I hope Trump wins re-election in 2020

[JEDI]

he's been the Dem's biggest helper!
no Democrat (including Hillary as Pres) could have helped the Dem Party more than Trump these past 2 years.

with him as pres again in 2020, im sure both the house and senate will be at least 2/3 Dems, which allows them to override any veto.

 

[DisarmedDespot]

he's been the Dem's biggest helper!
no Democrat (including Hillary) could have helped the Dem Party more than Trump these past 2 years.

with him as pres again in 2020, im sure both the house and senate will be at least 2/3 Dems, which allows them to override any veto.

I'm not as confident. The Republican party's proven to be more single-minded than I ever thought possible. Just look at the shutdown nonsense. Some of the same congressmen who were trashing the idea of a shutdown over the wall voted for the bill. The base is even more mindless, and doesn't even care about Trump being an idiot. The Dems don't have anywhere near that level of unit.

 

[cytg111]

The world cant take 6 years more of this BS.
How does it feel being Putins little bitch?
6 more years of Trump and your democracy is dead.. Hell he might make it in 2.
Someone need to figure out who has what on McConnell .. cause something is so very rotten right there.

 

[Caesar]

If he wins 2020 then that means there are enough partisan voters who were unmoved by all the crap he has done so far. So any additional damage he would do after getting elected in 2020 wouldn't move things that much on the direction of dems. Heck it's hard to understand that a guy like that still has around 40% approval.

 

[Sonikku]

he's been the Dem's biggest helper!
no Democrat (including Hillary) could have helped the Dem Party more than Trump these past 2 years.

with him as pres again in 2020, im sure both the house and senate will be at least 2/3 Dems, which allows them to override any veto.

I wouldn't bet on that. Gerrymandering assures minority rule for the GoP at best and the avoidance of a Democrat super majority at worst. We will continue to see voter fraud and laws rewritten to hurt incoming Democrats and Republican judges to bless the process.

Don't get me wrong though, in any other Democracy in the world? They'd be screwed! Just not in America.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

no

 

[Jaskalas]

no

Oh, HELL no!

 

[Jhhnn]

I wouldn't bet on that. Gerrymandering assures minority rule for the GoP at best and the avoidance of a Democrat super majority at worst. We will continue to see voter fraud and laws rewritten to hurt incoming Democrats and Republican judges to bless the process.

Don't get me wrong though, in any other Democracy in the world? They'd be screwed! Just not in America.

Well, there's Hungary. Poland is trying to get there, too. Italy's right wing is making their move. There's Brexit.

I can't imagine who's been pushing this stuff...

They apparently have plenty of useful idiots to go forward, Trump included.

 

[Jhhnn]

he's been the Dem's biggest helper!
no Democrat (including Hillary) could have helped the Dem Party more than Trump these past 2 years.

with him as pres again in 2020, im sure both the house and senate will be at least 2/3 Dems, which allows them to override any veto.

You radically underestimate the damage this country has sustained from Trump & a GOP congress. Not just Dems but all of us. If you think we're better off with Trump than Hillary, you're out of your mind.

 

[Stokely]

If it weren't for losing more years to climate change reduction efforts, and overall a pretty good chance of Trump starting a war over some perceived slight, and the ongoing efforts to siphon ever more money to the ultra-rich, and trade wars, and a continued reduction of respect and willingness to cooperate with the U.S. around the world....and more...I might agree.

However, I do hope that as a silver lining to what Trump has already done (and undone) that he drags the GOP down for years. Gotta have hope for something.

 

[Moonbeam]

You radically underestimate the damage this country has sustained from Trump & a GOP congress. Not just Dems but all of us. If you think we're better off with Trump than Hillary, you're out of your mind.

Why did I just hear “Hillary than Sanders”?

 

[Jhhnn]

If it weren't for losing more years to climate change reduction efforts, and overall a pretty good chance of Trump starting a war over some perceived slight, and the ongoing efforts to siphon ever more money to the ultra-rich, and trade wars, and a continued reduction of respect and willingness to cooperate with the U.S. around the world....and more...I might agree.

However, I do hope that as a silver lining to what Trump has already done (and undone) that he drags the GOP down for years. Gotta have hope for something.

I like to think that Trumpism is a giant boil on Uncle Sam's ass coming to a head to burst or go systemic to kill us. I'm hoping for the former.

 

[Jhhnn]

Why did I just hear “Hillary than Sanders”?

I dunno. I tried to guess but I couldn't find a way to be nice about it.

 

[DaaQ]

The world cant take 6 years more of this BS.
How does it feel being Putins little bitch?
6 more years of Trump and your democracy is dead.. Hell he might make it in 2.
Someone need to figure out who has what on McConnell .. cause something is so very rotten right there.

To defy the Constitution for a whole year by denying a sitting President the Constitutional right to nominate appointments to the Supreme Court, should be enough to have that bastard at minimum, removed from office.

 

[Moonbeam]

I dunno. I tried to guess but I couldn't find a way to be nice about it.

Well at least I got to express that bitterness comes in different flavors.

 

[Jhhnn]

To defy the Constitution for a whole year by denying a sitting President the Constitutional right to nominate appointments to the Supreme Court, should be enough to have that bastard at minimum, removed from office.

I figure McConnell operates on the basis of pure partisan spite & ruling class greed.

 

[woolfe9998]

It's looking increasingly as if we're headed into a recession, probably in the second half of next year. If so, Trump's chances of being re-elected are minimal. The bigger question is what will be the state of the country when he leaves office. He's causing damage on so many levels it's difficult to even get your head around all of it. He needs to go, like yesterday. At least Pence wouldn't be such a total loon on foreign policy.

 

[Viper1j]

he's been the Dem's biggest helper!
no Democrat (including Hillary) could have helped the Dem Party more than Trump these past 2 years.

with him as pres again in 2020, im sure both the house and senate will be at least 2/3 Dems, which allows them to override any veto.

Except for one thing.

Crazy baby has the launch codes. What happens if he gets sand in his vagina, and decides to use them?

 

[Moonbeam]

It's looking increasingly as if we're headed into a recession, probably in the second half of next year. If so, Trump's chances of being re-elected are minimal. The bigger question is what will be the state of the country when he leaves office. He's causing damage on so many levels it's difficult to even get your head around all of it. He needs to go, like yesterday. At least Pence wouldn't be such a total loon on foreign policy.

Sorry, but in my opinion, less loon in this area does not outweigh massive loon in totality and I don’t think if Trump didn’t agree with me he would have picked Pence as impeachment insurance.

 

[Commodus]

It's looking increasingly as if we're headed into a recession, probably in the second half of next year. If so, Trump's chances of being re-elected are minimal. The bigger question is what will be the state of the country when he leaves office. He's causing damage on so many levels it's difficult to even get your head around all of it. He needs to go, like yesterday. At least Pence wouldn't be such a total loon on foreign policy.

Two main consolations: first, it not only gets Trump out of office, but taints whichever Republican tries to fill his shoes. And the other thing: it (hopefully) shuts up the people trying to ascribe every little economic gain to Trump while ignoring his near-constant mistakes.

 

[woolfe9998]

Sorry, but in my opinion, less loon in this area does not outweigh massive loon in totality and I don’t think if Trump didn’t agree with me he would have picked Pence as impeachment insurance.

Nah, Pence was picked for whatever political advantage Trump saw in helping him lock up the evangelical vote. It had nothing to do with Pence agreeing with Trump on foreign policy. Pence is a traditional conservative on foreign policy. As such, I highly doubt he agrees with terribly many things Trump has done in this area. Pence would be a disaster on domestic policy, possibly worse in some ways than Trump, but I'm afraid what Trump is doing in the foreign policy arena may be where the most significant and long lasting damage will occur.

A rift between the United States and NATO allies over the future of the alliance.

A U.S. demand that Russia be returned to the Group of Seven , as Russia continues provocations in Ukraine.

A U.S. threat to pull out of the World Trade Organization, and a round of U.S.-imposed tariffs that severely weakened it.


A U.S. president abandoning human rights, accepting Saudi Arabia’s murder of a U.S.-based journalist and embracing repressive leaders around the globe.

A U.S. president creating a rift with Europe over Iran (the nuclear agreement) and climate change (the Paris accord).

A U.S. president embracing as “very honorable” North Korea’s brutal dictator without any tangible concessions on nuclear weapons.

A U.S.-launched trade war that, the Federal Reserve said this week, is partially responsible for cooling worldwide growth.

Lost confidence among Americans in elections, the Justice Department, the FBI, the courts and the free press.

And the loss of a bipartisan consensus against the Russian threat. Forty percent of Republicans called Russia an ally or friend in a Gallup poll, up from 22 percent in 2014.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d3874f1ac36_story.html?utm_term=.e265b5b22d7d

With Mattis gone now, Trump could even pull us out of NATO.

This is scary stuff.

 

[Moonbeam]

Nah, Pence was picked for whatever political advantage Trump saw in helping him lock up the evangelical vote. It had nothing to do with Pence agreeing with Trump on foreign policy. Pence is a traditional conservative on foreign policy. As such, I highly doubt he agrees with terribly many things Trump has done in this area. Pence would be a disaster on domestic policy, possibly worse in some ways than Trump, but I'm afraid what Trump is doing in the foreign policy arena may be where the most significant and long lasting damage will occur.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d3874f1ac36_story.html?utm_term=.e265b5b22d7d

With Mattis gone now, Trump could even pull us out of NATO.

This is scary stuff.

My real assumption as to why Trump picked Pence is because runs more along the lines of no competition and no visible signs of any real competence but I hate to see anything positive said about him because I believe that Trump is toast. We are just waiting now for the fat lady to sing.

He's also losing his touch. There is no Republican party anymore, just the Trump party and he doesn't seem to have the courage to see it. All he has to do is get on twitter and proclaim that Coulter and Limbaugh are establishment traitors and need to be taken off the air, that we don't need a wall, we need a spray-paint line to be paid for by donations and anybody who says otherwise is a Trump party traitor and he could shoot those two assholes in the Senate demanding a wall and nobody would care. You don't make trouble for God's right hand man.

 

[1prophet]

Evangelicals believe God put Trump in office for their pet issues,

https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...icans-believe-god-made-trump-president-216537

Millions of Americans Believe God Made Trump President.

Imagine though if he was put in there for a different reason altogether, not for salvation of America but for its damnation,

And who can lead America straight to hell better than Trump.

But you don't need to believe in any of this because the Democrats are going to save us from Trump and ourselves.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Evangelicals believe God put Trump in office for their pet issues,

https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...icans-believe-god-made-trump-president-216537

Millions of Americans Believe God Made Trump President.

Imagine though if he was put in there for a different reason altogether, not for salvation of America but for its damnation,

And who can lead America straight to hell better than Trump.

But you don't need to believe in any of this because the Democrats are going to save us from Trump and ourselves.

Religious conservatives, it's why we can't have nice things.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Quasi-related perhaps, but Trump would need to survive things like this.

I missed this, RICO lawsuit.

The amount in damages sought is minimal and it's civil but not criminal. Nevertheless invoking RICO may lead to the discovery of illegal activities and once Trump goes RICO he never goes back. Our resident attornies please opine, but from the tone of the judge in the article, there's not a whole lot of sympathy or an attitude that Trump's actions could be excused.

But more directly having Trump back in 2020 is like Ginsberg getting more cancer. It makes no sense at any level to talk about benefit as Trump can veto whatever happens in Congress.