don't get me wrong the gigabyte is a nice board, probably overclocks very well, but the realtek audio solutions have some known issues. especially with quality in 3d sounds for games (EAX)..
I think I am going to go with the two mushkin 1.8v. I'll get two two's, so I get 4gigs. 
I still can't decide on a monitor. I think I'll have to research that more thoroughly before I do.
Motherboard. ...Ack... I am so up in the air about that right now I just have no idea. It has to overclock and it has to be powerful. If I am getting rid of the sound card, then the motherboard has to have good on board sound, like what you recommend, 8steve8.
Any help with any of these issues is greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.
I still can't decide on a monitor. I think I'll have to research that more thoroughly before I do.
Motherboard. ...Ack... I am so up in the air about that right now I just have no idea. It has to overclock and it has to be powerful. If I am getting rid of the sound card, then the motherboard has to have good on board sound, like what you recommend, 8steve8.
Any help with any of these issues is greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.
decent onboard sound and lan... and 8phase power with good overclocking options... bonus of wifi..
all in all a good compromise...
all in all a good compromise...
How about this monitor?
How about this RAM? I think it looks fine, no?
Also, I am not going to change motherboards and drop that sound card until I get empirical data saying that they, the audio card and the sound system, will not cooperate together. ;-) I have to be extremely nit-picky when it comes to this, and I am going to be.
That audio card, even though I have a godly processor, -will- reduce the amount of thinking my CPU has to do. That's the audio card's job; just like a graphic card's job.
What other issues are there now? I'm trying my best to perfect this, but it's a long tedious process for sure! ;-D
Thanks for the assistance, I really appreciate it! :-D
How about this RAM? I think it looks fine, no?
Also, I am not going to change motherboards and drop that sound card until I get empirical data saying that they, the audio card and the sound system, will not cooperate together. ;-) I have to be extremely nit-picky when it comes to this, and I am going to be.
That audio card, even though I have a godly processor, -will- reduce the amount of thinking my CPU has to do. That's the audio card's job; just like a graphic card's job.
What other issues are there now? I'm trying my best to perfect this, but it's a long tedious process for sure! ;-D
Thanks for the assistance, I really appreciate it! :-D
the ram is not as good as the mushkin i linked you to.
the monitor might be ok, cirtainly not perfect... but none in that pricerange are.
no one is saying the audio card doesnt work with the speakers...
I am saying dont buy the audio card... use the onboard audio which is free, with a digital connection to the speakers... if you are unhappy with that... then think about the $180 audio card...
i bet you'll be happy though.
the audio card *should* reduce the overhead of sound processing from your cpu... but we are talking a few percent on a single core cpu... and you have a quad... 90% of the time 3 of the cores will be idle... 95% of the time 2 of the cores will be idle... .. in short you will have so much unused processing power with the other cores that it wont matter if you have onboard or not... except you'll save $180+cables+extra electricity/heat ...
the monitor might be ok, cirtainly not perfect... but none in that pricerange are.
no one is saying the audio card doesnt work with the speakers...
I am saying dont buy the audio card... use the onboard audio which is free, with a digital connection to the speakers... if you are unhappy with that... then think about the $180 audio card...
i bet you'll be happy though.
the audio card *should* reduce the overhead of sound processing from your cpu... but we are talking a few percent on a single core cpu... and you have a quad... 90% of the time 3 of the cores will be idle... 95% of the time 2 of the cores will be idle... .. in short you will have so much unused processing power with the other cores that it wont matter if you have onboard or not... except you'll save $180+cables+extra electricity/heat ...
8steve8: have you even used Vista 64-bit? Do you realize its a big pain in the ass and with no performance benefits? I'm not talking out of an spec/feature sheet, I'm saying because I've used Vista 64-bit on my Mac Pro and it really was just horrible, drivers are hard to find for some stuff, those that you do find are not as good as their 32-bit versions and if you do manage to find a 64-bit app (and most 64 you'll realize it runs at the same speed (no, scratch that, it actually runs worse because of lousier hardware driver support) as the 32-bit version. There are almost NO 64-bit apps available, most are just compatible with 64 bit OSes (but are not native 64-bit) or have extensions (which one would think make them faster but they don't). In any case, this is a gaming machine and games are GPU-bound, the benefits of 64-bit bring nothing to games right now and the inability to load unsigned drivers is actually a disadvantage. No more tweaked driver packs from NGOHQ, Omega or others, just bloated Forceware and Catalyst.
I really think Vista 32-bit is the way to go, the performance benefits are just not there and there is a bunch of hardware and software incompatibility currently. Not even OSX is a true 64-bit OS, we don't need 64-bit just yet. And what applications are coming out compiled for 64-bit? Please avoid listing apps that WORK with the OS or apps that only have a few 64-bit extensions, I want true completely native 64-bit apps. I know game developers aren't going to do that because they will be alienating most of their userbase and games are GPU-bound not CPU-bound and for GPUs, 64-bit brings nothing but disadvantages and more driver work for ATI/NVIDIA and consequently poorer quality drivers for the end user, oh, and we can't fix the situation with third party drivers because yeah... 64-bit Vista doesn't allow you to load unsigned drivers.
If you want to avoid a bunch of issues just go with 32-bit, if the advantage of 64-bit ever become greater, which won't happen for several years still, you can just upgrade and you'd have lived those years with a perfectly functional, compatible and speedy 32-bit version of Vista. And 8steve8, I really hope you have used the 64-bit version of Vista, otherwise, what the hell are you talking about?
Also, when you buy Vista, you bet both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions but you only get the discs for the version you decide, all I'm saying is he should install 32-bit NOW, order the 64-bit discs from Microsoft (free of charge they only charge you for shipping and handling) and have them ready for when 64-bit is the way to go. Best of both worlds.
And if you think quad processors are idle 90% of the time then you should take a look at the CPU usage on my Mac Pro (on both Windows and OSX)... you'd be surprised. Heck, you should look at CPU usage in my MacBook Pro if you think 90% only one core will be active.
Netu, as for the monitor, if you want a good 20" then prepare to spend around $500, otherwise just stick with the Acers, input lag on those models is not as bad as 8steve8 would make you believe and if you are not experience with LCDs, the image will look great to you, especially for the price. But then again, 8steve8 would make you believe many other things.
I really think Vista 32-bit is the way to go, the performance benefits are just not there and there is a bunch of hardware and software incompatibility currently. Not even OSX is a true 64-bit OS, we don't need 64-bit just yet. And what applications are coming out compiled for 64-bit? Please avoid listing apps that WORK with the OS or apps that only have a few 64-bit extensions, I want true completely native 64-bit apps. I know game developers aren't going to do that because they will be alienating most of their userbase and games are GPU-bound not CPU-bound and for GPUs, 64-bit brings nothing but disadvantages and more driver work for ATI/NVIDIA and consequently poorer quality drivers for the end user, oh, and we can't fix the situation with third party drivers because yeah... 64-bit Vista doesn't allow you to load unsigned drivers.
If you want to avoid a bunch of issues just go with 32-bit, if the advantage of 64-bit ever become greater, which won't happen for several years still, you can just upgrade and you'd have lived those years with a perfectly functional, compatible and speedy 32-bit version of Vista. And 8steve8, I really hope you have used the 64-bit version of Vista, otherwise, what the hell are you talking about?
Also, when you buy Vista, you bet both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions but you only get the discs for the version you decide, all I'm saying is he should install 32-bit NOW, order the 64-bit discs from Microsoft (free of charge they only charge you for shipping and handling) and have them ready for when 64-bit is the way to go. Best of both worlds.
And if you think quad processors are idle 90% of the time then you should take a look at the CPU usage on my Mac Pro (on both Windows and OSX)... you'd be surprised. Heck, you should look at CPU usage in my MacBook Pro if you think 90% only one core will be active.
Netu, as for the monitor, if you want a good 20" then prepare to spend around $500, otherwise just stick with the Acers, input lag on those models is not as bad as 8steve8 would make you believe and if you are not experience with LCDs, the image will look great to you, especially for the price. But then again, 8steve8 would make you believe many other things.
@Piuc2020: As always, thanks for the input! I completely agree with you regarding Vista. Right now it's just much smarter to with 32-bit.
What about the other things 8steve8 has said though, everyone? I would like other viewpoints as well.
Such as, is 4gigs of RAM necessary? Should I get this RAM?
Should I not get the audio card and instead just use onboard? If I do, which motherboard should I use? The Gigabyte motherboard I was recommended earlier really is top of the line...I don't see a reason to -not- get it.
More or less, can anyone be an arbiter to the situation? There are many issues and I am inclined to just take whatever is said as truth; even if I do my research, I still find current opinions of helpful people to be wiser than a magazine article, etc. ;-P
Also, I am willing to put more money into a monitor if necessary. It will indeed be my first real LCD that I have experienced, but that doesn't mean I want a lack of quality. ;-B I most definitely will go for higher quality benign the price.
One final issue: Is the Samsung hard drive truly better than what I have currently listed?
As always, any input is greatly appreciated. Check the first page or page 5 for the current list of my machine. I am willing to change a lot, if necessary.
Thanks again guys, and keep up the great discussion. :-D
P.S. BIG EDIT: Someone on another forum posted this as their best build with a $2500 budget. What do you guys think? Anything from there about his ideas that I should use as my own? Dual 8800s, anyone? I like that screen he recommended for two reasons: 1) I was looking at it earlier and liked it and 2) It's a 22" for the price of a 20". However, does it have the specs I need as a gamer? He literally changed my entire system, more or less, but maybe we can learn from him. Any input and otherwise is greatly appreciated. Just remember to be civil.
What about the other things 8steve8 has said though, everyone? I would like other viewpoints as well.
Such as, is 4gigs of RAM necessary? Should I get this RAM?
Should I not get the audio card and instead just use onboard? If I do, which motherboard should I use? The Gigabyte motherboard I was recommended earlier really is top of the line...I don't see a reason to -not- get it.
More or less, can anyone be an arbiter to the situation? There are many issues and I am inclined to just take whatever is said as truth; even if I do my research, I still find current opinions of helpful people to be wiser than a magazine article, etc. ;-P
Also, I am willing to put more money into a monitor if necessary. It will indeed be my first real LCD that I have experienced, but that doesn't mean I want a lack of quality. ;-B I most definitely will go for higher quality benign the price.
One final issue: Is the Samsung hard drive truly better than what I have currently listed?
As always, any input is greatly appreciated. Check the first page or page 5 for the current list of my machine. I am willing to change a lot, if necessary.
Thanks again guys, and keep up the great discussion. :-D
P.S. BIG EDIT: Someone on another forum posted this as their best build with a $2500 budget. What do you guys think? Anything from there about his ideas that I should use as my own? Dual 8800s, anyone? I like that screen he recommended for two reasons: 1) I was looking at it earlier and liked it and 2) It's a 22" for the price of a 20". However, does it have the specs I need as a gamer? He literally changed my entire system, more or less, but maybe we can learn from him.
Any input and otherwise is greatly appreciated. Just remember to be civil. Originally posted by: Netu
@Piuc2020: As always, thanks for the input! I completely agree with you regarding Vista. Right now it's just much smarter to with 32-bit.
What about the other things 8steve8 has said though, everyone? I would like other viewpoints as well.
Such as, is 4gigs of RAM necessary? Should I get this RAM?
Should I not get the audio card and instead just use onboard? If I do, which motherboard should I use? The Gigabyte motherboard I was recommended earlier really is top of the line...I don't see a reason to -not- get it.
More or less, can anyone be an arbiter to the situation? There are many issues and I am inclined to just take whatever is said as truth; even if I do my research, I still find current opinions of helpful people to be wiser than a magazine article, etc. ;-P
Also, I am willing to put more money into a monitor if necessary. It will indeed be my first real LCD that I have experienced, but that doesn't mean I want a lack of quality. ;-B I most definitely will go for higher quality benign the price.
One final issue: Is the Samsung hard drive truly better than what I have currently listed?
As always, any input is greatly appreciated. Check the first page or page 5 for the current list of my machine. I am willing to change a lot, if necessary.
Thanks again guys, and keep up the great discussion. :-D
P.S. BIG EDIT: Someone on another forum posted this as their best build with a $2500 budget. What do you guys think? Anything from there about his ideas that I should use as my own? Dual 8800s, anyone? I like that screen he recommended for two reasons: 1) I was looking at it earlier and liked it and 2) It's a 22" for the price of a 20". However, does it have the specs I need as a gamer? He literally changed my entire system, more or less, but maybe we can learn from him.
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@PurdueRy: Read and responded to. Thank you for that "essay" as it was so coined. ;-P That was a -lot- of information, but I really think that has cleared up a lot of issues.
My only current issues are my monitor and my motherboard. I would like a motherboard that will be good for a few years (i.e. it has SLI, enough PCI slots, etc., and can overclock). I know that's asking a lot, but it is what I need and I will pay the price to get it. ;-D
On the monitor issue: Man, trying to find a good monitor is like trying to take a poop while eating. It stinks and you aren't quite sure if what you're eating is actually good or not due to the smell... :-| I'm serious, too. One page says "ha1 guyz!1 G3t an AC3RLolololol0l111!" And then another is all: "Current reviews and case studies show that Dell is the leading brand of computer monitor to invest in." I stare at the screen thinking: "Right...so Dell it is." And then all the sudden, BAM!, another website, which has its own credentials, talks about how crappy it is! I think I will have to make another post elsewhere to get to the bottom of the monitor issue. However if anyone knows of a good monitor out right now, and perhaps has bought it recently and can give a short but sweet review, I'd really appreciate it.
And, just a favor I am asking for, if anyone is willing: Does anyone see some places I can trim down on the cost? I know I do -have- $2500 to spend, but like 8steve8 said, there is no need to just spend it all unquestioningly. If any one has heard of any deals, etc., regarding anything I'm considering purchasing, or knows of a better deal on another piece of similar equipment, then do tell.
Thanks for everyone's input. It's been hectic but I think conclusions are beginning to be drawn; from there a great machine is going to be built, I hope. >:-D
My only current issues are my monitor and my motherboard. I would like a motherboard that will be good for a few years (i.e. it has SLI, enough PCI slots, etc., and can overclock). I know that's asking a lot, but it is what I need and I will pay the price to get it. ;-D
On the monitor issue: Man, trying to find a good monitor is like trying to take a poop while eating. It stinks and you aren't quite sure if what you're eating is actually good or not due to the smell... :-| I'm serious, too. One page says "ha1 guyz!1 G3t an AC3RLolololol0l111!" And then another is all: "Current reviews and case studies show that Dell is the leading brand of computer monitor to invest in." I stare at the screen thinking: "Right...so Dell it is." And then all the sudden, BAM!, another website, which has its own credentials, talks about how crappy it is! I think I will have to make another post elsewhere to get to the bottom of the monitor issue. However if anyone knows of a good monitor out right now, and perhaps has bought it recently and can give a short but sweet review, I'd really appreciate it.
And, just a favor I am asking for, if anyone is willing: Does anyone see some places I can trim down on the cost? I know I do -have- $2500 to spend, but like 8steve8 said, there is no need to just spend it all unquestioningly. If any one has heard of any deals, etc., regarding anything I'm considering purchasing, or knows of a better deal on another piece of similar equipment, then do tell.
Thanks for everyone's input. It's been hectic but I think conclusions are beginning to be drawn; from there a great machine is going to be built, I hope. >:-D
Originally posted by: Netu
@PurdueRy: Read and responded to. Thank you for that "essay" as it was so coined. ;-P That was a -lot- of information, but I really think that has cleared up a lot of issues.
My only current issues are my monitor and my motherboard. I would like a motherboard that will be good for a few years (i.e. it has SLI, enough PCI slots, etc., and can overclock). I know that's asking a lot, but it is what I need and I will pay the price to get it. ;-D
On the monitor issue: Man, trying to find a good monitor is like trying to take a poop while eating. It stinks and you aren't quite sure if what you're eating is actually good or not due to the smell... :-| I'm serious, too. One page says "ha1 guyz!1 G3t an AC3RLolololol0l111!" And then another is all: "Current reviews and case studies show that Dell is the leading brand of computer monitor to invest in." I stare at the screen thinking: "Right...so Dell it is." And then all the sudden, BAM!, another website, which has its own credentials, talks about how crappy it is! I think I will have to make another post elsewhere to get to the bottom of the monitor issue. However if anyone knows of a good monitor out right now, and perhaps has bought it recently and can give a short but sweet review, I'd really appreciate it.
And, just a favor I am asking for, if anyone is willing: Does anyone see some places I can trim down on the cost? I know I do -have- $2500 to spend, but like 8steve8 said, there is no need to just spend it all unquestioningly. If any one has heard of any deals, etc., regarding anything I'm considering purchasing, or knows of a better deal on another piece of similar equipment, then do tell.
Thanks for everyone's input. It's been hectic but I think conclusions are beginning to be drawn; from there a great machine is going to be built, I hope. >:-D
I wouldn't worry about a board with SLI. That would mean going to an NVIDIA chipset and not the P35. SLI is generally regarded as a waste. The only time I would say SLI would be at least an option to consider is if you NEED performance beyond what a single card can offer right out of the gates. Most people that get SLI probably don't need it, its more for bragging rights.
If you wait to add another card. You will generally get more performance increase by replacing the one card you do have than adding another in SLI. Keep in mind SLI does not increase performance by 100%. It is actually typically between 50-60%. To make matters worse, games need SLI profiles. If they don't contain these you must make a custom profile which is even more of a pain in the butt.
My recommendation, save the money and invest in the best single card you can afford. If you get tired of it after a year or two, replace it with a new card instead of investing in a card that it out of date and most likely not a good value anymore.
@PurdueRy: Sounds perfect. I'll keep the P35, then. It's a good board, and it should be able to do everything I need - especially overclocking, if I ever get around to doing it. >:-D
Thanks, and if anyone knows of any good monitors, feel free to post. Also, I'm still all ears for some other tweaks and such regarding my build.
I'll keep the P35, then. It's a good board, and it should be able to do everything I need - especially overclocking, if I ever get around to doing it. >:-DThanks, and if anyone knows of any good monitors, feel free to post. Also, I'm still all ears for some other tweaks and such regarding my build.
If you want a really great monitor then the NEC 20WMGX2 is a great choice just be ware that it has a glossy panel (S-IPS, true 8-bit) that while overall makes colors pop and appear more saturated it reflects lights quite heavily so you might want to have this in mind if you decide for this. For most computer setups, a glossy screen is not a problem, except in office spaces. http://www.newegg.com/Product/...on=NEC+20WMGX2&x=0&y=0
Then again, you seem to be struggling to keep your computer at the $2500 mark, if you wish a more cost-conscious solution, the Acer AL2051W is a great choice as well, 8-bit panel and glossy screen, your media and games will look great on it and the price tag is much more accessible than the NEC, $209 with a $10 rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824009105
Well those are my two monitor recommendations, just make sure your enviroment is "glossy screen" safe (no light sources pointing STRAIGHT at the screen).
Then again, you seem to be struggling to keep your computer at the $2500 mark, if you wish a more cost-conscious solution, the Acer AL2051W is a great choice as well, 8-bit panel and glossy screen, your media and games will look great on it and the price tag is much more accessible than the NEC, $209 with a $10 rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824009105
Well those are my two monitor recommendations, just make sure your enviroment is "glossy screen" safe (no light sources pointing STRAIGHT at the screen).
@Piuc2020: If I could somehow afford the NEC monitor, I would get it; instead I am most definitely getting the Acer. Thanks a lot for showing me that great model. People really seem to like it. Also, it matches well with my case and keyboard, which is a plus. ;-P
Some recommended this for a power supply/fan. I am unsure, and don't even know if I should consider it. :-/ Also, it's expensive compared to what I have.
I think my power supply and cooling is A-OK. I don't know why people keep trying to change it. But I guess everyone has their opinions. ;-P But, it's silly to change it if it is good enough, and not add something that requires more cooling or power, no? If I were overclocking dual 8800s while using my motherboard to bake (which is all motherboards are good for, anyway), then it'd make sense. I think I answered my own question here, but I still enjoy input, just to make sure.
I think the only thing I have changed at this point is the monitor. I am getting the cheaper Acer screen. Other than that, all remains the same and I am just waiting to get the green light on my money. >
Thanks for the help, guys. Any and all input is still highly appreciated and well-taken.
Edit: I keep realizing more and more that sound system, while it is epic, beautiful, and amazing, is too much. I regretfully won't be using my sound system as much as my headset, and I have officially decided to tone down the speaker system to get a better headset. It's just going to have to be that way, regretfully. :-/ Maybe if I ever get an apartment on my own...but not this time around. ;-P
However it's literally a dollar for dollar exchange. For every 20 bucks that is dropped off the speaker system is just added to the headset. So maybe there is a nice medium... I'll update later if I find anything. Also, I -will- be throwing the new list here soon. If I'm not mistaken, all that has changed is the monitor, though.
People really seem to like it. Also, it matches well with my case and keyboard, which is a plus. ;-PSome recommended this for a power supply/fan. I am unsure, and don't even know if I should consider it. :-/ Also, it's expensive compared to what I have.
I think my power supply and cooling is A-OK. I don't know why people keep trying to change it. But I guess everyone has their opinions. ;-P But, it's silly to change it if it is good enough, and not add something that requires more cooling or power, no? If I were overclocking dual 8800s while using my motherboard to bake (which is all motherboards are good for, anyway), then it'd make sense. I think I answered my own question here, but I still enjoy input, just to make sure.
I think the only thing I have changed at this point is the monitor. I am getting the cheaper Acer screen. Other than that, all remains the same and I am just waiting to get the green light on my money. >
Thanks for the help, guys. Any and all input is still highly appreciated and well-taken.
Edit: I keep realizing more and more that sound system, while it is epic, beautiful, and amazing, is too much. I regretfully won't be using my sound system as much as my headset, and I have officially decided to tone down the speaker system to get a better headset. It's just going to have to be that way, regretfully. :-/ Maybe if I ever get an apartment on my own...but not this time around. ;-P
However it's literally a dollar for dollar exchange. For every 20 bucks that is dropped off the speaker system is just added to the headset. So maybe there is a nice medium... I'll update later if I find anything. Also, I -will- be throwing the new list here soon. If I'm not mistaken, all that has changed is the monitor, though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16836121121
http://www.abesofmaine.com/item.do?item=AKGK701
By my calculations it should come out $25 cheaper than the HD555+Z5500 combo. Enjoy
Keep the Claro Plus, It will be useful with the high quality headphones. The HT OMEGA CLARO Plus+ Differs from the HT OMEGA by upgrading the front Op Amps. This is where you will want your quality to really make the headphones shine. It also has front panel audio connectors on the sound card. So you'll be able to hook the Z5300e's up to the sound card directly and the headphones to the front sound ports on your case.
http://www.abesofmaine.com/item.do?item=AKGK701
By my calculations it should come out $25 cheaper than the HD555+Z5500 combo. Enjoy
Keep the Claro Plus, It will be useful with the high quality headphones. The HT OMEGA CLARO Plus+ Differs from the HT OMEGA by upgrading the front Op Amps. This is where you will want your quality to really make the headphones shine. It also has front panel audio connectors on the sound card. So you'll be able to hook the Z5300e's up to the sound card directly and the headphones to the front sound ports on your case.
Whoooa. :-o That's -nice-. I will most definitely keep the Claro Plus, I'd be silly if I didn't. Also, just -wow- at those headphones. I read some reviews, and they are like the 3rd best out that I have seen. That is, if you like Grados or not; I personally don't think I'd want Grados...so these K701's are like second best, if that logic is...logical. ;-P
Edit: Oh, how "open" are the K701s? I know they're "open back" but I haven't read how...loud they are to the outside world...and how loud the outside world is the to wearer.
I'm glad to hear about the set-up regarding the speakers, sound card, and headphones as well. That'll make for a nice set-up, indeed. I was wondering if I could even hook the headphones up to the amp on the speakers or something? Is that even possible? It'd be neat, I guess, to even try and get -more- power into those headphones...but I'd rather not blow my head off. D-:
Thanks again, PurdueRy. As I've always said: You know your audio. Thanks for it.
Also, just -wow- at those headphones. I read some reviews, and they are like the 3rd best out that I have seen. That is, if you like Grados or not; I personally don't think I'd want Grados...so these K701's are like second best, if that logic is...logical. ;-PEdit: Oh, how "open" are the K701s? I know they're "open back" but I haven't read how...loud they are to the outside world...and how loud the outside world is the to wearer.
I'm glad to hear about the set-up regarding the speakers, sound card, and headphones as well. That'll make for a nice set-up, indeed.
I was wondering if I could even hook the headphones up to the amp on the speakers or something? Is that even possible? It'd be neat, I guess, to even try and get -more- power into those headphones...but I'd rather not blow my head off. D-:Thanks again, PurdueRy. As I've always said: You know your audio.
Thanks for it.The New Netu's Cube:
Total: $2480.84
Total After Rebates: $2368.34
So, how's it look? I love it. I think this machine is near perfection, if that is at all possible.
However, I'd love for someone to come and kick me in the throat so I spit up all this perfection... Other ideas and such are always welcome. Heavy critics, too. ;-)
Thanks again everyone who has helped me get to this point. Just a few more days and I dare say I'll start hitting the "Order" buttons and spreading my personal information across the internet like a bad case of herpes in a college dormitory.
Do take care, and thanks again.
EDIT: For some reason some of the links aren't working. Very disappointing. I'll fix it later.
Total: $2480.84
Total After Rebates: $2368.34
So, how's it look?
I love it. I think this machine is near perfection, if that is at all possible.However, I'd love for someone to come and kick me in the throat so I spit up all this perfection... Other ideas and such are always welcome. Heavy critics, too. ;-)
Thanks again everyone who has helped me get to this point. Just a few more days and I dare say I'll start hitting the "Order" buttons and spreading my personal information across the internet like a bad case of herpes in a college dormitory.
Do take care, and thanks again.
EDIT: For some reason some of the links aren't working. Very disappointing. I'll fix it later.
Originally posted by: Netu
Whoooa. :-o That's -nice-. I will most definitely keep the Claro Plus, I'd be silly if I didn't.
Edit: Oh, how "open" are the K701s? I know they're "open back" but I haven't read how...loud they are to the outside world...and how loud the outside world is the to wearer.
I'm glad to hear about the set-up regarding the speakers, sound card, and headphones as well. That'll make for a nice set-up, indeed.
Thanks again, PurdueRy. As I've always said: You know your audio.
Yes you will also be able to connect to the headphone jack on the "wired remote" that comes with the speakers.
As for how open they are, you'll be able to easily hear people talking to you when there is no music playing. As for what they will be able to hear. That depends how loud you are listening. But for a decent example think of how music sounds through headphones if it is playing loud and they are sitting on a desk near you. That's about it.
Ah, that's a real shame on their openness, but at least that is better than if I were listening to my sound system. I'm sure my roommate won't have issues...if he does, I'll just force him to buy me some better, closed, ones. >
Thanks again, PurdueRy.
EDIT: Physics cards. Hm. :-| I didn't even consider one when I was building this machine... I wonder...
Thanks again, PurdueRy.
EDIT: Physics cards. Hm. :-| I didn't even consider one when I was building this machine... I wonder...
Originally posted by: Netu
Ah, that's a real shame on their openness, but at least that is better than if I were listening to my sound system. I'm sure my roommate won't have issues...if he does, I'll just force him to buy me some better, closed, ones. >
Thanks again, PurdueRy.
EDIT: Physics cards. Hm. :-| I didn't even consider one when I was building this machine... I wonder...
Don't bother, VERY few games have yet to support them. I would rather see someone get SLI than a physics card and you know how I feel about SLI
I had the HD555's when I was in college which as you know are open. I used them when my roommate was sleeping I just kept them fairly quiet. He never raised issues but different people raise issue to different levels of noise. Hopefully you'll get a good roommate!
Luckily I already know the guy I am rooming with. If he complains I can just rip out his throat...no complaining if there's no voice box!
Sorry, that was violent. :-|
I still am 50/50 about getting a motherboard with SLI. It just seems to be "safer" if I just grabbed one with SLI just in case I ever plan to use it. I mean, maybe the 9800 series will be good to slap beside my 8800 (even though I think there are issues that arise from having two different cards...but meh).
I guess I am also still rather 50/50 about whether or not to get a 22" monitor. Acer has a very similar 22" screen to what I was recommended. I figure I can't wrong either way, it's just price. Decisions, decisions. 20" is big enough, really...but the bigger the better. :-D
Anyway, alright then about the physics card. I guess Crysis and all those uber leet games just aren't important enough for it. ;-) Sorry, sorry. I was looking at physics cards anyway, and they are just waaaay too expensive right now. Still sitting around the same price as that amazing sound card of mine for the earlier physics cards. That's just silly, if you ask me.
Oh well. I guess now all I do is wait until I get the money or until someone else comes up with some ideas or tweaks, which are most definitely welcome.
Sorry, that was violent. :-|
I still am 50/50 about getting a motherboard with SLI. It just seems to be "safer" if I just grabbed one with SLI just in case I ever plan to use it.
I mean, maybe the 9800 series will be good to slap beside my 8800 (even though I think there are issues that arise from having two different cards...but meh).I guess I am also still rather 50/50 about whether or not to get a 22" monitor.
Acer has a very similar 22" screen to what I was recommended. I figure I can't wrong either way, it's just price. Decisions, decisions. 20" is big enough, really...but the bigger the better. :-DAnyway, alright then about the physics card. I guess Crysis and all those uber leet games just aren't important enough for it. ;-) Sorry, sorry. I was looking at physics cards anyway, and they are just waaaay too expensive right now. Still sitting around the same price as that amazing sound card of mine for the earlier physics cards. That's just silly, if you ask me.
Oh well. I guess now all I do is wait until I get the money or until someone else comes up with some ideas or tweaks, which are most definitely welcome.
Originally posted by: Netu
Luckily I already know the guy I am rooming with. If he complains I can just rip out his throat...no complaining if there's no voice box!
Sorry, that was violent. :-|
I still am 50/50 about getting a motherboard with SLI. It just seems to be "safer" if I just grabbed one with SLI just in case I ever plan to use it.
I guess I am also still rather 50/50 about whether or not to get a 22" monitor.
Anyway, alright then about the physics card. I guess Crysis and all those uber leet games just aren't important enough for it. ;-) Sorry, sorry. I was looking at physics cards anyway, and they are just waaaay too expensive right now. Still sitting around the same price as that amazing sound card of mine for the earlier physics cards. That's just silly, if you ask me.
Oh well. I guess now all I do is wait until I get the money or until someone else comes up with some ideas or tweaks, which are most definitely welcome.
While Crysis might benefit from a physics card, the physics improvements are also a result of DX10.
About SLI, I am afraid you are a bit mistaken. You HAVE to use two of the same series cards together. So when the 9800 came out you would have to buy another 8800GTX 768MB card. You could not buy the 9800 and still use them in SLI.
Dah, I figured that. SLI is silly.
Yeah, and I will have DX10. *cheers* I just hope that, you know, it's not too bad. If I ~need~ a physics card I can always buy one sometime.
Yeah, and I will have DX10. *cheers* I just hope that, you know, it's not too bad. If I ~need~ a physics card I can always buy one sometime.
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