I just realized something about Trent Lott...

[Mill]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Craig234
Uh, Byrd's not an idiot. Byrd was a member of the KKK several decades ago in a place as a young man in a different culture - there needs to be room for people to change and get past mistakes, and Byrd's earned that with decades of service and good votes with a very different, positive view of minorities.

The fact that he's one of the most eloquent and informed Senators would not outweigh if he were still racist, but that's not the case.

i kinda gotta agree with him on this one...

but, yeah, mill, it's a shame lott's still around... but he's from mississippi... it's not like they'd ever vote for a woman, minority, or non-christian for anything.

Why do you say this? It is not like all people think this way, but I'm sure a lot probably do. Mississippi and other southern states have a lot of work to do, but so does rest of America. Also, Lott has been staying under the radar for a while now - or it appears that way.

Mississippi has a large African-American population and if they are energized to vote, they can make a big impact. But the problem is that the black populations in America are being ignored and black leaders are getting ineffective and they have been ineffective. Maybe it is designed to be this way; to keep people down. I guess making negative remarks like this will play right into the hands of people who are looking for excuses for keeping themselves and others down.

A tax package to reform taxes for lower income people here in Alabama was defeated due to 100% false ads that were placed on Black Radio Stations. Basically, the ads played to their fears and told them if they voted for the bill it would raise their taxes and end their insurance. Complete and total lies and it worked. I think getting them to vote is half the battle. Why else would various campaigns constantly be accused of calling minorities and telling them that their voting place/time changed?

And, I wouldn't shocked if some intimidation still went on. Not a lot, but enough to be seen at the surface.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

R

FFS it's still on the front page.

Does "I just realized something" = "I just saw on Daily Koz"? :roll:

 

[nageov3t]

who cares if he's a racist if it doesn't impact his job or the way he treats people?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: loki8481
who cares if he's a racist if it doesn't impact his job or the way he treats people?

Because bigots tend to let their beliefs affect their job and how they treat people. We aren't the thought police. It all hinges on behavior.

 

[shaunnol]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: loki8481
who cares if he's a racist if it doesn't impact his job or the way he treats people?

Because bigots tend to let their beliefs affect their job and how they treat people. We aren't the thought police. It all hinges on behavior.

....thought infulences behavior.

 

[DealMonkey]

What a great choice for the Republicans - a known racist whose most recent comments (in a long history of racist remarks) got him kicked down. What does the GOP do for an encore? Bring Foley back and put him in charge of the page program?

 

[zephyrprime]

Originally posted by: loki8481
who cares if he's a racist if it doesn't impact his job or the way he treats people?

Yeah, racism doesn't affect the way a person treats people

The only way it could not affect the way he treats people is if he were constantly not acting on his belief which means he lacks the courage of his convictions or if he was constantly putting on an act to get along which would mean he was a fraud. So pick your poison: racist, moral coward, or fraud.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
What a great choice for the Republicans - a known racist whose most recent comments (in a long history of racist remarks) got him kicked down. What does the GOP do for an encore? Bring Foley back and put him in charge of the page program?

heh... republicans have a longstanding history of staying courses, regardless of whether or not it's right.

 

[slash196]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Uh, Byrd's not an idiot. Byrd was a member of the KKK several decades ago in a place as a young man in a different culture - there needs to be room for people to change and get past mistakes, and Byrd's earned that with decades of service and good votes with a very different, positive view of minorities.

The fact that he's one of the most eloquent and informed Senators would not outweigh if he were still racist, but that's not the case.

Craig, I haven't disagreed with you much, but I'm going to disagree with you here. The KKK is one of the most shameful institutions in American history, and the most violent domestic terror organization. There should be no room in our society for racists, intimidators, and terrorists, no matter how reformed they might claim to be. Its the Nuremberg defense, and it doesn't fly with me.

 

[techs]

Boehner with the Whip?

 

[Aisengard]

Originally posted by: slash196

Originally posted by: Craig234
Uh, Byrd's not an idiot. Byrd was a member of the KKK several decades ago in a place as a young man in a different culture - there needs to be room for people to change and get past mistakes, and Byrd's earned that with decades of service and good votes with a very different, positive view of minorities.

The fact that he's one of the most eloquent and informed Senators would not outweigh if he were still racist, but that's not the case.

Craig, I haven't disagreed with you much, but I'm going to disagree with you here. The KKK is one of the most shameful institutions in American history, and the most violent domestic terror organization. There should be no room in our society for racists, intimidators, and terrorists, no matter how reformed they might claim to be. Its the Nuremberg defense, and it doesn't fly with me.

I wonder what your feeling is on the Pope, then, as a former member of the Hitler Youth. Or Strom Thurmond as he was a former member of the segregationist party? Remember that the outrage of Lott's statement was not that Thurmond was a racist today, he was a racist then and Lott said the world would have been a better place if Thurmond were President then.

 

[Uhtrinity]

I was pleasantly surprised when John Stewart opened the show with this joke last night. Wonder what username he uses in ATPN .... mmmmmmm.