i just attempted to watch a video so gruesome...

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: Auggie
How can torturing these kids who tortured victims bring any kind of justice? That's mere vengeance, mere animal hatred and disregard for their humanity. As beastly as their crimes are, it doesn't mean that they are not human.

The fact that they are human shouldn't be denied. It is useful. Humans can feel fear and terror. This is what makes torture so fun. Emotionally destroying another human to the point where they wish for death. It would be amusing to watch, don't you think?

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: Auggie
How can torturing these kids who tortured victims bring any kind of justice? That's mere vengeance, mere animal hatred and disregard for their humanity. As beastly as their crimes are, it doesn't mean that they are not human.

The fact that they are human shouldn't be denied. It is useful. Humans can feel fear and terror. This is what makes torture so fun. Emotionally destroying another human to the point where they wish for death. It would be amusing to watch, don't you think?

No.

I am horrified by what they did and believe that they don't deserve to live. More importantly, the human race itself would benefit from their removal from it. None of this means that I can suddenly develop a taste for pain and/or gain pleasure from watching ANYONE be tortured. Wwe should do what needs to be done quickly and, if we feel any emotion at all, with sadness at its necessity.

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: Auggie
How can torturing these kids who tortured victims bring any kind of justice? That's mere vengeance, mere animal hatred and disregard for their humanity. As beastly as their crimes are, it doesn't mean that they are not human.

The fact that they are human shouldn't be denied. It is useful. Humans can feel fear and terror. This is what makes torture so fun. Emotionally destroying another human to the point where they wish for death. It would be amusing to watch, don't you think?

No. I am horrified by what they did and believe that they don't deserve to live. More importantly, the human race itself would benefit from their removal from it. None of this means that I can suddenly develop a taste for pain and/or gain pleasure from watching ANYONE be tortured. As I said, we should do what needs to be done quickly and with sadness at it's necessity.

yet, what if that was the ultimate goal for these kids? what if they knew they would cause all of this pain and suffering but in the end, the would get a quick and painless ticket to hell? How is that fair to those the brutally murdered for their own fun? The fear of such a death would probably stop a good amount of people from going that route and killing for fun. Those that do regardless of the cosequences find out just how painful the type of death and pain they force on someone else will be.

 

[Mrvile]

Did anyone else see this from the Wikipedia article?

No official link between the murders was made until the July 7 attack on two boys in Podgorodnoye. Vadim Lyakhov, the survivor, was initially placed under arrest, suspected of murdering his friend. He was reportedly denied access to counsel and beaten by police during questioning. However, it quickly became clear that he was not responsible for his friend's death, and that the murder was connected with the murder spree.

 

[blurredvision]

I made it 25 seconds before I shut it off.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Auggie
How can torturing these kids who tortured victims bring any kind of justice? That's mere vengeance, mere animal hatred and disregard for their humanity. As beastly as their crimes are, it doesn't mean that they are not human.

They aren't human. Torturing these sub-human animals sets a good example for other would-be psychos.

Limp wrists are not a crime deterrant. The size 25 steel toe boot-of-law up the ass, however, is.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: Auggie
How can torturing these kids who tortured victims bring any kind of justice? That's mere vengeance, mere animal hatred and disregard for their humanity. As beastly as their crimes are, it doesn't mean that they are not human.

The fact that they are human shouldn't be denied. It is useful. Humans can feel fear and terror. This is what makes torture so fun. Emotionally destroying another human to the point where they wish for death. It would be amusing to watch, don't you think?

No.

I am horrified by what they did and believe that they don't deserve to live. More importantly, the human race itself would benefit from their removal from it. None of this means that I can suddenly develop a taste for pain and/or gain pleasure from watching ANYONE be tortured. Wwe should do what needs to be done quickly and, if we feel any emotion at all, with sadness at its necessity.

Emotion has no place determining law or punishment.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: Nik

Emotion has no place determining law or punishment.

Being horrified is my emotional response. Calling for a quick and painless execution is my cold, calculating assessment. ...or were you agreeing with me?

 

[bananapeel42]

Quick execution, all is needed. Just as someone else said, when something is so clear cut as this. Firing squad, hanging, electric chair.

I vote fry the fuckers.

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Auggie
How can torturing these kids who tortured victims bring any kind of justice? That's mere vengeance, mere animal hatred and disregard for their humanity. As beastly as their crimes are, it doesn't mean that they are not human.

They aren't human. Torturing these sub-human animals sets a good example for other would-be psychos.

Limp wrists are not a crime deterrant. The size 25 steel toe boot-of-law up the ass, however, is.

Sociopaths do what they do because they're incapable of empathy. Torturing these kids wouldn't deter real psychos.

Just kill them quick and be done with it.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Auggie
How can torturing these kids who tortured victims bring any kind of justice? That's mere vengeance, mere animal hatred and disregard for their humanity. As beastly as their crimes are, it doesn't mean that they are not human.

They aren't human. Torturing these sub-human animals sets a good example for other would-be psychos.

Limp wrists are not a crime deterrant. The size 25 steel toe boot-of-law up the ass, however, is.

Sociopaths do what they do because they're incapable of empathy. Torturing these kids wouldn't deter real psychos.

Just kill them quick and be done with it.

I agree that real sociopaths won't change. That's why I typed would-be psychos, not already-well-seated psychos

 

[BladeVenom]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
It's a good thing none of the victims had a gun, it would have only escalated the violence.

I don't know if this is supposed to be sarcastic? Your post makes absolutely no sense.

Yes, it's sarcasm. Haven't you ever heard the anti 2nd Amendment Nazis use that line when it comes to self defense?

 

[lyssword]

I suggest you guys play a lot of tetris. http://www.livescience.com/tec...tetris-flashbacks.html to forget this, it may help

I haven't watched this but reading wiki, makes me lose hope for humanity I was born about 150 miles away from that city in the article

 

[rivan]

:|

 

[OCGuy]

Nick Berg video actually ruined my day....I think I was 18 or 19.

Since then, I have no problem with whatever happens to a Jihadi.

 

[Farang]

The nickname of the killers followed by .com provides a transcript of the video. I don't think the video itself is there so you're ok.

 

[covert24]

ok.....well i watched it..... and it was a bad idea........

i honestly hope that these assholes get what they deserve. I don't think they should get a firing squad because that would make their death fast and virtually pain free. these kids deserve the EXACT same thing that they did to that poor man....

omg wtf.......

 

[imported_Devine]

I will watch literally any thing out there, but when it comes to shit like this, I just refuse to watch them. Like others have said, you cant un-see any of that so no thx.

 

[Tooncesthedrivingcat]

I watched it all. I'm not shocked by anything anymore but these kids are filthy animals. Just kill them.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Originally posted by: alchemize
You can't un-see something. Stuff like this eats a hole in your soul, ask any cop. I'll pass. The wikipedia article was plenty...

That's so true. I watched the russian soldier beheading, and I've regretted it ever since. I'll never watch another video like that again because it's just too sad to think about.

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: Mrvile
Did anyone else see this from the Wikipedia article?

No official link between the murders was made until the July 7 attack on two boys in Podgorodnoye. Vadim Lyakhov, the survivor, was initially placed under arrest, suspected of murdering his friend. He was reportedly denied access to counsel and beaten by police during questioning. However, it quickly became clear that he was not responsible for his friend's death, and that the murder was connected with the murder spree.

so what? its eastern europe. that's par for the course.

 

[Xylitol]

worst i've seen is 10 seconds of pain olympics / *****.
could never finish those, so I don't even want to try this. I'm done with gross internet videos

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Nick Berg video actually ruined my day....I think I was 18 or 19.

Since then, I have no problem with whatever happens to a Jihadi.

i couldnt get the video this thread is about out of my head for weeks. its brutal. quite possibly the worst, and ive seen a bunch.

 

[Bulk Beef]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Eli
Nick Berg?

That was my first guess. First beheading I'd seen. Horrific

So you finally acknowledged that it was genuine? You were in complete denial when the Berg video first showed up.

 

[meltdown75]

i don't even try to watch stuff like that. i've never seen *****, i just don't see the point in watching anything like that.