I have an OLD video card...

[Bu B3ar]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: CurseTheSky

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: Barfo
AGP is a money pit, can't you upgrade your CPU and motherboard as well and get a PCI-E card that will be much better than any AGP?

If I'm doing that, I'm building a whole new system, and i dont have $1500 to drop right now. I'm just looking for a cheap extension on my rig until i have the loot to drop on a new build; i know my baby is at the end of her life

Two example builds:

Intel Pentium E3200, Dual Core, 2.4GHz, 1MB L2 Cache - $53
ASRock G31M-S mATX - $44
2GB Corsair DDR2 667 - $30
Sapphire HD 4670, 512MB - $67
Total: $194


Intel Pentium E5200, Dual Core, 2.5Ghz, 2MB L2 Cache - $68
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R - $120
2x2GB Corsair DDR3 667 - $60
Powercolor HD 4850, 512MB - $97
Total: $345

The first build is significantly cheaper, but will also be significantly less powerful. The motherboard has a vanilla ICH7 southbridge, so if you want to get an SSD in the future, you won't be able to enable AHCI for increased performance. The HD 4670 is also significantly slower than the HD 4850. Either way, it will be more powerful than what you're using now.

With either build, you'd need to make sure your power supply is up to the task and has the right connectors (PCI-E, 4 or 8 pin EPS12V, 24 pin main connector, etc.). If not, figure in another $60 or so for a quality 350-500w unit with PCI-E connectors (Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, BFG, and PC Power & Cooling are all good choices; avoid cheap brands which will likely blow up and could damage other components).

Just something to keep in mind.

My laptop is faster than both of these builds.

:roll:

I appreciate the advice, dont get me wrong . I just don't want to run the laptop as my primary setup; it's not a gaming laptop and i dont want to strain it.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: CurseTheSky

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: Barfo
AGP is a money pit, can't you upgrade your CPU and motherboard as well and get a PCI-E card that will be much better than any AGP?

If I'm doing that, I'm building a whole new system, and i dont have $1500 to drop right now. I'm just looking for a cheap extension on my rig until i have the loot to drop on a new build; i know my baby is at the end of her life

Two example builds:

Intel Pentium E3200, Dual Core, 2.4GHz, 1MB L2 Cache - $53
ASRock G31M-S mATX - $44
2GB Corsair DDR2 667 - $30
Sapphire HD 4670, 512MB - $67
Total: $194


Intel Pentium E5200, Dual Core, 2.5Ghz, 2MB L2 Cache - $68
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R - $120
2x2GB Corsair DDR3 667 - $60
Powercolor HD 4850, 512MB - $97
Total: $345

The first build is significantly cheaper, but will also be significantly less powerful. The motherboard has a vanilla ICH7 southbridge, so if you want to get an SSD in the future, you won't be able to enable AHCI for increased performance. The HD 4670 is also significantly slower than the HD 4850. Either way, it will be more powerful than what you're using now.

With either build, you'd need to make sure your power supply is up to the task and has the right connectors (PCI-E, 4 or 8 pin EPS12V, 24 pin main connector, etc.). If not, figure in another $60 or so for a quality 350-500w unit with PCI-E connectors (Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, BFG, and PC Power & Cooling are all good choices; avoid cheap brands which will likely blow up and could damage other components).

Just something to keep in mind.

My laptop is more expensive and subsequently faster than both of these builds.

Fixed

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: CurseTheSky

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: Barfo
AGP is a money pit, can't you upgrade your CPU and motherboard as well and get a PCI-E card that will be much better than any AGP?

If I'm doing that, I'm building a whole new system, and i dont have $1500 to drop right now. I'm just looking for a cheap extension on my rig until i have the loot to drop on a new build; i know my baby is at the end of her life

Two example builds:

Intel Pentium E3200, Dual Core, 2.4GHz, 1MB L2 Cache - $53
ASRock G31M-S mATX - $44
2GB Corsair DDR2 667 - $30
Sapphire HD 4670, 512MB - $67
Total: $194


Intel Pentium E5200, Dual Core, 2.5Ghz, 2MB L2 Cache - $68
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R - $120
2x2GB Corsair DDR3 667 - $60
Powercolor HD 4850, 512MB - $97
Total: $345

The first build is significantly cheaper, but will also be significantly less powerful. The motherboard has a vanilla ICH7 southbridge, so if you want to get an SSD in the future, you won't be able to enable AHCI for increased performance. The HD 4670 is also significantly slower than the HD 4850. Either way, it will be more powerful than what you're using now.

With either build, you'd need to make sure your power supply is up to the task and has the right connectors (PCI-E, 4 or 8 pin EPS12V, 24 pin main connector, etc.). If not, figure in another $60 or so for a quality 350-500w unit with PCI-E connectors (Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, BFG, and PC Power & Cooling are all good choices; avoid cheap brands which will likely blow up and could damage other components).

Just something to keep in mind.

My laptop is faster than both of these builds.

:roll:

I appreciate the advice, dont get me wrong . I just don't want to run the laptop as my primary setup; it's not a gaming laptop and i dont want to strain it.

The nice thing about that Gigabyte board is it will accept faster quad core C2s when you have more money to throw at it. I run a Q9400 on that exact board for my HTPC. I would also recommend getting a 2x2GB kit for 4GB of system memory. It'll cost you like $20 more.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: CurseTheSky

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: Barfo
AGP is a money pit, can't you upgrade your CPU and motherboard as well and get a PCI-E card that will be much better than any AGP?

If I'm doing that, I'm building a whole new system, and i dont have $1500 to drop right now. I'm just looking for a cheap extension on my rig until i have the loot to drop on a new build; i know my baby is at the end of her life

Two example builds:

Intel Pentium E3200, Dual Core, 2.4GHz, 1MB L2 Cache - $53
ASRock G31M-S mATX - $44
2GB Corsair DDR2 667 - $30
Sapphire HD 4670, 512MB - $67
Total: $194


Intel Pentium E5200, Dual Core, 2.5Ghz, 2MB L2 Cache - $68
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R - $120
2x2GB Corsair DDR3 667 - $60
Powercolor HD 4850, 512MB - $97
Total: $345

The first build is significantly cheaper, but will also be significantly less powerful. The motherboard has a vanilla ICH7 southbridge, so if you want to get an SSD in the future, you won't be able to enable AHCI for increased performance. The HD 4670 is also significantly slower than the HD 4850. Either way, it will be more powerful than what you're using now.

With either build, you'd need to make sure your power supply is up to the task and has the right connectors (PCI-E, 4 or 8 pin EPS12V, 24 pin main connector, etc.). If not, figure in another $60 or so for a quality 350-500w unit with PCI-E connectors (Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, BFG, and PC Power & Cooling are all good choices; avoid cheap brands which will likely blow up and could damage other components).

Just something to keep in mind.

My laptop is faster than both of these builds.

:roll:

I appreciate the advice, dont get me wrong . I just don't want to run the laptop as my primary setup; it's not a gaming laptop and i dont want to strain it.

??? If you have a laptop with even approximately equal GPU performance to a desktop 4670 or 4850, then that is hella $$$ AND WAS EXPLICITLY MADE for gaming / 3d workstation duties. Chances are it has a shared-memory IGP or low-end/midrange GPU at best.

Even if you built i7, you could start with a good foundation and gpu for $1k or so. For today's games, either one of the above suggestions would be just fine, and an absolutely immense upgrade over your current setup.

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: CurseTheSky

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: Barfo
AGP is a money pit, can't you upgrade your CPU and motherboard as well and get a PCI-E card that will be much better than any AGP?

If I'm doing that, I'm building a whole new system, and i dont have $1500 to drop right now. I'm just looking for a cheap extension on my rig until i have the loot to drop on a new build; i know my baby is at the end of her life

Two example builds:

Intel Pentium E3200, Dual Core, 2.4GHz, 1MB L2 Cache - $53
ASRock G31M-S mATX - $44
2GB Corsair DDR2 667 - $30
Sapphire HD 4670, 512MB - $67
Total: $194


Intel Pentium E5200, Dual Core, 2.5Ghz, 2MB L2 Cache - $68
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R - $120
2x2GB Corsair DDR3 667 - $60
Powercolor HD 4850, 512MB - $97
Total: $345

The first build is significantly cheaper, but will also be significantly less powerful. The motherboard has a vanilla ICH7 southbridge, so if you want to get an SSD in the future, you won't be able to enable AHCI for increased performance. The HD 4670 is also significantly slower than the HD 4850. Either way, it will be more powerful than what you're using now.

With either build, you'd need to make sure your power supply is up to the task and has the right connectors (PCI-E, 4 or 8 pin EPS12V, 24 pin main connector, etc.). If not, figure in another $60 or so for a quality 350-500w unit with PCI-E connectors (Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, BFG, and PC Power & Cooling are all good choices; avoid cheap brands which will likely blow up and could damage other components).

Just something to keep in mind.

My laptop is faster than both of these builds.

So you have a $1800-2000 gaming laptop, but won't spend $200-$300 on a major upgrade to keep you going well for another 3 years or so? We can't help people that don't want to be helped!

 

[Bu B3ar]

Originally posted by: yh125d

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: CurseTheSky

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: Barfo
AGP is a money pit, can't you upgrade your CPU and motherboard as well and get a PCI-E card that will be much better than any AGP?

If I'm doing that, I'm building a whole new system, and i dont have $1500 to drop right now. I'm just looking for a cheap extension on my rig until i have the loot to drop on a new build; i know my baby is at the end of her life

Two example builds:

Intel Pentium E3200, Dual Core, 2.4GHz, 1MB L2 Cache - $53
ASRock G31M-S mATX - $44
2GB Corsair DDR2 667 - $30
Sapphire HD 4670, 512MB - $67
Total: $194


Intel Pentium E5200, Dual Core, 2.5Ghz, 2MB L2 Cache - $68
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R - $120
2x2GB Corsair DDR3 667 - $60
Powercolor HD 4850, 512MB - $97
Total: $345

The first build is significantly cheaper, but will also be significantly less powerful. The motherboard has a vanilla ICH7 southbridge, so if you want to get an SSD in the future, you won't be able to enable AHCI for increased performance. The HD 4670 is also significantly slower than the HD 4850. Either way, it will be more powerful than what you're using now.

With either build, you'd need to make sure your power supply is up to the task and has the right connectors (PCI-E, 4 or 8 pin EPS12V, 24 pin main connector, etc.). If not, figure in another $60 or so for a quality 350-500w unit with PCI-E connectors (Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, BFG, and PC Power & Cooling are all good choices; avoid cheap brands which will likely blow up and could damage other components).

Just something to keep in mind.

My laptop is faster than both of these builds.

So you have a $1800-2000 gaming laptop, but won't spend $200-$300 on a major upgrade to keep you going well for another 3 years or so? We can't help people that don't want to be helped!

no, i have a $700 dollar laptop that happened to be an awesome deal. i do want to be help, and i have recieved lots of it! and am very appreciative!

 

[Rezist]

To get a mobile version of a card that would beat the 4850 would be like 300$ alone.
I think someone lied to you about your laptop even stolen wouldn't be that cheap.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Rezist
To get a mobile version of a card that would beat the 4850 would be like 300$ alone.
I think someone lied to you about your laptop even stolen wouldn't be that cheap.

This is the only mobile GPU I know that can approximately equal a desktop 4850 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16834220576

GTX 260M w/1GB DDR3. Obviously the clocks are lower than desktop GTX 260, so the 4850 may well outdo it.

That's a $1400 notebook. The OP is seriously deluded about mobile GPU performance if he thinks a $700 notebook will be in the same universe of performance as a 4850.

*maybe* if it was stolen / resold cheap.

 

[zebrax2]

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: CurseTheSky

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar

Originally posted by: Barfo
AGP is a money pit, can't you upgrade your CPU and motherboard as well and get a PCI-E card that will be much better than any AGP?

If I'm doing that, I'm building a whole new system, and i dont have $1500 to drop right now. I'm just looking for a cheap extension on my rig until i have the loot to drop on a new build; i know my baby is at the end of her life

Two example builds:

Intel Pentium E3200, Dual Core, 2.4GHz, 1MB L2 Cache - $53
ASRock G31M-S mATX - $44
2GB Corsair DDR2 667 - $30
Sapphire HD 4670, 512MB - $67
Total: $194


Intel Pentium E5200, Dual Core, 2.5Ghz, 2MB L2 Cache - $68
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R - $120
2x2GB Corsair DDR3 667 - $60
Powercolor HD 4850, 512MB - $97
Total: $345

The first build is significantly cheaper, but will also be significantly less powerful. The motherboard has a vanilla ICH7 southbridge, so if you want to get an SSD in the future, you won't be able to enable AHCI for increased performance. The HD 4670 is also significantly slower than the HD 4850. Either way, it will be more powerful than what you're using now.

With either build, you'd need to make sure your power supply is up to the task and has the right connectors (PCI-E, 4 or 8 pin EPS12V, 24 pin main connector, etc.). If not, figure in another $60 or so for a quality 350-500w unit with PCI-E connectors (Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, BFG, and PC Power & Cooling are all good choices; avoid cheap brands which will likely blow up and could damage other components).

Just something to keep in mind.

My laptop is faster than both of these builds.

:roll:

I appreciate the advice, dont get me wrong . I just don't want to run the laptop as my primary setup; it's not a gaming laptop and i dont want to strain it.

If your laptop is more powerful than the rig posted above I'm pretty sure it is a gaming/workstation laptop

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Rezist
To get a mobile version of a card that would beat the 4850 would be like 300$ alone.
I think someone lied to you about your laptop even stolen wouldn't be that cheap.

This is the only mobile GPU I know that can approximately equal a desktop 4850 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16834220576

GTX 260M w/1GB DDR3. Obviously the clocks are lower than desktop GTX 260, so the 4850 may well outdo it.

That's a $1400 notebook. The OP is seriously deluded about mobile GPU performance if he thinks a $700 notebook will be in the same universe of performance as a 4850.

*maybe* if it was stolen / resold cheap.

yeah the gtx260m is no where near as fast as the desktop gtx260. it only has 112sp and 256bit compared to the 216sp and 448bit for the desktop version. it really has nothing in common with the gtx260 desktop version and is in fact just a g92 based gpu.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Can the TC just post a DxDiag report of his laptop, and let people know how much money he actually has on hand for a build so the people who are trying to help him can actually help him?

 

[MODEL3]

Originally posted by: Bu B3ar
My rig was built 5 years ago, and everything in it has been replaced except for the processor and vid card:
-2.4 ghz AMD 64
-AGP Radeon 9550 (bad news bears :frown
-2 gig DDR2
-460w power supply
-500gig and 120gig hd
-MoBo is 2.5 years old, can't remember what it is off the top of my head though

So your mobo is 2.5 years old (Q1 2007) and it has DDR2 support and it has an AGP slot?

Anyway maybe you had a nForce 3 250 based one like some ASRock models (AM2) that i remember.

If your CPU is AM2 you can get an ECS A780GM-M3 AM2 mobo around 50$ (it doesn't make a lot of sense, but anyway)

IGP is around 4X faster than 9550 in games. (not exactly usefull)
Plus UVD1 for movies.
Plus all the other 780G goodies.

And later (for example in one year from now) you can upgrade your CPU and VGA with a current model.