I just made a rich man poor, a poor man rich, and caused a bunch of other random things to occur........

[manlymatt83]

So we were in Atlantic City two weeks ago, and right before we left, I played $15 on Roulette. After that, I pretty much walked away, but I was thinking about the outcomes of that move in the shower today....


Theoretically, I completely altered the path of that roulette table forever by making the dealer wait that extra 3 seconds to spin the wheel.

That means that the numbers that were supposed to come out of that roulette table (and others in the casino, because people will come and leave and go to other tables and this chain of events will occur) will be different forever, making some poor people rich, and rich people poor (mostly the latter).

So.....

Did I just make someone really rich ten, fifteen, twenty years from now?

 

[TheoPetro]

.....no you did make me dumber after reading this though.

 

[Slew Foot]

You made the owner of the casino $15 richer.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Theoretically, I completely altered the path of that roulette table forever by making the dealer wait that extra 3 seconds to spin the wheel.

You presume that all things are predetermined. Which means you have no free will. Which means that you did not, in fact, affect anything.

//paradox

 

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Theoretically, I completely altered the path of that roulette table forever by making the dealer wait that extra 3 seconds to spin the wheel.

You presume that all things are predetermined. Which means you have no free will. Which means that you did not, in fact, affect anything.

//paradox

No. I'm saying that nothing is pre-determined, and that everything happens as an effect of something else happening...

 

[TheoPetro]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Theoretically, I completely altered the path of that roulette table forever by making the dealer wait that extra 3 seconds to spin the wheel.

You presume that all things are predetermined. Which means you have no free will. Which means that you did not, in fact, affect anything.

//paradox

couldnt have said it better myself

 

[imported_LoKe]

Doesn't matter; the house always wins. Always.

 

[her209]

No, the House always wins!

 

[waggy]

hmm only thing i get from this is the OP trying to be intellectual and failing.

 

[myjaja]

No!

Now give me 10 bucks! So you can make me richer.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: mjuszczak

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Theoretically, I completely altered the path of that roulette table forever by making the dealer wait that extra 3 seconds to spin the wheel.

You presume that all things are predetermined. Which means you have no free will. Which means that you did not, in fact, affect anything.

//paradox

No. I'm saying that nothing is pre-determined, and that everything happens as an effect of something else happening...

But by that reasoning, your act of betting was therefore an effect of something else happening prior, therefore *you* are not really altering anything, since your betting was the effect of another cause. We can follow that back to the first cause of any and everything.

 

[SViper]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: mjuszczak

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Theoretically, I completely altered the path of that roulette table forever by making the dealer wait that extra 3 seconds to spin the wheel.

You presume that all things are predetermined. Which means you have no free will. Which means that you did not, in fact, affect anything.

//paradox

No. I'm saying that nothing is pre-determined, and that everything happens as an effect of something else happening...

But by that reasoning, your act of betting was therefore an effect of something else happening prior, therefore *you* are not really altering anything, since your betting was the effect of another cause. We can follow that back to the first cause of any and everything.

Head esplodes...

 

[Yossarian]

You have a poor understanding of probability.

 

[RallyMaster]

k!

 

[Descartes]

You changed nothing. One result has no correlation to another, and while ultimately a probability will be realized over a great enough sample, one single instance has no meaning beyond that instance.

It's a common problem that innumerates have. People that play stocks tend to have the same misconceptions; they think that if they keep losing then the next one "has to win", or that a stream of wins means they're "hot and will continue to win." In reality each and every result is isolated, and has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the next. The odds will remain the same.

 

[ni4ni]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
You made the owner of the casino $15 richer.

FTW!

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: her209
No, the House always wins!

Please tell me that you at least bet on black. ALWAYS BET ON BLACK!

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Did you just watch The Butterfly Effect or something?

 

[VTHodge]

What a disappointment when you click on a thread hoping for an interesting story and get a pile of crap instead.

 

[Compton]

Originally posted by: VTHodge
What a disappointment when you click on a thread hoping for an interesting story and get a pile of crap instead.

QFT

 

[T3C]

How about we both go out back, I kick you in the nuts and we call it even.

 

[EGGO]

It's a good thing I didn't get such high hopes when I saw who was the author of the thread.

 

[ultimatebob]

Dude, each spin of the Roulette wheel is completely random. You didn't effect anything other than giving the casino an extra $15.

Some people don't seem to get that, and do things like bet on black because red has came up the past 5 times. Sorry dude, but (assuming that the wheel is working right) it's still the same ~45% chance of coming up black as it was before.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Descartes
You changed nothing. One result has no correlation to another, and while ultimately a probability will be realized over a great enough sample, one single instance has no meaning beyond that instance.

It's a common problem that innumerates have. People that play stocks tend to have the same misconceptions; they think that if they keep losing then the next one "has to win", or that a stream of wins means they're "hot and will continue to win." In reality each and every result is isolated, and has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the next. The odds will remain the same.

Yup.
Gambler's fallacy.

 

[dotcom173]

well, think of it this way:

what if what you did, that took an extra 3 seconds, pissed someone off, or made someone happy, so they sped up their lives by 3 seconds, buy running or stomping to their next destination? or better yet, what if that 3 seconds u took up saved a life or killed someone by being hit by a drunk driver who was just happened to be crossing an intersection 3 seconds after/before that person would have normally been there. (not sure if that last sentence came out right, but u get it....)


EDIT: P.S. im a profound mofvucker