yh125d
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no thats what ur ma pays me
no i dont drive my sedan like a family car, but i take 90d corners pretty well going 30mph. my leather seats feel pretty great tho, could u afford those?
Well thats mature :\
no thats what ur ma pays me
no i dont drive my sedan like a family car, but i take 90d corners pretty well going 30mph. my leather seats feel pretty great tho, could u afford those?
your MIL probably didn't ever bring her car in for scheduled maintenance and didn't care much about the car...
single instances don't matter much here, look at the bigger picture... Hondas generally are very very very reliable cars with many users on Anandtech alone (not even a car forum) saying they've run their H's to 200+ miles without a single hiccup.
Honda's are very nice reliable cars, I drive Accord and love it, I brought 2007 model for 13.5K from a old person, the car had 9K miles on it. Now it's at 15K miles and I all I have spent is one oil change which cost me some $20.
I drove a 2000 Accord before this car, it was V6 and I sold it with 119K miles on it. It was becoming too much of a burden to maintain when the fuel prices were high.
I have. Especially Ion owners. The older S-class cars were great, but the engines had a bad habit of eating oil after about 75k-100k miles (not all of them did though); however Ions were sort of hit-and-miss in that you either had one with really obnoxious problems that manifested early on (ignition problems, such as the infamous "car that won't turn off") or you had one that was rock-solid and would last a long time.
So, if you got lucky and had a good Ion that would go for a long time, then you got maybe a 100-200k mile car. You could probably get the same out of an S-class if you could tolerate the oil loss or could find some way to fix it.
If you look at the used Ion market, some of them are starting to sell for a fair amount of money due to the fuel economy on the manuals.
Back to the issue of used Hondas . . . with the newer Hondas, they're valued highly due to the durability of their engines. Some of them get fairly good fuel economy, too. If you go back to the 5th-gen Hondas, fuel economy gets even better if you don't mind dealing with anemic engines. Some tuners/ricers/ecomodders like the 5th gen and earlier Civics because you can get hatchbacks that weigh around 2100 pounds. I still think the values you're seeing on Craigslist and the like are overly-inflated, with old CX and VX Civics going for $3000 and up. There's a guy near me selling a '92 VX with 140k miles for $4k which is ridiculous (Bluebook is $1,535 at the top-end). Even the insurance replacement value of some of those old Civics won't come close to what people want for them used.