I have an idea how other dimensions and aliens could exist....

[Jaepheth]

Do not judge the message by the messenger.

You think I'm a Hindu Nazi, don't you?

I can disagree and agree with you a thousand ways on this any day.

But that's not the point here in this thread, my dear.

You agree Godel's is speaking the truth and by extension of his theorem, my hypothesis is true?

I don't think anyone here believes you're a Hindu Nazi...

Delusional Sophist on the other hand...


Look, you can't take any math theorem you want and apply it to the real world. Otherwise, I could solve world hunger with a melon and a sharp enough knife thanks to the Banach-Tarski paradox. Rigorous math theorems are based on concrete assumptions that are all known and well defined. Our understanding of the real world is based on hypothesis derived from observational data. It would be faulty to use these hypothesis the same way a mathematician uses axioms and then to use the results as any sort of absolute truth.

Also, I don't think you actually posed any sort of hypothesis. You just said you think the universe is bigger than we can observe (which light cones are sufficient proof of this) and then linked to an article whose only relation to your claim was that they sort of both deal with what we can and can't "know". In other words, unless you care to propose an experiment by which we can test your hypothesis; you're essentially just espousing an opinion that has no actual bearing on anyone's life in any way except to take up space on an internet forum. Space that would be better put to use storing pictures of an irreverent or lascivious nature.

 

[WelshBloke]

It is a rigid mathematical proof. Not airy philosophical stuff.

Its still probably complete bollocks though.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I have an idea on how they could exist too. If my room was everything that could be learned, the cumulative human knowledge wouldn't even make a speck of dust stuck in my computer's exhaust fan. We don't know shit about anything, and are trying to piece things together as we can. Our efforts up to this point will look like a bad joke in a couple thousand years after more of what makes the (multi)universe tick gets revealed.

Then you have to at least accept the fact that God could exist outside of our box of understanding?

 

[Scotteq]

Do not judge the message by the messenger.

You think I'm a Hindu Nazi, don't you?

I can disagree and agree with you a thousand ways on this any day.

But that's not the point here in this thread, my dear.

You agree Godel's is speaking the truth and by extension of his theorem, my hypothesis is true?

I never said you were wrong, nor did I say Godel was wrong.

Rather, you misinterpreted a (humorous, if you understand the reference) comment aimed at another poster, and decided to attack me for it.

I was, however, wrong about one aspect: The phrase "Hindu Nazi" gives you too much credit. Thankfully, though, my conclusion from the other thread still stands.

 

[Braznor]

I never said you were wrong, nor did I say Godel was wrong.

Rather, you misinterpreted a (humorous, if you understand the reference) comment aimed at another poster, and decided to attack me for it.

I was, however, wrong about one aspect: The phrase "Hindu Nazi" gives you too much credit. Thankfully, though, my conclusion from the other thread still stands.

What you think Nazi's are superior to me?

Nothing is superior to me, Ha ha ha, you stupid human!

 

[WelshBloke]

Then you have to at least accept the fact that God could exist outside of our box of understanding?

Wat?

Your claim for the possible existence of god is a bit desperate no?

 

[Braznor]

Wat?

Your claim for the possible existence of god is a bit desperate no?

I, myself as the OP of this thread claimed only that there is a greater reality outside our own universe.

 

[WelshBloke]

I, myself as the OP of this thread claimed only that there is a greater reality outside our own universe.

I claim that kebabs always taste better after about 8 pints.

 

[Braznor]

I claim that kebabs always taste better after about 8 pints.

Does not mean you eat your kebabs and fart them outside this universe?

 

[WelshBloke]

Does not mean you eat your kebabs and fart them outside this universe?

I think my wife wishes this was true. :$

 

[lxskllr]

Then you have to at least accept the fact that God could exist outside of our box of understanding?

I'm an apatheist. I'm open to anything with supporting evidence. Pure speculation is worthless outside of personal entertainment.

 

[Braznor]

I'm an apatheist. I'm open to anything with supporting evidence. Pure speculation is worthless outside of personal entertainment.

What do you think of my supposition?

 

[lxskllr]

What do you think of my supposition?

I think you're jumping to conclusions based solely on an unprovable thought experiment, and linguistic tricks. I think there's more than one universe but I base that on what "feels" right. That of course has no basis in reality, but there's somewhat recent evidence to support that idea.

Imo, it's WAY too early to even speculate on how things are put together. I think the space surrounding us is much more amazing than we think it is, and time will reveal what's out there. Right now, we're peering into space the same way my cats look out the window. The house encompasses their whole world, and the yard surrounding the house is their universe. Their minds would be blown if they knew what was really out there. We're like my cats.