should have done anything directly for the poor bastard before the medics arrived. I don't know what, if anything I could have done. And I well know that it most likely have been medically unwise for me or you to have touched or moved him.

I'm NOT saying I'm better than you.

I'm sure your reaction is how a huge majority of the people here would have reacted.

But, DAMN, in some fundamental way, you and I are different. I simply couldn't have casually driven away.

And I will never understand how you, or anyone else, could have, either.

That's all. 🙁

I would have called 911 and left. Unless you're a trained nurse/paramedic etc, there's nothing you can really do for someone like that. I suppose you could check to see they aren't choking to death on their own tongue (although sticking your fingers in when they could chomp down is scary) but other than that... you may end up doing more harm than good.

WRONG...
Witness statements must be taken. If you saw it you are legally obligated to provide a witness statement.

This is true. I had forgotten about this.

 

[skywhr]

did he kick his shoes off in a fit of glee?
did he vomit part of his pelvis?

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Well when it happened it was kind of a huge shock because I've never seen anything happen like that. When i called 911, they asked for my name and my number and i gave it to them in case they needed it. I told them what i saw and what car was involved. I was debating about turning around and helping but in my mind i believe that i didnt know what the hell i was doing. This might sound kind of mean, but i was more worried about the driver than the person who got hit. It was in no way the driver's fault since the dude ran out of no where, and in his position at the time, i could understand that he couldnt see him because my car and the middle lane would be blocking his view of the pedestrian. I understand why you guys would rag on me about just driving away, but i was just in shock that i even saw that. I saw the complete hit from start to end...

 

[QTPie]

It's sad because a person got hit. It's bad to hit someone when you're driving on green light. Just imagine that you were the driver. It happened to me many times and I was so scared.
One time I saw an @$$ standing on the corner waiting at the green light. When I was approaching, his light turned red, the @$$ now started crossing the street he was laughing when 2 other cars on the left lanes had to break suddenly and wait for him to pass.

If you want to help the victim and you're not trained, be sure that you try not to move or touch the person as you might get sued later on. It already happened to someone I know.

 

[McCarthy]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
I understand why you guys would rag on me about just driving away, but i was just in shock that i even saw that. I saw the complete hit from start to end...

You called to get help and didn't cause more trouble. Those are both to your credit. With your position in the middle lane you might not have had much of an opportunity to stop ahead and go back to assist without causing more disruption.

I didn't mean to rag on you and I doubt anyone else faults you specifically - it's more of a general observation on people failing to help others.