I just built my computer and played around with the BIOS

[Josh7289]

I have an MSI RS480M2-IL and I played around with the BIOS and now I only see garbled gibberish on the monitor...How can I reset the BIOS settings or something? Thank you very much.

 

[Bozo Galora]

"enable failsafe defaults"

 

[mOeeOm]

Reset the CMOS, shut down your computer, open your computer, you will see a round battery, beside it there will be a 3 pin jumper, the jumper will be in 1-2 position, take it out, and put it into the 2-3 position, leave it here for 10 seconds, then put it back into the 1-2 position, and turn on the comp.

 

[Josh7289]

I'll try that. Be right back. That resets all the BIOS settings, right?

 

[fishstickz]

I have this board.

There is a clear CMOS jumper. The manual is your friend here- it well tell you its position, near the sata ports.

Bring it over to the clear setting, then bring it back to the keep setting. I believe it just involves moving a jumper 1 pin down, and then back again.

Edit: This resets all the BIOS settings.

If this does not work, remove the system from the mains, and remove the battery, leave it for an hour, replace the battery, and then see if it works again.

 

[Josh7289]

Originally posted by: fishstickz
If this does not work, remove the system from the mains, and remove the battery, leave it for an hour, replace the battery, and then see if it works again.

Okay, I moved the jumper down and up again a few times and it did not fix the problem. I did notice however that the jumper on the CMOS thing is oriented in the opposite direction of the other jumpers on the board. I tried it both directions to no avail, although the orientation should not matter.

Could you explain this detailed please so I don't mess anything up?

Thanks.

 

[cryptonomicon]

power off and unplug
it doesnt matter what orientation the jumper is in, as long as it completes the circuit.

CLEAR CMOS INSTRUCTIONS

-remove cmos battery
-switch cmos jumper, leave for 1 minute
-switch cmos jumper back
-replace battery


if it doesnt work, something is messed. try reseating the video card, if it doesnt work you might have corrupted your bios or maybe your VGA bios.

 

[SlitheryDee]

The computer shouldn't post at all if the CMOS jumper is in the incorrect position.

What settings were you messing with in the BIOS?

 

[Josh7289]

I'm using the integrated video...You mean the Panasonic battery in there?

God, please let this work.

 

[fishstickz]

Originally posted by: Josh7289

Originally posted by: fishstickz
If this does not work, remove the system from the mains, and remove the battery, leave it for an hour, replace the battery, and then see if it works again.

Could you explain this detailed please so I don't mess anything up?

Thanks.

Alright... this is what I do in this situation.

Unplug the computer.

Move the jumper to the clear setting. I know the jumper is oriented differently, don't worry about it, it is supposed to be that way.

There is a shiny flat battery a few inches up from the jumper. Edit: Panasonic brand. You need to remove it- it might require a screwdriver to get it out (once you see it, this instruction makes more sense, these is a latching mechanism of sorts).

Leave it that way for some time. There are many arguments on the length of time, I like to try about 10 mins (I said an hour to make sure you were absoluty sure).

Change the jumper back to the keep CMOS position, and re-insert the battery, then boot again.

If this doesn't work, something is probably fubar. Try the reseating the video card. If that doesn't work, you might be in trouble. Someone else will have to help you then.

 

[Josh7289]

I know I changed the AGP something or another to None from 64 or whatever since I don't have an AGP card...But nothing too bad, I think...?
How do I remove the battery?

 

[fishstickz]

Originally posted by: Josh7289
How do I remove the battery?

See my post above - you need a screwdriver - flat head preferably.

I know I changed the AGP something or another to None from 64 or whatever since I don't have an AGP card...But nothing too bad, I think...?

Edit: Probably not. Resetting the BIOS should save your bacon here.

 

[Josh7289]

How hard is it to remove the battery? I'm having some trouble. I don't want to force it and break something, you know?

 

[Josh7289]

And once I'm able to remove the battery, should I keep it out for an hour to make absolutely sure that will fix it? I don't care how long it takes, I just want to fix this thing.

Thanks again.

 

[theMan]

yeah, leave the battery out for an hour. also, leave the jumper in that postion for an hour. then, put the batter back in, but the jumper back how it was, and turn on the computer.

 

[Josh7289]

I just got the battery out, BUT what I was trying to do before to remove the battery was I was pushing the locking mechanism in the opposite direction trying to pry out the battery. When I was doing this, I heard something SNAP, though I can't see what it was or anything looking snapped, broken, or damaged. Anyway, when I pushed the locking mechanism backwards, I noticed the battery move, then realized that's the way to make it come out. I'm waiting an hour now and praying for this to work. Can I wait more than an hour to be sure? Also, could what I just described have caused any damage? Thank you very much.

 

[Bozo Galora]

Originally posted by: Josh7289
I know I changed the AGP something or another to None from 64 or whatever since I don't have an AGP card...But nothing too bad, I think...?

You dont have an agp card, but you do have an AGP bus for the onboard ATI video.
By changing AGP aperture to 0 you stopped any texture transfers to the RAM
Just resetting bios defaults would have fixed it.
64 or 128 MB arpeture is best for your mobo

http://www.pcstats.com/articleimages/200506/MSIRS480M2IL_BIOS3.jpg

 

[MrDudeMan]

you dont have to wait for an hour. just disconnect the power supply, take the battery out, and press the on button. that gets rid of leftover charge in most of the capacitors.

if you need help you can call me. ill PM you my phone number if you want.

 

[Josh7289]

Just turn it on?! Will that damage anything? How long should I leave it on without the battery?

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Josh7289
Just turn it on?! Will that damage anything? How long should I leave it on without the battery?

What he's saying is that while the pc is UNPLUGGED, push the power botton. The PC will NOT turn on as it is UNPLUGGED.

By pushing the power button, it will drain the last bit electricity out of it.

Fern

BTW, if you have a mobo manual, you might look for a key to press (example "F8") during boot that will automaticall reset the BIOS to default.

No Need to panic, nothing has been damaged. Your just learning a procedure "new" to you that will revert things back to normal

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Fern
BTW, if you have a mobo manual, you might consider reading the damned thing before you f*ck with settings that you don't know jack about.

Fixed that little typo for you.

- M4H

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Josh7289
Just turn it on?! Will that damage anything? How long should I leave it on without the battery?

What he's saying is that while the pc is UNPLUGGED, push the power botton. The PC will NOT turn on as it is UNPLUGGED.

By pushing the power button, it will drain the last bit electricity out of it.

Fern

BTW, if you have a mobo manual, you might look for a key to press (example "F8") during boot that will automaticall reset the BIOS to default.

No Need to panic, nothing has been damaged. Your just learning a procedure "new" to you that will revert things back to normal

yes, that is what i meant.

 

[Josh7289]

OK, it's working again, though it says something about the CMOS being errored and reseting to defaults or something. It still saves whatever changes I make to the BIOS now, though. Anyway, I get the same problem when I changed these things in the BIOS now and my "reasons" (which ones should I change, etc. to make it work?):

Date, Time, etc.
Drive A [None] (Since I don't have a floppy drive)
Quick Power On Self Test [Disabled] (It says in the manual it's safer this way"
First Boot Device [CD-ROM] (OS, and, after I install the OS, should I change this to hard disk or what?)
Second Boot Device [Hard Disk] (Obvious)
Third and Fourth Boot Devices [Disabled] (The other choices are Removable and Network, what should I do here?)
Boot Up Floppy Seek [Disabled] (No floppy drive)
Internal Video Memory [UMA+SidePort] (It's suppossed to be faster...? Anything else I should change for the video?)
UMA Frame Buffer Size [128MB] (Best video)
Init Display First [Onboard] (The other choices are PCIEx and I think AGP...This might be what's screwing it up...?)

Are there any changes I should make here, and are there any other changes I should make in the BIOS? I'd prefer an answer from someone who owns this board, like fishstickz.

Thank you all very much!

EDIT: The "snap" I heard earlier when playing with the battery: do you think that damaged anything?

Thanks again!

Also, I'm sort of just following what the manual says, and just trying what sounds best for what it doesn't explain. I'm sorry about screwing things up and making this hard for you, but I want to learn what everything does. Thanks.

 

[Josh7289]

I feel like I have to bump this already.

 

[theMan]

wait, you got the same problem from just changing the date and time???

you may have to flash the bios again.