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I have graduated with the B.S. in Computer Science...So, can I ask for the raise now?

adlep

adlep

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Last six months I have been working for a large corporation (as a contractor, which sucks) as an IT tech support person. So far my supervisor is very happy about me, I have never heard any complaints. I started working full time while still going full time to school for the last semester. It was a lot of stress and work (I have taken 15 credint hours of advanced CS classes)...
Anyway, do you think that I should ask for a raise?
I mean, I understand the difficult economy but the CS degree should be still worth something...?
I make an OK money considering that it is a challenge to find a job right now ($15.00/hr). But, it would be nice to make more considering the fact that I want to save some money to go to grad school, and I will have to start repaying my undergraduate loans soon (I have about $30,000 in loans)...
Do you think that it is unreasonable to ask for $2.00/hr more?
Edit: When I started school, the average starting salary for Computer Science grads was about $45,000/year, so the fact that I make $32,000/year right now is quite depressing 🙁
 
Well don't specifically ask for a number unless they ask for one, but it's not entirely unreasonable.A lot of companies do that for people once they graduate, so it might not hurt to bring up the subject with your boss. Invite him out to lunch one day and bring it up.
 
No, you can now go work in India for a pay decrease...congratulations!

In all seriousness though your job description is probably worth 15.00 an hour degree or no degree. It's not like you have an internship that becomes a full time position. You have a fulltime position that doesn't depend on your degree that pays 15.00 an hour. They dont' owe you more just because you happen to get a college degree while working there.
 
No, you can now go work in India for a pay decrease...congratulations!
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I know, this policy will backfire soon on us....
We should stop outsourcing hi-tech engineering jobs overseas...
They dont' owe you more just because you happen to get a college degree while working there.
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Yes, this is what I am afraid of too. All of my coworkers either have "some" college or no college education, so it looks like I will have to look for another job, which stinks because I really like my current job...
 
Originally posted by: adlep
No, you can now go work in India for a pay decrease...congratulations!
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I know, this policy will backfire soon on us....
We should stop outsourcing hi-tech engineering jobs overseas...
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You probably would care a great deal less if you weren't in that industry. 😉
 
If it were me I'd go find another job and then bring the offer back and be like I'm graduated now and feel that I should be making market value and that all my hardwork should go to something and I've got another offer for 50k or whatever they offer you. Hell you can even bluff this, but you might rub your employer the wrong way and it's nice to have a backup. I like my current job and like the people I work with so is there any possibility of getting a raise, maybe just 2.00 more because that would be all that would convince me to stay and I know you've been loyal to me all this time.
 
You probably would care a great deal less if you weren't in that industry.
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Well, it seems to me that the well being of any society is dependant on its ability to go technologically forward, so even if you are a historian, you should be able to support my claim 🙂.
Edit: Finding another job is still tough....
+ I have noticed a very bad trend for all of us.
Currently very few companies are willing to hire IT personel directly.
Virtually all of the openings on the maket now are through recruiters who will take about 20 to 40 % 🙂Q) of your salary... I know that my contract house gets paid $50,000/yr for me...🙁
Fvck...
 
Originally posted by: adlep
You probably would care a great deal less if you weren't in that industry.
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Well, it seems to me that the well being of any society is dependant on its ability to go technologically forward, so even if you are a historian, you should be able to support my claim 🙂.
Edit: Finding another job is still tough....
+ I have noticed a very bad trend for all of us.
Currently very few companies are willing to hire IT personel directly.
Virtually all of the openings on the maket now are through recruiters who will take about 20 to 40 % 🙂Q) of your salary... I know that my contract house gets paid $50,000/yr for me...🙁
Fvck...
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It's dependent on your ability to move technologically forward but software engineers and programmers don't necessarily move technology forward. If you're a code monkey or you maintain corporate networks and equipment you're easily replaced and you're not really helping to move technology forward. The people that are creating companies and driving new technology still reside in the US and US companies still sponsor technological innovations but the people that perform the actual dirty work of making it happen reside in foreign countries a lot of times.
 
Yes, you should definitely ask for a raise. Last summer (after my freshman year in college) I made 20/hr.... so you should at least be making that much
 
Originally posted by: cchen
Yes, you should definitely ask for a raise. Last summer (after my freshman year in college) I made 20/hr.... so you should at least be making that much
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Not if that's not what his job is worth and a college degree is not necessary to do the job. If you're working as a grocery bagger and you graduate college are you all of a sudden entitled to 20.00 an hour?
 
Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
Originally posted by: adlep
You probably would care a great deal less if you weren't in that industry.
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Well, it seems to me that the well being of any society is dependant on its ability to go technologically forward, so even if you are a historian, you should be able to support my claim 🙂.
Edit: Finding another job is still tough....
+ I have noticed a very bad trend for all of us.
Currently very few companies are willing to hire IT personel directly.
Virtually all of the openings on the maket now are through recruiters who will take about 20 to 40 % 🙂Q) of your salary... I know that my contract house gets paid $50,000/yr for me...🙁
Fvck...
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It's dependent on your ability to move technologically forward but software engineers and programmers don't necessarily move technology forward. If you're a code monkey or you maintain corporate networks and equipment you're easily replaced and you're not really helping to move technology forward. The people that are creating companies and driving new technology still reside in the US and US companies still sponsor technological innovations but the people that perform the actual dirty work of making it happen reside in foreign countries a lot of times.
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I would say that's fairly accurate. The typical IT technology has been pioneered.

IT isn't some special career that the mid to late 90's made it out to be. It's a standard white/bluish collar job.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
Originally posted by: adlep
You probably would care a great deal less if you weren't in that industry.
Click to expand...
Well, it seems to me that the well being of any society is dependant on its ability to go technologically forward, so even if you are a historian, you should be able to support my claim 🙂.
Edit: Finding another job is still tough....
+ I have noticed a very bad trend for all of us.
Currently very few companies are willing to hire IT personel directly.
Virtually all of the openings on the maket now are through recruiters who will take about 20 to 40 % 🙂Q) of your salary... I know that my contract house gets paid $50,000/yr for me...🙁
Fvck...
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It's dependent on your ability to move technologically forward but software engineers and programmers don't necessarily move technology forward. If you're a code monkey or you maintain corporate networks and equipment you're easily replaced and you're not really helping to move technology forward. The people that are creating companies and driving new technology still reside in the US and US companies still sponsor technological innovations but the people that perform the actual dirty work of making it happen reside in foreign countries a lot of times.
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I would say that's fairly accurate. The typical IT technology has been pioneered.

IT isn't some special career that the mid to late 90's made it out to be. It's a standard white/bluish collar job.
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IT is an amalgam of disparate vocations, so there's no holistic white/blue collar designation. Just as construction encapsulates everyone from the wrecking crew to the engineers, IT encapsulates everyone from the support people to the software architects. It's a broad industry, and its multifaceted nature should not be relegated.

IMO 🙂
 
It's dependent on your ability to move technologically forward but software engineers and programmers don't necessarily move technology forward. If you're a code monkey or you maintain corporate networks and equipment you're easily replaced and you're not really helping to move technology forward. The people that are creating companies and driving new technology still reside in the US and US companies still sponsor technological innovations but the people that perform the actual dirty work of making it happen reside in foreign countries a lot of times.
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I would disagree...
Any kind of IT job is technology related and it helps directly or indirectly move everything forward, just because of its nature...
The help desk personel ensures that employees know and use computers -> threfore they help with raising productivity in organizations.
Just by helping other people to utilize new computing technologies you move technology forward...
?
If you're a code monkey or you maintain corporate networks and equipment you're easily replaced and you're not really helping to move technology forward.
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Not true once again...
Even the best technology will not succeed without being propertly maintained...



 
Originally posted by: adlep
It's dependent on your ability to move technologically forward but software engineers and programmers don't necessarily move technology forward. If you're a code monkey or you maintain corporate networks and equipment you're easily replaced and you're not really helping to move technology forward. The people that are creating companies and driving new technology still reside in the US and US companies still sponsor technological innovations but the people that perform the actual dirty work of making it happen reside in foreign countries a lot of times.
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I would disagree...
Any kind of IT job is technology related and it helps directly or indirectly move everything forward, just because of its nature...
The help desk personel ensures that employees know and use computers -> threfore they help with raising productivity in organizations.
Just by helping other people to utilize new computing technologies you move technology forward...
?
If you're a code monkey or you maintain corporate networks and equipment you're easily replaced and you're not really helping to move technology forward.
Click to expand...
Not true once again...
Even the best technology will not succeed without being propertly maintained...
Click to expand...

Maybe he means not directly responsible for advancement.

In your point of view, everyone is directly responsible, including the Burger King employee who makes your lunch to ensure that you have the food to survive.
 
In your point of view, everyone is directly responsible, including the Burger King employee who makes your lunch to ensure that you have the food to survive
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No, this is not what I am saying...
How does BK relates to IT?
 
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