I just got screwed!

[FDF12389]

So the recruiting firm I'm contracted with calls me and asks for a referral, they need someone soon. I asked them to send the pertinent info to me via email, they do. After reading the job description, I knew one of my buddies would be perfect for it, so I sent him the information even though he was currently employed.

First red flag was when the agency called me back and said, thanks, a friend of yours applied and it looks promising, then he says if it works out I'll get a 1,000 dollar bonus. Red flag, usually they low ball the shit out of everyone, I know people who have gotten 25 and 50 dollar gift cards because they didn't know any better. A few days later the recruiter calls me and says its only 500, and you'll have wait twelve weeks to make sure he works out, I was reluctant, because they have always paid me much sooner than that. But there wasn't much I could do so I let it go.

Fast forward ten weeks and the company they placed my buddy at lets him go early, then the agency called him and said the client no longer has funding for the position.

It took a few phone calls but I was able to find out the recruiting company knew this was a 10 week position the whole time, and withheld that information. I'm so pissed right now I'm seeing red. They used me to use a friend of mine, and that's not ok with me.



How would the upstanding folks of ATOT handle this situation?

 

[SunnyD]

Um... that's how contract positions work dude. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Typical recruiter tactics.. Sucks but there's not much you can do about it.

 

[highland145]

Don't use them or make them pay you for the last guy before you give up the name/contact info on your next guy.

 

[FDF12389]

Um... that's how contract positions work dude. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

No, I'm well aware of how contracts work, the problem here is they knew it was only a 10 week contract, and they lied to get a warm body in the door before other companies could. Had my friend known it was only a ten week position, he would not have taken it.

And yes he should have addressed that in the interview with the client, but its still shady.

 

[nublikescake]

No, I'm well aware of how contracts work, the problem here is they knew it was only a 10 week contract, and they lied to get a warm body in the door before other companies could. Had my friend known it was only a ten week position, he would not have taken it.

And yes he should have addressed that in the interview with the client, but its still shady.

So are you saying that you got your friend to quit his permanent job for a 10-week stint just so you could make some cash?

 

[FDF12389]

So are you saying that you got your friend to quit his permanent job for a 10-week stint just so you could make some cash?

No, it was a good job for him, and I knew he would like the work more than his current position. Plus I never concealed the fact I make a referral bonus if he's hired. We even made plans to go out with that money.

 

[Phokus]

So are you saying that you got your friend to quit his permanent job for a 10-week stint just so you could make some cash?

I'm wondering if his friend found out it was only temporary during the interview... and he still took it anyway?

 

[Blieb]

Is the recruiter trying to place him now?

The referral fee part was sneaky. They should give you something, you referred a candidate and they fulfilled their obligation with that referral. Must have been a used car salesman turned IT recruiter who pulled this one.

The fact that they screwed you .... you never helping them and not having good things to say about them must have been worth it to them.

 

[FDF12389]

Don't use them or make them pay you for the last guy before you give up the name/contact info on your next guy.

I'm sending them an email today, letting them know that I am aware of what happened, and asking that they send my 1000 dollar bonus to my friend, and that I will no longer supply with with contacts until they have.

The only thing that sucks is I make some decent change on the side with referrals, but I cannot in good faith refer someone to a company I know to be dishonest. They lie all the time, and so I tell most people I refer to get everything in writing, but this isn't a simple lie. They used me to make some money, and they didn't care that the end result would be a friend of mine unemployed.

 

[FDF12389]

I'm wondering if his friend found out it was only temporary during the interview... and he still took it anyway?

He was unaware that it was a ten week position, the contract he signed says 6 months, and emails and paper work all reference the position as contract to hire, but it never was.

He should have been more diligent when interviewing, but at the same time the recruiter should have just been honest.

 

[FDF12389]

Is the recruiter trying to place him now?

No, not diligently anyways.

The fact that they screwed you .... you never helping them and not having good things to say about them must have been worth it to them.

I don't think they know that I know. I called someone from they client company and was able to confirm the recruiter was well aware that it was a ten week contract. Then the recruiter went out of his way to make it appear as a 6 month contract to hire.

 

[Beev]

Shit like this pisses me off, too. Typical human greed. We're such a sad race.

 

[Phokus]

He was unaware that it was a ten week position, the contract he signed says 6 months, and emails and paper work all reference the position as contract to hire, but it never was.

He should have been more diligent when interviewing, but at the same time the recruiter should have just been honest.

Aren't you a cop? This is probably one of the few times some abuse of force would be justified and i'd cheer you on :hmm:

 

[JTsyo]

How do you take a job without checking everything out? He should have spoken with the actual company he was working for.

 

[melchoir]

Unless he made a ton of money I'm failing to see how a ten week stint could be considered "a good job for him"

 

[FelixDeCat]

Just ax for McDonalds Happy Meal gift card and call it even. Otherwise its water under the bridge.

 

[rudder]

How do you take a job without checking everything out? He should have spoken with the actual company he was working for.

A recruiter is not going to give out that information. What would then stop the applicant from going straight to the hiring company and cut out the overhead of a recruiter?

The recruiter used the OP.

 

[BoomerD]

Find a new recruiter to work with instead of these asshats.

Don't tell them in advance that you're through with them...just find someone else...then, when they call you again, simply decline. No explanations, no "Fuck you...you fucked me and my friend," simply turn down any future offers.

 

[FDF12389]

Unless he made a ton of money I'm failing to see how a ten week stint could be considered "a good job for him"

Neither of us were made aware that it was a ten week stint, in fact the recruiter went out of his way to make it look like a contract to hire position.

A recruiter is not going to give out that information. What would then stop the applicant from going straight to the hiring company and cut out the overhead of a recruiter?

The recruiter used the OP.

This.

 

[Schfifty Five]

So he left a full-time position for this supposed "6 month" contract job which turned out to be only 10 weeks?

Even if it was a 6 month contract job, was it really that much better to let go a secured full-time position? Or was his original job even that good to begin with?

So basically your friend is now unemployed?

 

[FDF12389]

So he left a full-time position for this supposed "6 month" contract job which turned out to be only 10 weeks?

Even if it was a 6 month contract job, was it really that much better to let go a secured full-time position? Or was his original job even that good to begin with?

He had just moved back here, and he took a fulltime position that was not a good fit for him, it didn't even pay much more than unemployment, but he took it because he likes to work for his money. When I heard about the contract I knew it was a better fit for him, and six months was an acceptable risk. Had he known it was ten weeks he would have held out for something else, and I wouldn't have even called him if I knew.

So basically your friend is now unemployed?

Yes.

 

[FDF12389]

Find a new recruiter to work with instead of these asshats.

Don't tell them in advance that you're through with them...just find someone else...then, when they call you again, simply decline. No explanations, no "Fuck you...you fucked me and my friend," simply turn down any future offers.

Would it be wise to setup a meeting with this recruiters account manager? I understand the wisdom in your advice, however I find it hard because its very insulting that he thought he could do this without anyone finding out. :\

 

[Schfifty Five]

He had just moved back here, and he took a fulltime position that was not a good fit for him, it didn't even pay much more than unemployment, but he took it because he likes to work for his money. When I heard about the contract I knew it was a better fit for him, and six months was an acceptable risk. Had he known it was ten weeks he would have held out for something else, and I wouldn't have even called him if I knew.



Yes.

damn man, that sucks. hope he's able to find something.

 

[Phokus]

Would it be wise to setup a meeting with this recruiters account manager? I understand the wisdom in your advice, however I find it hard because its very insulting that he thought he could do this without anyone finding out. :\

I think this account manager would have a bright future with Goldman Sachs. This guy really knows how to screw people.