I have a GTX 770 4 GB right now would going to Sapphire Fury be a worthwhile upgrade?

[Madpacket]

In 12-24 months, a Fury card with 4GB will probably be worth around 120 to 150 USD.. A GTX 1070 should be worth at least $300 for an AiB version, especially if you keep the box and all the assortments.



Kind of funny how you insinuate that games that utilize 8GB of VRAM are crappy ports. VRAM's primary benefit (other than buffering graphics data) is to act as a cache and reduce texture swapping. As such, it's in the games best interest to use as much VRAM as possible, regardless of whether it needs it or not.


You can add higher resale value to that list, superior overclocking potential, shadowplay, ansel etcetera...



DPC latency was an issue post launch, but has been fully rectified via via drivers for a while now. That's why nobody talks about it anymore..

I think you misunderstood my comment about the VRAM usage. I'm mainly talking about the small handful of games that suffer from a lack of VRAM are generally bad games or bad ports. Here are few examples.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/assassins-creed-unity
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mirrors-edge-catalyst

Caching on VRAM itself is nice if you have the extra space but it makes no difference in actual performance when the developer accounts for the amount of VRAM, it just changes how asset data is stored and retrieved.

Fury and Fury X's will likely be worth more than $120 - $150 and 1070's will likely be worth less than $300. Just a guess but the spread will probably be closer to $75 - $100 between the cards. Higher priced cards generally lose more value over shorter period of time.

DPC latency isn't fixed for everyone so I disagree that it's fully rectified. People are still running into the issue regardless of newer drivers. Again it's highly system dependent and probably wouldn't affect the OP if he bought a 1070 but it's something to be aware of as there's a small chance it could affect him.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/.../gtx-1080-high-dpc-latency-and-stuttering/75/

 

[Carfax83]

I'll be blown away if you can reguarly find Fury's for less than $150 in 12 months. Honestly with the performance they offer right now I don't see them dropping much if any below $200 over the next 9-12 months. Just look how much 290Xs sell for...those are 3+ year old cards.

In 1-2 years, we'll have a new console with more memory, so 4GB will likely be obsolete unless someone wants to use lower quality textures than what is in the Xbox Scorpio.

 

[Thinker_145]

How is $350 1070 vs $250 refurb fury even an argument? Am I missing something? Max OC vs max OC the 1070 is 40% faster at 1080p with 100% more VRAM and is only 40% more expensive. I mean the OP even says he can get a 1070 for $350. The thread shouldn't have even progressed that far but that should have been the end of it. Are people here really that desperate to sell AMD GPUs to unsuspected buyers??

Talking about resale value well again the facts are totally ignored. The GTX 1070 will still have 18 months warranty left after 18 months of use so there is no way it loses more value even in pure $ in 18 months than a $250 refurb fury with 90 days warranty. If you have experience selling products you would know how much easier it is to sell products with official warranty rather than just seller goodwill.

Now let's move on to another factor here. I sold Gears of War 4 to a friend for $45, if you know someone trustworthy who wants to buy the game then that's an easy price to get if not you can still easily get $30 for it. If you want to play the game on day 1 then you save $60. If you don't care about the game you still save $30 minimum.

The 2500k @ 4.5Ghz is a good enough CPU for the next couple of years. The part about 1070 being overkill at 1080p60hz is complete FUD. If you really do utterly destroy a game then supersampling anti-aliasing is a glorious option which requires tons of "overkill" hardware to pull off. I had even forgotten just how good it is not having had such powerful hardware for the last few years. But you know you will do good to pull off 4xMSAA in the latest games at ultra settings so ya complete FUD.

A brand new $250 Fury is not as good value as a $350 1070 without a free game so this thread is just a joke. I thought this forum was about real good advise but the AMD agenda I see in every GPU recommendation thread is frankly disgusting and really diminishes the value of this forum.

PS: I also have another glorious fact for you guys. Max OC 1060 = max OC fury at 1080p but of course you get 50% more vram with 1060 and full warranty. The fury and fury X have practically no OC a fact very conveniently ignored by all the relevant people. Comparing them to reference Nvidia cards to calculate price/perf is an absolute travesty. At the very minimum if you want to compare only "out of the box" performance then compare them to AIB cards!

 

[Carfax83]

I think you misunderstood my comment about the VRAM usage. I'm mainly talking about the small handful of games that suffer from a lack of VRAM are generally bad games or bad ports. Here are few examples.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/assassins-creed-unity
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mirrors-edge-catalyst

ACU was a very large and dense game, so high VRAM usage was justified. However, as it suffered from bad memory handling programming in general, I don't know if it would fit the ideal of a VRAM guzzler. MEC only uses a lot of VRAM with hyper settings. There's no such thing as a free lunch, so why you would expect to use higher quality textures and settings on GPUs with low amounts of VRAM and think that it wouldn't negatively affect your performance is beyond me

Deus Ex MD uses more VRAM than any other game I've played, but when you look at the density of the game, it's hard to claim that the high VRAM necessity is due to being a bad port. The game even warns you that using ultra quality textures requires more than 4GB of VRAM..

Caching on VRAM itself is nice if you have the extra space but it makes no difference in actual performance when the developer accounts for the amount of VRAM, it just changes how asset data is stored and retrieved.

There are many factors involved in whether VRAM caching affects performance. Factors like what type of game it is, what engine it uses etcetera.. Open world games for instance are more likely to benefit from VRAM caching than linear games. Ditto for racing games.. A well designed engine will always try to cache as much graphics data as possible in VRAM to prevent trips to system RAM. Whether this has a noticeable performance impact or not doesn't really matter in that regard, because it's just good programming practice..

Fury and Fury X's will likely be worth more than $120 - $150 and 1070's will likely be worth less than $300. Just a guess but the spread will probably be closer to $75 - $100 between the cards. Higher priced cards generally lose more value over shorter period of time.

Thing is, we are getting newer consoles within the next 24 months, so GPUs with 4GB of VRAM are likely going to be facing obsolescence much like GPUs with 2GB of VRAM did when the PS4 and Xbox One came about.. When the next gen consoles hit, 8GB will likely be the minimum you need to enjoy the same, or better texture quality as the consoles.

DPC latency isn't fixed for everyone so I disagree that it's fully rectified. People are still running into the issue regardless of newer drivers. Again it's highly system dependent and probably wouldn't affect the OP if he bought a 1070 but it's something to be aware of as there's a small chance it could affect him.

I guess I'm not really surprised that some people still have DPC latency issues. DPC latency problems can be tricky to solve. It may not necessarily even be the GPU drivers that's causing it, but some other driver that's causing a conflict with the GPU driver. That's why I always tell people to make sure all of their drivers are up to date, and their UEFI as well.

 

[kawi6rr]

In 12-24 months, a Fury card with 4GB will probably be worth around 120 to 150 USD.. A GTX 1070 should be worth at least $300 for an AiB version, especially if you keep the box and all the assortments.

So basically you have no idea but you like to spit out nonsense to try to prove your point. Unless you have a link proving what a Fury will be worth that post above is worthless.