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UglyDuckling

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My system right now.

AMD Phenom II x4 B55 4.0ghz
4GB Geil Black Dragon 1600mhz DDR3
MSI 790FX-GD70
1GB HD7770
Corsair TX650W

My system in the coming few days...

Core i7 6700k
16GB Kingston Hyper X Fury Black 2133 DDR4
MSI Z170A Gaming M7
8GB MSI Gaming R9 390

Hopefully BF4 will now be playable :O
 
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raghu78

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This is going to be a jump which will blow you away. btw what were you doing with the HD 7770. Its such a weak GPU. R9 390 will be 4x faster. Not to forget with 4 times the VRAM. enjoy :biggrin:
 
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UglyDuckling said:
Stupid cost for literally zero gaming difference? at least Z170 brings benefits over Z97.
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Faster DDR4 on Skylake nets a 10-30%+ performance benefit, in many applications including gaming, productivity, pretty much everything.

I'd argue that Skylake is effectively crippled with such shitty RAM. A 4790k would have been a better option vs Skylake with 2133Mhz DDR4.

If you invested a couple more dollars into a decent 3000Mhz kit, it will last you for many, many years and quite a few system upgrades.
 
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Dave2150 said:
Faster DDR4 on Skylake nets a 10-30%+ performance benefit, in many applications including gaming, productivity, pretty much everything.

I'd argue that Skylake is effectively crippled with such shitty RAM. A 4790k would have been a better option vs Skylake with 2133Mhz DDR4.

If you invested a couple more dollars into a decent 3000Mhz kit, it will last you for many, many years and quite a few system upgrades.
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After spending dozens of hours benchmarking ten different memory speeds on the Intel Z170 + Skylake platform we must admit that we are too shocked by the findings. Our benchmarks show that the memory bandwidth increased, but there wasn’t a tangible improvement in system performance with real applicationsimage: http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png
. We ran other applications and game titles when we tested this memory kit and you mostly ended up with flat performance charts like you saw in Handbrake or any of the game titles that we tested today. We saw some nice performance gains from DDR4-2133 to DDR4-2666, but strangely the pricing for the G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB 2133 and 2666 dual channel kits are identical. That is where you’ll see the biggest performance gain in the real world benchmarks and you can get that benefit for free right now. There is only a $15 difference between 2133MHz and 3200MHz memory, so skip a meal out and opt for higher clocked kit if you are on a tight budget! The DDR4-3466 and DDR4-3600 kits are nice for overclockers trying to get high memory bandwidth scores, but there it’s hard to justify spending $230 or $400 on a kit of memory that does little on real world applications. The one thing we didn’t have time to test or maybe we just lacked the desire after spending three days benchmarking this is to test all these memory clock speeds over again on the integrated graphics (Intel HD Graphics 530) to see what that does for performance. We know from past experience that integrated graphics benefits greatly from higher clocked speeds, but at the same time not too many ‘gamers’ are going to spend $350 on a Core i7-6700K, $400 on the G.Skill RipJaws V 8GB 3600MHz DDR4 memory kit and $319.99 on the ASUS Z170-Deluxe to only run integrated graphics. If you’re going to drop $1,070 on your CPU/Memory/Motherboard the chances are you’ll have a discrete graphics card in your system.
Read more at http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-me...memory-kit-speed_170340/6#3Lv6rkP2DDpYLIX3.99
 
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dark zero

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UglyDuckling said:
My system right now.

AMD Phenom II x4 B55 4.0ghz
4GB Geil Black Dragon 1600mhz DDR3
MSI 790FX-GD70
1GB HD7770
Corsair TX650W

My system in the coming few days...

Core i7 6700k
16GB Kingston Hyper X Fury Black 2133 DDR4
MSI Z170A Gaming M7
8GB MSI Gaming R9 390

Hopefully BF4 will now be playable :O
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Lets see...
CPU wise is right the Jump.
However the RAM seems to be a BIG stepback on your rig.
The MoBo is Ok
And that videocard... It's a waste! You better had gone to a GTX 980
 
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Dave2150 said:
Faster DDR4 on Skylake nets a 10-30%+ performance benefit, in many applications including gaming, productivity, pretty much everything.

I'd argue that Skylake is effectively crippled with such shitty RAM. A 4790k would have been a better option vs Skylake with 2133Mhz DDR4.

If you invested a couple more dollars into a decent 3000Mhz kit, it will last you for many, many years and quite a few system upgrades.
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I haven't followed skylake is this remotely true? Time and time again has shown faster memory is better at over clocking which gains questionable results but insignificant gains on real world usage

Edit** Battlefield games always seem to run better on NVIDIA cards**
 
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jaydee

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You could get 8GB sticks of Mushkin DDR4-2800 for $60 each on newegg. Not sure how much those DDR4-2133 sticks are, but they can't be that much less.
 
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Yep gotta get that RAM

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It makes such a massive difference.

Ok so my sarcasm is about as flat as that line.
 
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As we have shown in the gaming benchmarks, Skylake needs to be able to have the availability of more memory bandwidth, especially as we clock the processor up. My thought is if you are going to be moving to a Skylake platform for gaming, you should be shooting for no less than 2666MHz RAM. Kits of 16GB Corsair (4x4GB) Vengeance LPX start at around $145. If you are not using your Skylake for gaming, RAM speeds beyond the stock speeds of 2133MHz truly do not seem to be incredibly important.

From http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/08/05/intel_skylake_core_i76700k_ipc_overclocking_review/8

Having looked at the review, there are not a lot of gains to be had from higher memory, but there are some. I suppose it depends on what you are doing with the PC. For me the extra £30 doesn't seem like much, so the small improvements will be worth it.
 
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"hopefully" is an overstatement with that i7 6700K.

And at least get some DDR4 2600 or 3200, there IS a difference, as noticed in that post above.
 
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TeknoBug said:
"hopefully" is an overstatement with that i7 6700K.

And at least get some DDR4 2600 or 3200, there IS a difference, as noticed in that post above.
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I see no difference in that post above, i doubt i will be at 480p on a frgging R9 390...
 
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steve wilson said:
The problem with that is...no one plays at those resolutions. When playing at 1080p are the gains the same?
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If your GPU is fast enough yes. Else we can all test on some S3 Virge card and conclude we never needed to go past a Pentium 100.
 
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ShintaiDK said:
If your GPU is fast enough yes. Else we can all test on some S3 Virge card and conclude we never needed to go past a Pentium 100.
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Has anyone done any benchmarks for RAM at 1080p? I can understand them taking it to an extreme to prove a point, but it would be nice to see the benefits in a normal usage scenario.
 
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