I just bought a 5d

[angry hampster]

YAY

I'm spending a semester in Australia starting in June, so I thought I'd get the best of the best for landscapes and portrait work while student loans have low interest. I'll probably be opening up a small studio next year.


Any other 5D users in here? I'm planning to get a 17-40 and possible a 135 f/2 to compliment my 24-70 and 50mm. Also, I'm selling my Tokina 10-17mm that I've used with my 20d for a few months, it's in the FS forum.

 

[dug777]

Where in Australia?

Perth?

 

[alfa147x]

Congrats man

Canon baby

 

[jpeyton]

Great sensor. I really wish Canon had incrementally upgraded the body around it.

Still might pick one up if the prices drop a little more.

 

[AndrewR]

Aren't they rumored to be updating the 5D this year, presumably at Photokina?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: AndrewR
Aren't they rumored to be updating the 5D this year, presumably at Photokina?

Word. The 5D is turning 3-years-old this year; that's about 90 in digital camera years.

 

[soydios]

The 5D is still an amazing camera after 3 years. But that means that if it had been updated a year ago it would be even better!

To echo AndrewR and jpeyton, there haven't been any confirmed rumors about it, but the Canon community is collectively expecting a 5DmkII at Photokina this year. Canon would be stupid not to.

Nikon really needs to get sensor production up to speed for the D3 and possible D3X so that they can release a competitor (I've taken to calling it D300x) to the 5D. Full-frame is the format which SLRs are returning to, for a number of reasons: to fully utilize the half-century of full-frame lenses, to get the most pixels or highest ISO, and for the larger brighter viewfinder.

 

[Deadtrees]

I'm a 5D user as well. I currently have 24-70 f/2.8 and 50mm f/1.4 lenses.

I've used:
1. 17-40mm f/4 : Great lens for its price. I loved the wide angle it provided and the overall quality of the lens.
2. 50mm f/1.8 : Great lens for cropped sensor cameras but for full frame, it sucks. I'm not so picky about corner sharpness/CA issues but it was just way too bad.
3. 70-200 f/2.8 : Amazing lens. I often borrow it from a friend. Too bad I don't have enough money to buy it.
4. 15mm fisheye f/2.8 : Fun lens! but its use was quite limited so I replaced it with 17-40mm.
5. 100mm f/2.0 : Great portrait lens. Usable in many situations. This used to be the lens for every occasions as I loved how it was distortion free not to mention the sharpness it provided.
6. 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS : As it's often called "poor men's L lens", its quality was quite good. Great bargain considering its price.

Anyway, 5D is still an amazing camera because of its image quality. Though there's no doubt 5D MK2 will be so much better than current 5D, I think its image quality would be a bit better at most.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: soydios
The 5D is still an amazing camera after 3 years. But that means that if it had been updated a year ago it would be even better!

I'm glad they didn't. gives them some time to see what the competition comes up with. however, given the D3/300's were just released, not sure how that can play into the development cycle anyway.

 

[GTaudiophile]

If I had a 5D or FF Canon body, I think my IDEAL lens collection would look like this:

EF 17-40 F4L
EF 24-70 F2.8L IS (Does not exist...yet)
EF 70-200 F4L IS
EF 35 F1.4L or EF 50 F1.2L (I really wish Canon would just make a EF 50 F1.4 MkII with Ring USM and sell it for $400.)

If the 5D MkII debuts with a 24-70 F2.8L IS lens, then it might be very hard for me to stay away. I would have to sell my EOS-20D, EFS 10-22, and EFS 17-55. But going from the 17-55 F2.8 IS to a 24-105 F4L IS or 24-70 F2.8L (non-IS) just wouldn't cut it for me.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: soydios
The 5D is still an amazing camera after 3 years. But that means that if it had been updated a year ago it would be even better!

I'm glad they didn't. gives them some time to see what the competition comes up with. however, given the D3/300's were just released, not sure how that can play into the development cycle anyway.

I think it's fair to say the D300/D3 blindsided Canon, because for every release before that, Nikon had always produced cameras that were roughly equivalents of Canon's offerings. Equivalent enough to keep Nikon users upgrading, but not superior enough to make Canon users switch.

The data for DSLR marketshare was released recently, and Nikon is now more/less tied with Canon (a big jump from a year earlier where Canon had a 10 point advantage). While the bulk of Nikon's sales were sub-$1000 models, having halo-products like the D300/D3 certainly helped people lean in their direction. It also provided Nikon with a lot of good press.

I think the 40D was too late into its development cycle for Canon to make revisions based on Nikon's releases, but the 5D MkII was not. I think you'll see obvious me-too upgrades like a VGA LCD, HDMI, bigger buffer, faster continuous shooting; but hopefully Canon had a chance to engineer other more important features like more AF points/modes, on-demand gridlines, etc.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Agreed. Had it not been for the D3/D300, we would have seen the 5D MkII by now. Mean while, I think it was sent back to the drawing board. Competition is good!

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

I think the 40D was too late into its development cycle for Canon to make revisions based on Nikon's releases, but the 5D MkII was not. I think you'll see obvious me-too upgrades like a VGA LCD, HDMI, bigger buffer, faster continuous shooting; but hopefully Canon had a chance to engineer other more important features like more AF points/modes, on-demand gridlines, etc.

Even if it wasn't, they were working on a 30D replacement, something to be in that price bracket.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: jpeyton

I think the 40D was too late into its development cycle for Canon to make revisions based on Nikon's releases, but the 5D MkII was not. I think you'll see obvious me-too upgrades like a VGA LCD, HDMI, bigger buffer, faster continuous shooting; but hopefully Canon had a chance to engineer other more important features like more AF points/modes, on-demand gridlines, etc.

Even if it wasn't, they were working on a 30D replacement, something to be in that price bracket.

arguably, they could could have stepped up the competition a bit for the 40D features. IMO, the 40D is the true 20D replacement.. the 30D seemed like such a baby step. Not that any of them are really bad.

 

[angry hampster]

Originally posted by: dug777
Where in Australia?

Perth?

Hobart (tasmania) actually. Kinda curious of there's any AT members in the area.

 

[jpeyton]

Curious, what kind of deal did you get on the 5D? Is Canon running any rebates or discounts on it?

 

[angry hampster]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Curious, what kind of deal did you get on the 5D? Is Canon running any rebates or discounts on it?

I got it used on the canon digital photo board for $1900 with a grip. The seller said it's only got ~7k shots on it and it looked to be in perfect shape.

 

[corkyg]

I had two 5Ds (long story!) I just sold one of them complete with 24-0105 f/4 L IS lens locally for $2K.
I carry three lenses normally - the 25-105, and my favorite, the 70-300mm DO IS, - and for low light work, the 50mm f/1.2 L.

This afternoon I pursued my giant saguaro flowers - they are about 20 feet above the ground, so I hauled out a 10 foot ladder, and snapped this with the 70-300 lens with a circular polarizer attached:

Saguaro

 

[jpeyton]

Damn corky, I would've given you $2k easy for a 5D kit.

Originally posted by: corkyg
Saguaro

The sensor dust is strong in that pic.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: corkyg
I had two 5Ds (long story!) I just sold one of them complete with 24-0105 f/4 L IS lens locally for $2K.

!!!

 

[corkyg]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Damn corky, I would've given you $2k easy for a 5D kit.

Originally posted by: corkyg
Saguaro

The sensor dust is strong in that pic.

Yes, I am aware of that. It is scheduled for a complete cleaning next week. It hasn't been cleaned in almost 2 years.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Great sensor. I really wish Canon had incrementally upgraded the body around it.

Still might pick one up if the prices drop a little more.

the 5D is on a 3 year product cycle. while it'd be nice to have some incremental upgrades on an 18 month cycle, canon doesn't want to cannibalize 1Ds sales. and sometimes pricing is more important than added check-box features.

i mean, it took nikon 2 years to come up with a camera that can match it :evil: and at twice the cost :evil: :evil:

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Agreed. Had it not been for the D3/D300, we would have seen the 5D MkII by now. Mean while, I think it was sent back to the drawing board. Competition is good!

i honestly don't think so. it's pretty clear that the 5D trails the 1Ds by 1 year. which will be olympics/photokina. photokina is the most important photography trade show, and the olympics are also very historically important (and maybe moreso this year being that they're in beijing). so do you really think that canon would have just about nothing to launch at those events? that's basically what you're saying if you think that the 5D II was supposed to have been released already.


as for the better LCD, story goes that sony didn't mention anything to canon about it until the 40D was very close to release. and, depending on how much sony wants for it, i'm not certain that the 40D would have had one even if sony told canon about it earlier. like i said, price points matter.

 

[soydios]

The 40D is still at a really good point on the price/features curve. If I were a Canon user, that's the camera that I would have.

I'm curious what the Nikon D4 will bring us in five years. The return of intra-exposure metering? Six-digit ISO rating? Integrated wireless and GPS? Radio-controlled wireless flash?

 

[jpeyton]

I've seen an unconfirmed report on a photography forum about Best Buy closing-out the 5D kit at certain stores; I'll see if I can get lucky with the Best Buy clearance lottery and pick one up tomorrow.

 

[finbarqs]

I almost went with a 5D... In fact, I was almost set on the 5D. But then, I just couldn't shift away from the D300. I mean when you're shooting at such a high quality, Cropped, Full frame is merely a tool to help your vision. You'll still produce remarkable work!

But anyway, the full weather sealing, 100% frame coverage, 52 AF points, Live View, 3" LCD w/ 900k pixels, cheap low dispertion lenses (don't have to get a L lens) and tons of walk around lenses made me sway to the nikon camp. I mean, the 5D didn't even have a sensor cleaner! I have used the 5D for a couple of weeks (bought one at fry's then returned it).

I guess I'm just waiting for the next 5D with full weather sealing, better live view (where it doesn't drop the mirror), 3" + 900k screen, Dust cleaner, etc. Remember the general rule: the bigger the photosites, the more dynamic range you have (hence bigger sensors have greater dynamic range than smaller sensors)

Or maybe i'll just pull the trigger on a hassel blad 31mp MF