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I haven't eaten any meat since Christmas

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: Descartes
My wife is a vegetarian, so I'm part-time vegetarian. I've also gone without meat for as long as a month.

I think your results are merely placebo at this point. Depending on what you used to eat or what you're eating (i.e. from McDonald's every day to no McDonald's), there's not going to be many physiological effects that early.

That said, I don't know how most vegetarians in America survive. The wife eats Indian/Chinese, and the vegetarian cuisine of India has plenty of protein and flavor (not much tofu). Protein is key to feeling healthy, imo, and your body starts to go almost catatonic after a while without protein. That's how I felt anyway.

In other words:

1) Tofu ftl.
2) Lentils ftw.
3) American style vegetarian cuisine is serious fail for the most part.
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Isn't tofu a good source of protein? 😕
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Yeah, I wasn't implying that it wasn't. I'm merely saying that American vegetarian food tends to rely on tofu too heavily, and the preparations are without a lot of flavor. I think Asian cuisines treat tofu much better and make being a vegetarian much more feasible.

Granted, there are a lot of developments with vegetarian cuisine lately. It's not like it once was, but still presents a major hurdle for most people trying to transition, imo.
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Not to mention the American Tofu is nothing like the fresh Tofu Chinese people eat.
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guys shouldn't eat too much tofu. doesn't it mess with male hormones?

here's one article:
http://www.newscientist.com/ar...-mens-sperm-count.html
 
Originally posted by: Descartes
My wife is a vegetarian, so I'm part-time vegetarian. I've also gone without meat for as long as a month.

I think your results are merely placebo at this point. Depending on what you used to eat or what you're eating (i.e. from McDonald's every day to no McDonald's), there's not going to be many physiological effects that early.

That said, I don't know how most vegetarians in America survive. The wife eats Indian/Chinese, and the vegetarian cuisine of India has plenty of protein and flavor (not much tofu). Protein is key to feeling healthy, imo, and your body starts to go almost catatonic after a while without protein. That's how I felt anyway.

In other words:

1) Tofu ftl.
2) Lentils ftw.
3) American style vegetarian cuisine is serious fail for the most part.
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I believe that's because American vegetarian cuisine is a product of choice not need and is very young. Cuisine from poorer countries (where meat is more expensive than veggies) like India, China, Ethiopia etc has adapted over many years to offer good nutrition (the right proportion of fats, proteins, carbs) and excellent flavour (through a huge variety of spices).

I mean, consider a tofu-burger versus something like a fallafel. The tofu burger is a pretty nasty (IMO) substitute that tries to be something it can't even be, while a fallafel pita is a excellent, tasty, flavourful, complete meal on its own.
 
OP, i give you much credit for going without meat. I know many people that enjoy being vegs.
Personally, I could never do it, nor could I date someone that was, but best of luck to you. :beer:
 
I don't eat tofu or soya, I've never liked how it tastes/feels nor liked the idea of it. I'm consuming a lot of beans and green leaf veggies, and pasta's / grains.

And yes, there is a direct physiological effect this early on. My digestive system is happier than it's ever been before, which is a big reason I've kept with the decision.

I am very surprised by the diversity in the meals I've been eating, as well as the ease of preparation. Living with a 7+ year vegetarian helps also 😉
 
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Descartes
My wife is a vegetarian, so I'm part-time vegetarian. I've also gone without meat for as long as a month.

I think your results are merely placebo at this point. Depending on what you used to eat or what you're eating (i.e. from McDonald's every day to no McDonald's), there's not going to be many physiological effects that early.

That said, I don't know how most vegetarians in America survive. The wife eats Indian/Chinese, and the vegetarian cuisine of India has plenty of protein and flavor (not much tofu). Protein is key to feeling healthy, imo, and your body starts to go almost catatonic after a while without protein. That's how I felt anyway.

In other words:

1) Tofu ftl.
2) Lentils ftw.
3) American style vegetarian cuisine is serious fail for the most part.
Click to expand...


I believe that's because American vegetarian cuisine is a product of choice not need and is very young. Cuisine from poorer countries (where meat is more expensive than veggies) like India, China, Ethiopia etc has adapted over many years to offer good nutrition (the right proportion of fats, proteins, carbs) and excellent flavour (through a huge variety of spices).

I mean, consider a tofu-burger versus something like a fallafel. The tofu burger is a pretty nasty (IMO) substitute that tries to be something it can't even be, while a fallafel pita is a excellent, tasty, flavourful, complete meal on its own.
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Agreed.
 
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Descartes
My wife is a vegetarian, so I'm part-time vegetarian. I've also gone without meat for as long as a month.

I think your results are merely placebo at this point. Depending on what you used to eat or what you're eating (i.e. from McDonald's every day to no McDonald's), there's not going to be many physiological effects that early.

That said, I don't know how most vegetarians in America survive. The wife eats Indian/Chinese, and the vegetarian cuisine of India has plenty of protein and flavor (not much tofu). Protein is key to feeling healthy, imo, and your body starts to go almost catatonic after a while without protein. That's how I felt anyway.

In other words:

1) Tofu ftl.
2) Lentils ftw.
3) American style vegetarian cuisine is serious fail for the most part.
Click to expand...


I believe that's because American vegetarian cuisine is a product of choice not need and is very young. Cuisine from poorer countries (where meat is more expensive than veggies) like India, China, Ethiopia etc has adapted over many years to offer good nutrition (the right proportion of fats, proteins, carbs) and excellent flavour (through a huge variety of spices).

I mean, consider a tofu-burger versus something like a fallafel. The tofu burger is a pretty nasty (IMO) substitute that tries to be something it can't even be, while a fallafel pita is a excellent, tasty, flavourful, complete meal on its own.
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fwiw - you need to try a Boca Spicy Chicken Patty (made out of Soy). I think they taste great. Tofu/Soy can absorb any flavor you want and can be made to have many textures.

Sure, there are a lot of Soy/Tofu products that taste like nothing/crap but they can also taste great. Same goes for Falafels. I consider myself a Falafel connoisseur and Falafel's made of fava beans don't do it for me. Falafel's with chick peas, I love.
 
Originally posted by: purbeast0
my friend who is engaged to a vegetarian has lost a lot of weight since he started dating her and living with her.

and he was already really skinny to begin with.

f-that, we're meant to eat meat, we're carnivores.
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We're omnivores, we can eat either/or. Don't bullshit.
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

fwiw - you need to try a Boca Spicy Chicken Patty (made out of Soy). I think they taste great. Tofu/Soy can absorb any flavor you want and can be made to have many textures.

Sure, there are a lot of Soy/Tofu products that taste like nothing/crap but they can also taste great. Same goes for Falafels. I consider myself a Falafel connoisseur and Falafel's made of fava beans don't do it for me. Falafel's with chick peas, I love.
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For me, I would eat veggie for what they are and not what they pretend to be. Nothing is worse than fake meat. The crap they put into it negates the perceived goodness of vegetarianism.
 
I ate a 22oz Tbone steak a few days before Christmas. It was over 2 inches thick. I cooked it on my skillet and it was fantastic. It was blood red in the middle and warm.

Since then I have eaten 2 delicious ribeyes and 2 fillet mignon steaks. I've probably eaten half a dozen chickens, hundreds of shrimps, and many burgers and pork chops. Also, I've had scallops, beef jerkey, hot dogs (all beef), bratwursts, and turkey. I had some ham too and also various lunch meat. I even had lamb twice since then.

I don't think I qualify as a vegetarian, nor would I ever want to.
I live to eat.

 
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
I ate a 22oz Tbone steak a few days before Christmas. It was over 2 inches thick. I cooked it on my skillet and it was fantastic. It was blood red in the middle and warm.

Since then I have eaten 2 delicious ribeyes and 2 fillet mignon steaks. I've probably eaten half a dozen chickens, hundreds of shrimps, and many burgers and pork chops. Also, I've had scallops, beef jerkey, hot dogs (all beef), bratwursts, and turkey. I had some ham too and also various lunch meat. I even had lamb twice since then.

I don't think I qualify as a vegetarian, nor would I ever want to.
I live to eat.
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I like to say I eat vegetarian 🙂
 
The burgers they served in the chow hall when I was in the military were ~35% soy, and they were decent. I'd buy those patties for lazy dinner nights if I could find them.
 
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

fwiw - you need to try a Boca Spicy Chicken Patty (made out of Soy). I think they taste great. Tofu/Soy can absorb any flavor you want and can be made to have many textures.

Sure, there are a lot of Soy/Tofu products that taste like nothing/crap but they can also taste great. Same goes for Falafels. I consider myself a Falafel connoisseur and Falafel's made of fava beans don't do it for me. Falafel's with chick peas, I love.
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For me, I would eat veggie for what they are and not what they pretend to be. Nothing is worse than fake meat. The crap they put into it negates the perceived goodness of vegetarianism.
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What do you mean by 'crap they put into it'?

I'm close to being fully vegetarian. If you know how to cook, you can make some great tasting food. I also plan to run a couple of marathons this year and continue to lift weights.
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Descartes
My wife is a vegetarian, so I'm part-time vegetarian. I've also gone without meat for as long as a month.

I think your results are merely placebo at this point. Depending on what you used to eat or what you're eating (i.e. from McDonald's every day to no McDonald's), there's not going to be many physiological effects that early.

That said, I don't know how most vegetarians in America survive. The wife eats Indian/Chinese, and the vegetarian cuisine of India has plenty of protein and flavor (not much tofu). Protein is key to feeling healthy, imo, and your body starts to go almost catatonic after a while without protein. That's how I felt anyway.

In other words:

1) Tofu ftl.
2) Lentils ftw.
3) American style vegetarian cuisine is serious fail for the most part.
Click to expand...


I believe that's because American vegetarian cuisine is a product of choice not need and is very young. Cuisine from poorer countries (where meat is more expensive than veggies) like India, China, Ethiopia etc has adapted over many years to offer good nutrition (the right proportion of fats, proteins, carbs) and excellent flavour (through a huge variety of spices).

I mean, consider a tofu-burger versus something like a fallafel. The tofu burger is a pretty nasty (IMO) substitute that tries to be something it can't even be, while a fallafel pita is a excellent, tasty, flavourful, complete meal on its own.
Click to expand...

fwiw - you need to try a Boca Spicy Chicken Patty (made out of Soy). I think they taste great. Tofu/Soy can absorb any flavor you want and can be made to have many textures.

Sure, there are a lot of Soy/Tofu products that taste like nothing/crap but they can also taste great. Same goes for Falafels. I consider myself a Falafel connoisseur and Falafel's made of fava beans don't do it for me. Falafel's with chick peas, I love.
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Oh, I've nothing against tofu itself - a Chinese place around here does a wonderful spicy tofu dish that I like. But when you mash it up and inject it crap in a desperate bid to make it seem meat like, you end up with a pile of crap.
 
Reduced meat with extra fruits/veggies is actually a good thing. You will see your energy level skyrocket compared to other Americans due to our diets. However, that being said, we are omnivores. Act the part. You still should eat SOME meat on occasion...

bacon++ (obligatory)
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

fwiw - you need to try a Boca Spicy Chicken Patty (made out of Soy). I think they taste great. Tofu/Soy can absorb any flavor you want and can be made to have many textures.

Sure, there are a lot of Soy/Tofu products that taste like nothing/crap but they can also taste great. Same goes for Falafels. I consider myself a Falafel connoisseur and Falafel's made of fava beans don't do it for me. Falafel's with chick peas, I love.
Click to expand...

For me, I would eat veggie for what they are and not what they pretend to be. Nothing is worse than fake meat. The crap they put into it negates the perceived goodness of vegetarianism.
Click to expand...

What do you mean by 'crap they put into it'?

I'm close to being fully vegetarian. If you know how to cook, you can make some great tasting food. I also plan to run a couple of marathons this year and continue to lift weights.
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I am talking about the veggie burgers of the world. Eating veggies are good, making something out of vegetable to pretend it is meat is bad.

 
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Martin
I believe that's because American vegetarian cuisine is a product of choice not need and is very young. Cuisine from poorer countries (where meat is more expensive than veggies) like India, China, Ethiopia etc has adapted over many years to offer good nutrition (the right proportion of fats, proteins, carbs) and excellent flavour (through a huge variety of spices).

I mean, consider a tofu-burger versus something like a fallafel. The tofu burger is a pretty nasty (IMO) substitute that tries to be something it can't even be, while a fallafel pita is a excellent, tasty, flavourful, complete meal on its own.
Click to expand...

fwiw - you need to try a Boca Spicy Chicken Patty (made out of Soy). I think they taste great. Tofu/Soy can absorb any flavor you want and can be made to have many textures.

Sure, there are a lot of Soy/Tofu products that taste like nothing/crap but they can also taste great. Same goes for Falafels. I consider myself a Falafel connoisseur and Falafel's made of fava beans don't do it for me. Falafel's with chick peas, I love.
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Oh, I've nothing against tofu itself - a Chinese place around here does a wonderful spicy tofu dish that I like. But when you mash it up and inject it crap in a desperate bid to make it seem meat like, you end up with a pile of crap.
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I suggest trying some of the Boca products. I love the Boca Spicy Chicken patties. And tofu is just mashed up soybeans. I'm guessing the spicy tofu dish absorbed ingredients to make if flavorful b/c you probably would have hated it if it didn't.

Sorry, just giving you a hard time.
 
I love meat in all its forms (bacon, steak, fried chicken, salmon, ribs, chili, etc.), but it's not something I eat everyday or even once a week, for health reasons.
 
jesus, some of you just sound FAT AS HELL. three kinds of meat at once? half a dozen chickens? lamb twice since christmas, many burgers, lol, christmas was like two weeks ago!

i eat lots of both, i've eaten maybe 2 or 3 burgers since christmas, ate spaghetti once or twice, had pizza once.... and i thought i was over-indulging... other than that it was all vegetables..

for the record im 5'10, 195lbs, the fattest i ever was i was ~230lbs, and i ate LOTS of unhealthy crap to get that way... im alot healthier now,
 
started going meat-free on the 1st. ive noticed the same thing, even after just a few days my workouts improved and i felt more energetic.

last night i substituted marinated portabella slices for marinated top sirloin in a dish and it worked out pretty well... though i have to say it woulda been much tastier with the beef.
 
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