I have no HEAT part II...If I'm selling something, would you pay me first ??

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CTrain

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Well, would you ??

And is Heatware overrated ??
I always see people with alot of Heatware have this I'm a somebody attitude when trading.
 
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thelanx

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Ppl with a lot of heatware deserve respect imo because they've proven themselves to be great traders time and again. Many have gone out of their way to make sure a deal goes smooth.
 
rh71

rh71

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long-standing/established members of this forum = heatware +20.
 
amdskip

amdskip

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I would trade with you CTrain.

Heatware is not overrated, I worked hard to get it to this level.
 
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Evadman

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Just because you don't have heatware doesn't mean I am not going to sell to you. However, having heatware makes me more inclined to trust you. however, Heat is not a subsitiue for research.
 
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jlee

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Let's check how many trolls have 100+ heat..and how many have five or less. That should answer the question.. :)
 
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CTrain

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How many Heatwares is enough ??? To a point where you don't need to accumulate anymore ??
 
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Hossenfeffer

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I probably wouldn't pay first, at least if it was more than $10-20.

Heatware is another way to build up a trading community. It would only be overrated in that you can't let it be your only deciding factor. It has a great deal of potential IF people use it correctly.

If you want to build up a few references, buy a couple cheap things from the more experienced traders. That gets you "on the map" as it were and puts your contact info into more hands. In the event that a trade goes south, you've been in contact with these other traders and they can vouch for you, or help get ahold of you.
 
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Yossarian

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Originally posted by: CTrain

I always see people with alot of Heatware have this I'm a somebody attitude when trading.
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I only hear that from n00bs who want your $500 for a laptop when they have no trading history.
 
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lobadobadingdong

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I've got a 20+ thing before I'll pay first or cross trade.

and heatware is definatly not overated. it saved my bacon buying a few times when I first started trading here. (ebay evals are worthless imo too)
 
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DaWhim

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if you are selling with no trading history, you better be a lifer or elite first.
 
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murphy55d

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Originally posted by: DaWhim
if you are selling with no trading history, you better be a lifer or elite first.
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I tend to agree with this.

And 25+ heatware is the level I look for.
 
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Zugzwang152

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Originally posted by: CTrain
Well, would you ??

And is Heatware overrated ??
I always see people with alot of Heatware have this I'm a somebody attitude when trading.
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I have seen this as well, but very rarely. Usually people with a lot of heat because they are nice people, and trustworthy to do business with. I will typically also take the word of an extablished trader in dealing with someone with no heat. for instance, if a new member has an established trader as an IRL buddy who vouches for him.

I consider myself an established trader, although I'm no superstar heat-wise. There are numerous members with a couple hundred or more evals.
 
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poopaskoopa

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I certainly don't think HEAT is worthless, but this you-ship-first sh!t based on the # of evals has always seemed silly to me. That's probably some lunacy conjured up by the seasoned traders who just wanted to create a system that favors them. And to their credit, they have gotten most of the board members to buy into it, so congrats to them. Even if I'm wrong on all this, it'd still remain a pretty stupid idea because everywhere else, you're expected to pay for the merchandise before you can receive it.
 
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FrustratedUser

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Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
I certainly don't think HEAT is worthless, but this you-ship-first sh!t based on the # of evals has always seemed silly to me. That's probably some lunacy conjured up by the seasoned traders who just wanted to create a system that favors them. And to their credit, they have gotten most of the board members to buy into it, so congrats to them. Even if I'm wrong on all this, it'd still remain a pretty stupid idea because everywhere else, you're expected to pay for the merchandise before you can receive it.
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Agreed!
 
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Hossenfeffer

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Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
I certainly don't think HEAT is worthless, but this you-ship-first sh!t based on the # of evals has always seemed silly to me. That's probably some lunacy conjured up by the seasoned traders who just wanted to create a system that favors them. And to their credit, they have gotten most of the board members to buy into it, so congrats to them. Even if I'm wrong on all this, it'd still remain a pretty stupid idea because everywhere else, you're expected to pay for the merchandise before you can receive it.
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It's all a system of trust. As the private trades are an ENTIRELY different thing than purchasing an item at the store, there is some security in knowing you're dealing with someone who will hopefully respect you and trade in a good manner, putting some thought into things like packaging, communication, etc. It's all about making things as smooth as possible and has absolutely nothing to do with "favoriing" the experienced traders.
 
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poopaskoopa

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Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
I certainly don't think HEAT is worthless, but this you-ship-first sh!t based on the # of evals has always seemed silly to me. That's probably some lunacy conjured up by the seasoned traders who just wanted to create a system that favors them. And to their credit, they have gotten most of the board members to buy into it, so congrats to them. Even if I'm wrong on all this, it'd still remain a pretty stupid idea because everywhere else, you're expected to pay for the merchandise before you can receive it.
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It's all a system of trust. As the private trades are an ENTIRELY different thing than purchasing an item at the store, there is some security in knowing you're dealing with someone who will hopefully respect you and trade in a good manner, putting some thought into things like packaging, communication, etc. It's all about making things as smooth as possible and has absolutely nothing to do with "favoriing" the experienced traders.
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It has nothing to do with what? Let me get this straight. So Poopa with his 4 evals wants to sell a mobo, and a longtime trader with his 300 evals tells me that I should ship my stuff first, and he'll inspect, test, and then he'll send his payment. Who's got the transaction running in his favor? Poopa, or the 300 eval guy? If you(or those who agree with you, and I'm sure there's many) don't see things this way, then you might as well put me on your do-not-trade list now because you're never going to receive anything from me until you pay and I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

 
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