I just got outbid on Fleabay =(

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cubby1223

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It's called, bid higher. It's not the last person who bids who wins, it's the person who bids the highest wins.

Sniping is fine & everything, but if you don't enter a high enough bid you don't have a second chance to go higher. The other person just wanted the item more.
 

bluestrobe

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I never got the snipe bidding thing. I put in the max amount I want to pay and come back when the auction is done. Snipe bidding just defeats the purpose of the whole auction process IMO and takes the fun out of it. I had over 100 bids on one of my auctions because of snipe bidding.
 

Old Hippie

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The main point in sniping is not "beating" another bidder but not revealing your true interest until the last moments -unlike an early proxy bid which would contribute to raising the price over the duration.
Thank You MrWizzard! :thumbsup:
If nobody understands this, I'll send you some emails from losing Ebay bidders saying "Gee, I didn't know anybody else was interested in this item". I can't see any reason not to snipe.

Why use a bot why not manually bid in the last 5 seconds....
You don't have to be watching the auction?
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: Auric
The main point in sniping is not "beating" another bidder but not revealing your true interest until the last moments -unlike an early proxy bid which would contribute to raising the price over the duration. However, there is no benefit versus simply entering a proxy bid in the final moments given that, again, you want to win only up to the price you are willing to spend and not irrationally "beat" another bidder and thus "lose" by over paying. In any case, you must bid first so that your future bids will take precedence over others.

Ergo, to "win" in short:
-make first bid
-enter max proxy bid near end
-observe snipetards whip themselves into a frenzy only to lose or otherwise spend more than you were willing to anyway

And, who wants to live their life around remembering to enter bids in near the ends of auctions?
 

bctbct

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Dec 22, 2005
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
i still don't understand how sniping is any different than entering a proxy bid with a short amount of time left. a friend of mine who was really into sniping couldn't explain it. i doubt anyone else can.

My theory.

It doesnt really help against a last second successful manual snipe except that a sniping program will likely not have a giltch at the like last second bidding can.

It helps against inexperience bidders because some people will keep bidding against a proxy bid jacking it up yet still not winning the auction. If you let a inexperience bidder hold the lead until 2 seconds and then your snipe bid steals it for a lower price.

A sniping program will not help you with a proxy bid that is too high for what you want to pay, which is irrelavent anyway.

A sniper program also allows you to bid on an item days before the end of the auction and you can forget about it.

It also have been very successful for me, another trick I do is to enter the amount xx.52. Items above $100 I believe bid in increments of $2.50. If two bids are placed at the same time for the same amount...I win.



 

DBL

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Originally posted by: Auric
The main point in sniping is not "beating" another bidder but not revealing your true interest until the last moments -unlike an early proxy bid which would contribute to raising the price over the duration. However, there is no benefit versus simply entering a proxy bid in the final moments given that, again, you want to win only up to the price you are willing to spend and not irrationally "beat" another bidder and thus "lose" by over paying. In any case, you must bid first so that your future bids will take precedence over others.

Ergo, to "win" in short:
-make first bid
-enter max proxy bid near end
-observe snipetards whip themselves into a frenzy only to lose or otherwise spend more than you were willing to anyway

Do you value your time?
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: mugs
You know, it doesn't matter how close to the end of the auction you bid if you bid higher than the other guy... bid as much as you're willing to spend. If you don't win, it's because it was too expensive for you.

You know, you like to brag about going to Caltech, but this and other posts you've made have made me wonder if that is something they want you spreading around. ;)

No I don't go to Caltech and but I guess that's cuz you haven't figured out Cal stands for California.

Uh... yeah, I forgot which school in California you go to. Whoops. I'm sure they're all embarrassed by you regardless.

Anyways, the point is I don't know how high this thing can go up to. If you're wondering what they are, they're football tickets. They're going for $50 on ebay for a pair while they're easily $50 apiece on Craigslist. I know the retail value is quite a bit too. It's hard to gauge what the price should be on Ebay. Second of all, this is a for a friend who clearly wasn't as wise in getting season tickets like myself.

I've won CPUs before and with those components its easier to judge the price it should be based on their retail price and thus I could find a reasonable price to set my max bid at.

It does matter how close to the end of the auction you bid if you want a lower price. There's reasons for bid sniping and it's not for everyone. If you like to sit back and relax and get that win for sure, you dont need to snipe. Of course if I want to save a little money, you could use a sniping program. I don't exactly trust sniping programs so that's why I do it manually.

It doesn't matter how much it's going to go up to. If you bid as much as you are willing to spend, then if you get outbid it's because the price was more than you were willing to pay. I'm not saying that you should bid 3 days before the end, I know there are a lot of people who don't understand proxy bidding and you can beat those people by bidding at the end. But you seem to think the problem is that you're getting outsniped, when the problem is that you are not bidding enough to win the item! When I said it doesn't matter how close to the end you bid, I meant it doesn't matter if you bid 15 seconds from the end or 5 seconds from the end. He's not winning because he bid later, he's winning because he bid more.

Holy hell.
 

iRONic

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Originally posted by: jatwell
Almost hate to post this in case they change the pricing policy (ie: free) but this site has been working for 1-2 years now for free sniping:

http://www.esteal.net

I usually put a delta time of about 4-5 seconds, anything less and it can be unreliable. Seems to work great for me.
Thanks! I just tried it with an 8 second delta for an auction that ends in two hours.

*crosses fingers*
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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it's easy to beat, PUT THE MAXIMUM YOU ARE WILLING TO PAY

If you got beat out, then it simply means the other guy was willing to pay more than you
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: DBL

Do you value your time?

that seems to be about the only reason to use one for me. i tend not to bid manually until it's about 20 seconds left anyway. (because i'm trying to avoid the irrational types who don't put in their maximum value in proxy bid to begin with)
 

Homerboy

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www.justsnipe.com - FREE

While I agree that placing your "max bid" is a safe way to go, by doing that you can often artificially increase the price of the auction. If you place your bid with 5sec left there is no time for anyone to bump it $5 more.
 

ppdes

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The number of auctions that go for near retail or over for used stuff on ebay is insane. I consider 'losing' the item in those cases a good thing. It really annoyed me when they started hiding who the bidders were, you used to be able to see the same person bidding on all of another person's auctions and figure out that they were faking bids to get the price up.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Homerboy
www.justsnipe.com - FREE

While I agree that placing your "max bid" is a safe way to go, by doing that you can often artificially increase the price of the auction. If you place your bid with 5sec left there is no time for anyone to bump it $5 more.

that's why you put in your max bid with 10 seconds left

you don't get sniped, and if you do that means they were willing to pay more anyway
 

dquan97

Lifer
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Here's a 100% winner: Enter an amount that's twice what the product is worth. You'll win every time.
 

HannibalX

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I guess I'm old fashioned. I enter the actually amount I am willing to pay, and forget about it. If I win I win, if not oh well. It's eBay not a nuclear bomb....
 
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Originally posted by: holden j caufield
how many seconds before the end can auctionsnipe do? 2? 3?

I think they recommend 5 or more. Anything less and the server might be too slow.

Congrats for bumping a 2 month old thread.
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
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Um, proxy bidding. Sniping my ass. If the auction is at $40, and the max you're willing to pay regardless no matter what is $60, then enter in $60. If a "sniper" outbids you with 1 second left then it's no loss because you wouldn't pay a dime more. How hard is it for people to understand that concept? You can say what you want about "well it raises up the price" - then put in your fvcking proxy bid within the last minute. It's people like this that say "OMG I GOT OUTSNIPED IM THE PWNZERED" when you put in a bid that's $5 higher than the current bid - well of course you're going to get outbid. It just boggles the mind when there are safeguards in place from eBay that prevents these occurrences.
 

Eli

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"For the first two times of my life"

:confused:

:laugh:

So which is it, the 1st or 2nd time? :p