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scorpmatt

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt

this from the one that tried to argue about amount of voltage vs amps

oh wait you said 1000 A @ 1 V wouldn't hurt... take a neutral line with no voltage on it that's carrying 1000 amps and put yourself in series with it and then tell me. ;)

done it, felt nothing

so, you put yourself in series with 1000 amps, and are typing from heaven?

if you consider my workplace as heaven, then yes. the series had 1000A and 1V, didn't feel anything.
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt

this from the one that tried to argue about amount of voltage vs amps

oh wait you said 1000 A @ 1 V wouldn't hurt... take a neutral line with no voltage on it that's carrying 1000 amps and put yourself in series with it and then tell me. ;)

done it, felt nothing

so, you put yourself in series with 1000 amps, and are typing from heaven?

if you consider my workplace as heaven, then yes. the series had 1000A and 1V, didn't feel anything.

do you know kirchoff's laws?
 

mobobuff

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What sucks is working on in-house telephone lines. Screwing open boxes so your hands get sweaty, and then having to handle all the wires. And I never remember what color is the hot wire... I think green? Getting shocked so many times you think I'dve learned by now.
 

scorpmatt

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt

this from the one that tried to argue about amount of voltage vs amps

oh wait you said 1000 A @ 1 V wouldn't hurt... take a neutral line with no voltage on it that's carrying 1000 amps and put yourself in series with it and then tell me. ;)

done it, felt nothing

so, you put yourself in series with 1000 amps, and are typing from heaven?

if you consider my workplace as heaven, then yes. the series had 1000A and 1V, didn't feel anything.

do you know kirchoff's laws?

not off hand, lemme go get my buddy Google
 

mobobuff

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Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR).
 

scorpmatt

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Originally posted by: mobobuff
Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR). Applying Kirchoff's law:

I read that, still dont get what he is getting at
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: mobobuff
Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR).

the 1st law states why you can't put yourself in series with 1000 amps and survive.
 

scorpmatt

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR).

the 1st law states why you can't put yourself in series with 1000 amps and survive.

it states that as long as the current goes through w/out change, it doesn't break the law. :D
 

mobobuff

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Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR). Applying Kirchoff's law:

I read that, still dont get what he is getting at

Maybe he means you would've had to complete the circuit to feel the effect of 1K amps. *shrug*
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR).

the 1st law states why you can't put yourself in series with 1000 amps and survive.

it states that as long as the current goes through w/out change, it doesn't break the law. :D

the 1000A would have gone through you, and you would have died.

 

scorpmatt

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR).

the 1st law states why you can't put yourself in series with 1000 amps and survive.

it states that as long as the current goes through w/out change, it doesn't break the law. :D

the 1000A would have gone through you, and you would have died.

it did go through me, one way.
 

LS20

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dumbest thing i've ever done... cut into a wire of a floorlamp while it was hooked up (i thought i had pulled the plug)... i was using a pocket knife and it literally blew a hole through the knife

knife
 

mrSHEiK124

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Oh, touching the exposed...coily things in a XBOX PSU while the fvcker is plugged in is NOT a fun experience
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR).

the 1st law states why you can't put yourself in series with 1000 amps and survive.

it states that as long as the current goes through w/out change, it doesn't break the law. :D

the 1000A would have gone through you, and you would have died.

it did go through me, one way.

give me the exact scenario you were in.
 

scorpmatt

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IIRC, isnt it 10000V you hear it, 20000V you feel it, and something well above 20000V you see it?
 

mobobuff

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR).

the 1st law states why you can't put yourself in series with 1000 amps and survive.

it states that as long as the current goes through w/out change, it doesn't break the law. :D

the 1000A would have gone through you, and you would have died.

Wouldn't he have had to make a complete circuit though?

 

scorpmatt

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR).

the 1st law states why you can't put yourself in series with 1000 amps and survive.

it states that as long as the current goes through w/out change, it doesn't break the law. :D

the 1000A would have gone through you, and you would have died.

it did go through me, one way.

give me the exact scenario you were in.

I was placed between two machines. one machine sent out 1000A @ 1V through a wire that I was holding onto, my other hand held another wire hooked to the other machine that recieved 1000A @ 1V.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Eli
There's too many variables.

I can EASILY feel the 10VAC of "leakage" voltage we have on Neutral since this house isn't properly grounded.


You cannot feel 10 volts. A car battery is 12 volts and you don't feel anything when you touch that.
But you will feel the burn if you're holding a wrench between the poles.
THAT is feeling it even if it doesn't meet the definition of "shock".
BTW@, this topic is wayyy a repost.

 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR).

the 1st law states why you can't put yourself in series with 1000 amps and survive.

it states that as long as the current goes through w/out change, it doesn't break the law. :D

the 1000A would have gone through you, and you would have died.

it did go through me, one way.

give me the exact scenario you were in.

I was placed between two machines. one machine sent out 1000A @ 1V through a wire that I was holding onto, my other hand held another wire hooked to the other machine that recieved 1000A @ 1V.

you are either 1) confused or 2) have no idea what you're talking about.
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: LS20
dumbest thing i've ever done... cut into a wire of a floorlamp while it was hooked up (i thought i had pulled the plug)... i was using a pocket knife and it literally blew a hole through the knife

knife

jesus christ, that's insane.
 

scorpmatt

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Kirchoff's 1st Law states that the current flowing into a junction in a circuit (or node) must equal the current flowing out of the junction. This law is a direct consequence of the conservation of charge. Since no charge can be lost in the junction, any charge that flows in must ultimately flow out. Kirchoff's 1st Law can be remembered as the rule that uses nodes to study the flow of current around a circuit.

Kirchoff's 2nd Law states that for any closed loop path around a circuit the sum of the voltage gains and voltage drops equals zero. In the circuit shown, there is a voltage gain for each electron traveling through the voltage source (symbolized by ) and a voltage drop across the resistor ( iR).

the 1st law states why you can't put yourself in series with 1000 amps and survive.

it states that as long as the current goes through w/out change, it doesn't break the law. :D

the 1000A would have gone through you, and you would have died.

it did go through me, one way.

give me the exact scenario you were in.

I was placed between two machines. one machine sent out 1000A @ 1V through a wire that I was holding onto, my other hand held another wire hooked to the other machine that recieved 1000A @ 1V.

you are either 1) confused or 2) have no idea what you're talking about.

i know what im talking about. I was there, it happened. im not going to try and convince you otherwise anymore.