I have a question about Mathew Lesko... (thanks BigJohnKC)

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Linflas

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
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My position is far from anarchy. It is libertarian. My position HAS a government that exists to protect individual rights.

Please, get it right.

policing is redistributive wealth. some are going to benefit more than they pay, some are going to benefit less.

OK, now you are reaching... and hard.
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not at all. take and economics course. educate yourself. but oh, i forgot, then someone would be trying to push their doctrine on you.
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LMAO you can find an economics course to back almost any economic theory you care to espouse. If I wanted to revisit my economic courses I would choose one taught by Walter Williams. I guarantee you he does not agree with your theory of "policing is redistributive wealth".
 

ElFenix

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so you're telling me that people benefit exactly with what they pay in from policing action?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
so you're telling me that people benefit exactly with what they pay in from policing action?

When their rights under the law are equal, yes, they do.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Amused
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so you're telling me that people benefit exactly with what they pay in from policing action?

When their rights under the law are equal, yes, they do.

bill gates pays more in taxes than i do, so i assume more $$ of his go to funding it than mine.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
so you're telling me that people benefit exactly with what they pay in from policing action?

When their rights under the law are equal, yes, they do.

bill gates pays more in taxes than i do, so i assume more $$ of his go to funding it than mine.

Which is why a tiered income tax system is inherently unfair. With a use tax, instead of an income tax, people would pay for what they benefit from.

Sort of like gasoline taxes that fund roads... with exemptions for gasoline bought for off road purposes.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
so you're telling me that people benefit exactly with what they pay in from policing action?

When their rights under the law are equal, yes, they do.

bill gates pays more in taxes than i do, so i assume more $$ of his go to funding it than mine.

Of course, Bill Gates has a higher income than you do so under a fair tax system he would obviously pay more than you do. By fair I mean that we determine the rate of taxation to fund constitutional government functions and apply that rate equally irregardless of income. Of course a large majority of the population has now been brainwashed to accept that discriminating based on ability to earn wealth is somehow more noble than all the other forms of discimination that we find to be abhorent.
 

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
so you're telling me that people benefit exactly with what they pay in from policing action?

When their rights under the law are equal, yes, they do.

bill gates pays more in taxes than i do, so i assume more $$ of his go to funding it than mine.

Of course, Bill Gates has a higher income than you do so under a fair tax system he would obviously pay more than you do. By fair I mean that we determine the rate of taxation to fund constitutional government functions and apply that rate equally irregardless of income. Of course a large majority of the population has now been brainwashed to accept that discriminating based on ability to earn wealth is somehow more noble than all the other forms of discimination that we find to be abhorent.
a completely flat tax rate still wouldn't be able to get it exact for everyone. some people would still benefit more than others for each program. a head tax wouldn't do it either because obviously things like enforcement of contracts are benefiting him and his business more some hippy sitting in zilker park all day. its impossible to figure out everyone's benefit, so it would be impossible to tax in accordance with that. so theres going to be some redistribution.